How much physical bullying do you legally have to accept?

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FCBlitz
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I still can not gauge what I am allowed to do to deter an aggressive antagonist if I am in a blue state, blue city and the local police only enforce what the ruling politicians desire.

Saw a video clip of a Trump supporter carrying a flag , being hounded by a pack of Antifa types. This group were in his safe space, they closed the gap whenever he stepped away, they used megaphones and were screaming in the mans face…..and the cops do not intervene.

In the work place, I have to wear ear plugs, and eye protection or my employer is held accountable for any preventable injuries that may occurs. Safety demands that all threats be mitigated and if not……accountability comes next. My point is…..if the govt is trying apply a low threshold for employees health and protection…..why is it those same threats in open public do not receive the same level of concern, enforcement and prosecutions as the work place.

Why is it that folks who are in a space they have legal rights to be, showing support for a cause and being civil and we can constantly see on videos showing them being threatened by antagonists who will not stop. In fact the escalate by putting loud devices close to their ears to disrupt/harm hearing and further creates situations where one could get injuries to one eyes.

I mention all this because the moment you legally defend yourself you are the one who suffers the consequences….not the antagonist. At some point you should be able to strike back and defend yourself.




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A lot. Shouldn't be that way but it is.
pdc093
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If you're THIS GUY?
NONE.....
*NSFW* rap lyrics
CanyonAg77
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He was being assaulted, he had a right to respond.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I feel like his response was reasonable for the most part. He may have scooted across the line a little but I'll allow it.
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Best part was at the end. The guy in the red jacket with long hair takes off his gloves and walks up like he's about to kick some a**. One pop and the dude falls flat. Knockout.
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Thats the dude he put down initially. Not that red jacket had any brain cells but getting knocked out 2x in 34 seconds cant be good for your brain.
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pdc093 said:

If you're THIS GUY?
NONE.....
*NSFW* rap lyrics


This is not the entire video from the first part. He had a megaphone with an ear-piercing sound shoved in his ear repeatedly for a good while before reacting.

He did react to the one doing it to him, then the others wanted to get a piece of him and they did. His fist, repeatedly.

The Hat Trick, by Kyle Fistenhouse.
"Green" is the new RED.
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2004FIGHTINTXAG said:

Best part was at the end. The guy in the red jacket with long hair takes off his gloves and walks up like he's about to kick some a**. One pop and the dude falls flat. Knockout.


Pretty sure he was knocked out first already. Got up for another beating. That's a tough competitor.
Concerned Moderate Ag
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Don't see anything wrong with that. Really I'm kind of embarrassed for everyone that got knocked out after, say, the second guy.
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Sounds like Cliff Clavin at the very end
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I feel like his response was reasonable for the most part. He may have scooted across the line a little but I'll allow it.


Not across the line at all. He was being assaulted, constantly retreated, yet they kept coming. Even after the first punch in defense. He was well within his rights to escalate his response until they stopped
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Got planked
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2004FIGHTINTXAG said:

Best part was at the end. The guy in the red jacket with long hair takes off his gloves and walks up like he's about to kick some a**. One pop and the dude falls flat. Knockout.

He definitely was not "woke".

That dude went down for the count on that single punch.
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The answer to your question probably depends on which state you live in, and whether the judge, jury, and prosecutor are leftist ideologues or not.
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96AgGrad said:

The answer to your question probably depends on which state you live in, and whether the judge, jury, and prosecutor are leftist ideologues or not.


This response helps me with what I wanted to asks. From a general sense, setting the stage for everything that you said….like Derek Chauvin. If some guy seeks you out, poked you within inches of your face, slaps a phone out your hand, light off a fog horn near your ears and is relentless in doing so……and no one is coming to your aid causes you to defend yourself, I would assumed laws on the books would say I would be able to defend myself.

Let's elevate this one more level. If as in Portland. You call for help to the PPD and they just stand there and do not intervene forcing you to shoot and kill the antagonist that laws would protect to from leftist judges, cops, DA's and politicians when the correct application of laws are not followed.

Now I am thinking of Rittenhouse who was running for his life and the group of antagonists were intent on beating him to death.
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FCBlitz said:

96AgGrad said:

The answer to your question probably depends on which state you live in, and whether the judge, jury, and prosecutor are leftist ideologues or not.


This response helps me with what I wanted to asks. From a general sense, setting the stage for everything that you said….like Derek Chauvin. If some guy seeks you out, poked you within inches of your face, slaps a phone out your hand, light off a fog horn near your ears and is relentless in doing so……and no one is coming to your aid causes you to defend yourself, I would assumed laws on the books would say I would be able to defend myself.

Let's elevate this one more level. If as in Portland. You call for help to the PPD and they just stand there and do not intervene forcing you to shoot and kill the antagonist that laws would protect to from leftist judges, cops, DA's and politicians when the correct application of laws are not followed.

Now I am thinking of Rittenhouse who was running for his life and the group of antagonists were intent on beating him to death.


Best hope if you feel you are ever in a situation where you have to defend yourself that it is thoroughly videoed if you take action, especially with lethal force, depending on the state. It's unfortunate really, but it's the safest bet the way the laws work now..

Kyle Rittenhouse probably wouldn't be free today without the video evidence clearly showing self defense. None of the eye witnesses really mattered in that trial, it was all he said, she said. They wanted to railroad him, but the video evidence made it impossible, and the prosecution seemed like they knew they didn't have a case but were being forced to try and convict him for political reasons.
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The left is going to make up the rules as they go. Depends on sentiment, race, gender, what's in the news, etc. It's thunderdome and the left set the rules.
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Boom! Out go the lights...

Warms the heart to watch red jacket commie go down like a sack of taters.

Still fun to watch after a dozen views.
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Brother got cinderblocks in his gloves DAMN
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AggieRain said:

2004FIGHTINTXAG said:

Best part was at the end. The guy in the red jacket with long hair takes off his gloves and walks up like he's about to kick some a**. One pop and the dude falls flat. Knockout.


Pretty sure he was knocked out first already. Got up for another beating. That's a tough competitor.


If you're going be dumb, you gotta be tough.
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13 times and the Southpaw is still kicking butt.

Man, he drops his hips, rears back like he's stepping up to the tee on a par 5 and red coat says "Hi, here's my chin..." Beautiful.

When his go fund me for defense comes out someone please post it.
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2004FIGHTINTXAG said:

Best part was at the end. The guy in the red jacket with long hair takes off his gloves and walks up like he's about to kick some a**. One pop and the dude falls flat. Knockout.


Failed gif attempted
A Net Full of Jello
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I have so much second-hand embarrassment for all the people who responded to this beatdown by aggressively blowing their rape whistles.
Captain Pablo
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Uma Thurman vs. the Crazy 88s
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Gilligan said:

13 times and the Southpaw is still kicking butt.

Man, he drops his hips, rears back like he's stepping up to the tee on a par 5 and red coat says "Hi, here's my chin..." Beautiful.

When his go fund me for defense comes out someone please post it.


He has a black belt in Taekwondon't.
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I hope the guy in the class a dress coat is not really a military guy. Weakest punch I've ever seen in my life. Looked liked he was in a cat fight. It's in a longer video I saw on X.
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96AgGrad said:

The answer to your question probably depends on which state you live in, and whether the judge, jury, and prosecutor are leftist ideologues or not.

This,

No matter what happens to oneself, in a blue city or state, if you are a conservative, you are considered evil and a fascist and will be railroaded into jail and become a political prisoner.
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Better to sit in the principal's (councilor, police etc.) office once, then live in fear daily.
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2004FIGHTINTXAG said:

Best part was at the end. The guy in the red jacket with long hair takes off his gloves and walks up like he's about to kick some a**. One pop and the dude falls flat. Knockout.


Second best was him putting his hat BACK on in the middle of the brawl.
Touchless
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Slightly longer version, but ends at the same time. Just shows a little more leading up to it.

aggielax48
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Those guys got exactly what they deserved but I'm concerned for him legally due to the timing of his first punch. He didn't appear to be in any imminent danger, the guy was bending over, can't quite tell why. Great timing to land the haymaker, but legally I question whether he has a right to self defense at that moment. I'm also curious after he retreated, is everything after that considered self defense or if the initial punch makes everything else assault (assuming the first punch is considered).

I'm guessing he's screwed in Minnesota.
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pdc093 said:

If you're THIS GUY?
NONE.....
*NSFW* rap lyrics



Man that dude in the red at the end of the video thought he wanted some. Popped them gloves off and got invited to take a nap.

Awesome.
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love it. wish every American could defend themselves like that patriot.
Praise the Lord and gig'em
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CanyonAg77 said:

He was being assaulted, he had a right to respond.

100%. There is no question that legally fits the definition of both a civil and criminal assault, and he was entitled to retaliate.

Unfortunately he lives in a leftist state, so there are no guarantees he won't be prosecuted and imprisoned anyway. Move to a red state.
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