How much physical bullying do you legally have to accept?

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Nagler said:

pdc093 said:

If you're THIS GUY?
NONE.....
*NSFW* rap lyrics



Man that dude in the red at the end of the video thought he wanted some. Popped them gloves off and got invited to take a nap.

Awesome.


It's the same dude harassing him at the beginning of the video. Fighting starts with him getting doubled over with a gut punch and and when he recovers enough to get back in it goodnight.
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pdc093 said:

If you're THIS GUY?
NONE.....
*NSFW* rap lyrics


That is some good wholesome family entertainment!!!!
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aggielax48 said:

Those guys got exactly what they deserved but I'm concerned for him legally due to the timing of his first punch. He didn't appear to be in any imminent danger, the guy was bending over, can't quite tell why. Great timing to land the haymaker, but legally I question whether he has a right to self defense at that moment. I'm also curious after he retreated, is everything after that considered self defense or if the initial punch makes everything else assault (assuming the first punch is considered).

I'm guessing he's screwed in Minnesota.

Not sure how the law defines it, but he was under assault for nearly all of the time leading up to the first punch. Continued audible assault right at your ear can easily do permanent damage, and arguably is more dangerous than "physical" assault.

Surely, if placing your hand on someone can be considered assault, an extremely high decibel emitting device held right at your eardrum is more than an irritant. It's a weapon.
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aggielax48 said:

Those guys got exactly what they deserved but I'm concerned for him legally due to the timing of his first punch. He didn't appear to be in any imminent danger, the guy was bending over, can't quite tell why. Great timing to land the haymaker, but legally I question whether he has a right to self defense at that moment. I'm also curious after he retreated, is everything after that considered self defense or if the initial punch makes everything else assault (assuming the first punch is considered).

I'm guessing he's screwed in Minnesota.

When adding it all up it seems easily justified as self defense, even in deep blue Minnesota.
The minute or so before the first punch he was constantly assaulted while he tried to retreat multiple times.
First punch in self-defense timing was awkward. Had the whole ordeal ended there, he might be s.o.l. due to the bad timing.
But,
The next minute or two after the first punch the instigator pursued and attacked him again, while he was constantly retreating.
Several others in the crowd also attacked him, while he was retreating.

Thus in my opinion showed that he knew retreating pre-punch didn't work and would not continue working hence needing to act to protect himself.
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I saw that video...about 10 times. The old man finally lost it and he laid the wood down on many of those guys. It was hilarious to watch. Don't know how much you have to take before you react, but he did a pretty good job of keeping his powder dry for longer than what I would have.
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If you shout "Get away from me!" , make a physical effort to move away from the situation to de-escalate, and the person chooses to still follow and harass you, to my thinking they clearly become the aggressor.
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aggielax48 said:

Those guys got exactly what they deserved but I'm concerned for him legally due to the timing of his first punch. He didn't appear to be in any imminent danger, the guy was bending over, can't quite tell why. Great timing to land the haymaker, but legally I question whether he has a right to self defense at that moment. I'm also curious after he retreated, is everything after that considered self defense or if the initial punch makes everything else assault (assuming the first punch is considered).

I'm guessing he's screwed in Minnesota.

The guy being followed around/harassed dropped his own air horn. The guy harassing him bent over to pick it up even though it wasn't his. So the old guy hit him. Assumingly, to keep his air horn from being stolen/destroyed and also to stop the guy in red from harassing him further.
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Depends what your political affiliation is.

If you are woke, words are violence.

If you aren't, you have to let a car run over you.
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Love the guy in the red jacket!
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He's going into the hall of fame with this cool cat:

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Here's the thing...If it were the other way around and the good guy was on the ground - the bad guys would be foot stomping his head into the concrete.
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aggielax48 said:

Those guys got exactly what they deserved but I'm concerned for him legally due to the timing of his first punch. He didn't appear to be in any imminent danger, the guy was bending over, can't quite tell why. Great timing to land the haymaker, but legally I question whether he has a right to self defense at that moment. I'm also curious after he retreated, is everything after that considered self defense or if the initial punch makes everything else assault (assuming the first punch is considered).

I'm guessing he's screwed in Minnesota.

The first punch against the domestic terrorist Democrat that was blaring a high decibel bullhorn in his ear, potentially causing permanent hearing damage?

I believe the guy passing out knuckle sandwiches will be fine legally, I would pursue assault charges on all of the domestic terrorists if I were him.
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torrid said:

If you shout "Get away from me!" , make a physical effort to move away from the situation to de-escalate, and the person chooses to still follow and harass you, to my thinking they clearly become the aggressor.

This sums up my feelings on the matter. I aint a lawyer but blaring a bullhorn siren in my ear after I ask you to stop and try to move away is going to get a response.
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ord89 said:

torrid said:

If you shout "Get away from me!" , make a physical effort to move away from the situation to de-escalate, and the person chooses to still follow and harass you, to my thinking they clearly become the aggressor.

This sums up my feelings on the matter. I aint a lawyer but blaring a bullhorn siren in my ear after I ask you to stop and try to move away is going to get a response.

He was trying to avoid a noxious assault. Twerp keeps following him an attacking again. As I have said before, each time he tried to get away and the twerp kept following him is a separate count of assault.
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You gotta love it. That twerp got what he deserved. Something his dad should have taught him.
Were other MAGA across the street? I believe if I was there I would of helped him out.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I feel like his response was reasonable for the most part. He may have scooted across the line a little but I'll allow it.

How did he "scoot across the line a little bit"
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The red jacket guy, who was knocked flat twice, was obviously the aggressor. The older guy (with the deadly left fist, lol) tried repeatedly to retreat.

Red jacket guy was your typical beta male and must not have ever been in a fight. Lefty telegraphed his punches, reached all the way back to yesterday before starting the swing, and caught red jacket guy flush both times. I hope the guy lost several teeth. It was heartwarming to watch. That's the way things were settled back in the too distant past.
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Chevy.Art said:

You gotta love it. That twerp got what he deserved. Something his dad should have taught him.
Were other MAGA across the street? I believe if I was there I would have helped him out.


Not kidding, it makes me want to go up there for a fun weekend trip.
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Could you sue city's like Portland & Minnesota if you got hurt because the police department made a decision not to help?
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Just coming back around to see if Fistenhouse, the Sequel is showing up? And if glove throwing red-coat has found the ability to upright zhe self.
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Do we have any more of the video? He was still waiting on one guy when it ended.
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FCBlitz said:

I still can not gauge what I am allowed to do to deter an aggressive antagonist if I am in a blue state, blue city and the local police only enforce what the ruling politicians desire.

Saw a video clip of a Trump supporter carrying a flag , being hounded by a pack of Antifa types. This group were in his safe space, they closed the gap whenever he stepped away, they used megaphones and were screaming in the mans face…..and the cops do not intervene.

In the work place, I have to wear ear plugs, and eye protection or my employer is held accountable for any preventable injuries that may occurs. Safety demands that all threats be mitigated and if not……accountability comes next. My point is…..if the govt is trying apply a low threshold for employees health and protection…..why is it those same threats in open public do not receive the same level of concern, enforcement and prosecutions as the work place.

Why is it that folks who are in a space they have legal rights to be, showing support for a cause and being civil and we can constantly see on videos showing them being threatened by antagonists who will not stop. In fact the escalate by putting loud devices close to their ears to disrupt/harm hearing and further creates situations where one could get injuries to one eyes.

I mention all this because the moment you legally defend yourself you are the one who suffers the consequences….not the antagonist. At some point you should be able to strike back and defend yourself.






If that is a real concern where I live, I move. Simple.
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Survival must always outweigh legal implicationsI agree completely. It's helpful that you have a strong grasp of safety principles. Let's return to the bedrock of hazard mitigation: the Hierarchy of Controls. When a hazard is identified, the most effective solution, without question, is total elimination.
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