Is there more to the massive growth of the Indian population in Frisco?

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Some are saying yes.

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as a former
resident of frisco texas from 2004 until 2022 i am so glad to be gone. was a good run but country living is way better
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CLEARLY there is some vast organized effort by SOME GROUP to bring in tens of thousands of Indians to Allen and Frisco and Plano Texas.

I mean come on, out of 1 billion Indians how many of them have EVER heard of Frisco, Texas before!??!

and suddenly within a few years there are tens of thousands of them running around
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Don't tell them about Sugar Land.
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LMCane said:

CLEARLY there is some vast organized effort by SOME GROUP to bring in tens of thousands of Indians to Allen and Frisco and Plano Texas.

I mean come on, out of 1 billion Indians how many of them have EVER heard of Frisco, Texas before!??!

and suddenly within a few years there are tens of thousands of them running around

There are tons and tons of tech jobs in DFW, tons and tons of H-1Bs being handed out. Do you think they want to live in Garland, Richardson, or Irving???
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Richardson and Plano are pretty much the same place. They'd probably be an improvement to Garland.
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There is large scale scamming of all the various visa systems.
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Slicer97 said:

Richardson and Plano are pretty much the same place. They'd probably be an improvement to Garland.


Agree but I believe I heard that Frisco has the largest number of Indians per capita than any city in Texas.

I work in Tech and always ask our customers and partners who are Indian where they live. If it's not Frisco, it's usually somewhere close like Prosper, McKinney or Little Elm.
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No problem as long as there is assimilation for those seeking permanent residency or citizenship. My concern is the caste system and nepotism are very strongly culturally embedded in most of India and I wonder if that is moving over to enclaves in the USA. It would be viewed as corruption and bigotry here and isn't very compatible with a more traditional American value system.
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I lived in Flower Mound for 23 years and saw the Indian population rapidly grow there too. And they didn't seem to be lower class. I moved away in 2022 so don't know how it's going now but they were taking over sections of the town. I sure got tired of seeing the old guy in my neighborhood walking every day in a short white wrap with his butt hanging out.
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CDUB98 said:

There is large scale scamming of all the various visa systems.


At the expense of American workers. Too many of these situations are full of people who are not "unique"
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Texas is the H1B capital of America.

I have been yelling about it for months. Many people don't care as long as their 401ks are full.
Enjoy!
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TAMU1990 said:

CDUB98 said:

There is large scale scamming of all the various visa systems.


At the expense of American workers. Too many of these situations are full of people who are not "unique"


but but but our CEOs told us that we don't have the required skillset in America which is why we need to invite geniuses from other countries in... geniuses! (as per Kevin).

Kevin O Leary (the Canadian) wants US to give Indians 100k to come HERE and stay.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6379928075112
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MouthBQ98 said:

No problem as long as there is assimilation for those seeking permanent residency or citizenship. My concern is the caste system and nepotism are very strongly culturally embedded in most of India and I wonder if that is moving over to enclaves in the USA. It would be viewed as corruption and bigotry here and isn't very compatible with a more traditional American value system.

My experience in my industry has shown that the caste system remains as an undercurrent. It probably is not as front and center since it's engineering and not tech, so fewer Indians overall, but just various comments and interactions over the years.

Now, one guy I worked with, well, he was just an arrogant **** who thought Americans were dumb and complained how Westernized his children were becoming. He was the main contributing factor that caused me to leave that place after only a year.
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On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.

However, I suspect they run illegal shops on visas. Like for example one person has 25 registered companies at the same address and they work from home for multiple companies etc etc. There are some illegalities there.

I saw something on twitter yesterday where the government is now working on checking these areas to kick out illegal activities. Stay tuned.
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MouthBQ98 said:

No problem as long as there is assimilation for those seeking permanent residency or citizenship. My concern is the caste system and nepotism are very strongly culturally embedded in most of India and I wonder if that is moving over to enclaves in the USA. It would be viewed as corruption and bigotry here and isn't very compatible with a more traditional American value system.

And that's the rub for me as well. I live in Southlake and we're starting to see a rise in the Indian population as well. My next door neighbors are Indians, they still celebrate their culture but they also play baseball, take care of their yard and are genuinely good people. Then there's a family a few houses down who has three generations of family living in the same house, park their cars in the street, don't mow the yard and jack up our property taxes because they combine everyone's income to buy one single family house.

I know there's definitely white people who are trash but there's also a lot of Americans (white, brown, black etc) who are getting priced out of single family homes because they can't compete against 4 income households. Not to mention the H1b's that are taking jobs.
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Sara Gonzales.

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infinity ag said:

On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.

However, I suspect they run illegal shops on visas. Like for example one person has 25 registered companies at the same address and they work from home for multiple companies etc etc. There are some illegalities there.

I saw something on twitter yesterday where the government is now working on checking these areas to kick out illegal activities. Stay tuned.


H1B visa holders aren't citizens. Just because they are legally here doesn't mean they can't get sent back home.
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TAMU1990 said:

infinity ag said:

On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.

However, I suspect they run illegal shops on visas. Like for example one person has 25 registered companies at the same address and they work from home for multiple companies etc etc. There are some illegalities there.

I saw something on twitter yesterday where the government is now working on checking these areas to kick out illegal activities. Stay tuned.


H1B visa holders aren't citizens. Just because they are legally here doesn't mean they can't get sent back home.


You are right.

But many are Green card holders and naturalized US citizens. You cannot kick them out very easily like you can do with H1Bs. Green card holders status can be revoked based on some conditions I am told (I am not very clear what they are). I don't think a US citizenship can be revoked (maybe some obscure conditions exist).


Don't assume these guys in Frisco are all H1Bs. Many are GC/USC teamed with H1Bs running their operations.
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infinity ag said:

On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.


They can all be kicked out with the stroke of a pen. A piece of paper doesn't make you American.
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Also note that for every one H1-B, there are multiples more that are then brought over on an H-4 for family members.

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Colonel Kurtz said:

infinity ag said:

On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.


They can all be kicked out with the stroke of a pen. A piece of paper doesn't make you American.

Guess the law doesn't matter to you. This country is not a dictatorship despite what you'd like it to be.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

infinity ag said:

On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.


They can all be kicked out with the stroke of a pen. A piece of paper doesn't make you American.


Are you sure?

I don't think you can kick out a naturalized American citizen. Green cards, I am sure there are clauses for crime etc as they are not citizens yet.

PS: I misspoke above. I meant to say if they are legal immigrants (H1Bs or GC), you can push them out but for valid reasons. Naturalized US Citizens I don't think you can for any reason.
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From what I have seen, the newest Indian immigrants tend to follow previous waves into the same communities. They leverage common language and culture, have restaurants that serve food from home, etc. I watched it in Sugar Land when I lived in Rosenberg, and in Leander when I lived there.

In some ways, it's not a whole lot different from Chinatown or Little Italy, historically. It becomes a problem if the new immigrants don't assimilate to American cultural norms and values. Instead of helping facilitate the transition, those insular communities can make it easier to stay separate from American culture.
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maverick2076 said:

From what I have seen, the newest Indian immigrants tend to follow previous waves into the same communities. They leverage common language and culture, have restaurants that serve food from home, etc. I watched it in Sugar Land when I lived in Rosenberg, and in Leander when I lived there.

In some ways, it's not a whole lot different from Chinatown or Little Italy, historically. It becomes a problem if the new immigrants don't assimilate to American cultural norms and values. Instead of helping facilitate the transition, those insular communities can make it easier to stay separate from American culture.


Any group when they come here in LARGE waves don't find the need to put in the effort to assimilate. It takes time and energy to do so. Why bother?

In the 60s, the Indians assimilated as they were in small numbers. Now? They don't as they don't need to. There are little Indias in every neighborhood.
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I went skiing Monday. I withheld from tweeting my observations at the time but here it goes. Skiing was the last place where you could enjoy what would be considered classic white Americana. The prices were always ridiculously high but that tended to keep the riff raff out. What I experienced was extremely depressing. The mountain was overrun with Indian immigrants. I don't really care that they were Indian except they had no etiquette whatsoever. Every time I got on line for the lift they would try getting under the rope to cut the line. I almost had a fist fight with one who pushed my daughter while trying to do it. These people were rude and have no concept of courtesy. None of them know how to ski and it ruined my day. I've never felt like we've lost our country like I did on Monday.

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LOL, his first mistake was going to Breckenridge.
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TAMU1990 said:

infinity ag said:

On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.

However, I suspect they run illegal shops on visas. Like for example one person has 25 registered companies at the same address and they work from home for multiple companies etc etc. There are some illegalities there.

I saw something on twitter yesterday where the government is now working on checking these areas to kick out illegal activities. Stay tuned.


H1B visa holders aren't citizens. Just because they are legally here doesn't mean they can't get sent back home.


Yes, I misspoke and got 2 trains of thought mixed up.


H1Bs are legal but they can be sent back as we don't need them anymore.
Green Cards cannot be sent back unless they do something really bad like murder or something.

Naturalized US citizens, cannot be sent back as there is no "back" anymore.
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infinity ag said:

On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.

However, I suspect they run illegal shops on visas. Like for example one person has 25 registered companies at the same address and they work from home for multiple companies etc etc. There are some illegalities there.

I saw something on twitter yesterday where the government is now working on checking these areas to kick out illegal activities. Stay tuned.


Legal immigrants are not citizens, they can easily be kicked out especially if it's found they are committing fraud or immigration fraud, which an enormous amount of them are.
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infinity ag said:

Texas is the H1B capital of America.

I have been yelling about it for months. Many people don't care as long as their 401ks are full.
Enjoy!


Or, for the politicians who are in office when this has been happening, so long as their donations keep coming in.

Now to see those upset about the indians go after every politician from Abbott down to the local ones for not doing anything to stop this while they've been in office.

It's easy to be upset at the indians, but it takes real cajones to be upset at the ones bringing them here or making it easy for them to get here.

If only Texas was a red state. Oh, wait.
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StandUpforAmerica said:




I personally dgaf. But if the shoe was on the other foot, we'd be having a dreaded national discussion on cultural appropriation.
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No Spin Ag said:

infinity ag said:

Texas is the H1B capital of America.

I have been yelling about it for months. Many people don't care as long as their 401ks are full.
Enjoy!


Or, for the politicians who are in office when this has been happening, so long as their donations keep coming in.

Now to see those upset about the indians go after every politician from Abbott down to the local ones for not doing anything to stop this while they've been in office.

It's easy to be upset at the indians, but it takes real cajones to be upset at the ones bringing them here or making it easy for them to get here.

If only Texas was a red state. Oh, wait.


We dump on Indians but it is not Indians who are the real culprits. We foolishly opened our front door, so all kinds of homeless and squatters walked in and made themselves comfortable on our couch and bed.

Real culprits are:
1. US Politicians
2. US CEOs

The problem lies within us.

Even between 1 and 2, the fault lies with the politician more than the CEO. The politician has sold himself out and does not have America's long term interest at heart. CEO just does his thing for his company, he may be doing a bad job but that should not affect the country. We are in deep sheet because of US politicians.

Trump alone can fix this.
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Slicer97 said:

Richardson and Plano are pretty much the same place. They'd probably be an improvement to Garland.

If you want to find schools that aren't breaking up gang fights or have the top 10% dominated by Asian immigrants, try schools on the west side of Richardson. I think the 1960s housing stock is like kryptonite to the h1b crowd.
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Interesting statistic that just showed up. I cannot verify the validity of this. Richard Ray from Fox 4 posted it.
 
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