The Indian/SE Asian population growth in the greater Katy area in the last few years has been wild to watch. Like a tidal wave surging north from Sugar Land

Frisco Independence High School JROTC on parade.

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It's just about been the death of football at a lot of Frisco ISD schools. All the schools on the east end of the district are struggling even to field a team.

Independence High School
Students: 1,698
0-10

Liberty High School (only win was Independence)
Students: 1,798
1-9

Heritage High School (2 out of district wins)
Students: 1,996
2-8

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Lonestar, Reedy, and 2 or 3 others still do well.

Reedy has some of the worst coaches and fans, behavior wise.

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And Lonestar won a state title. Sad

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Don't tell them about Sugar Land.

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You should see Cedar Park and others North of Austin proper..

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LOL. Did they suddenly discover porcelain thrones?

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No, they had a marketing campaign for it. This is a video launched by UNICEF in 2015

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Texas is the H1B capital of America.

I have been yelling about it for months. Many people don't care as long as their 401ks are full.
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It's everywhere that there are a lot of Tech jobs.

My company's HG is in Las Colinas might as well be little Mumbai.

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On a serious note. If they are legal immigrants, you cannot kick them out. You let them in, legalized them, so they are here to stay.

However, I suspect they run illegal shops on visas. Like for example one person has 25 registered companies at the same address and they work from home for multiple companies etc etc. There are some illegalities there.

I saw something on twitter yesterday where the government is now working on checking these areas to kick out illegal activities. Stay tuned.

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Legal immigrants are not citizens, they can easily be kicked out especially if it's found they are committing fraud or immigration fraud, which an enormous amount of them are.

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Legal immigrants can be on:
Visas (H1, H4, F1 etc)
Green Card
Naturalized US Citizens

Your Visa can obviously be revoked - its the easiest.

Green cards can also be revoked, for example at your port of entry if you are out of the country for > 6 months. There are specific laws around that.

Naturalized US Citizens - If there are ways for this to be revoked, then its for very rare cases.
Also, for Indians, getting naturalized is about 10-15 year process, at minimum.

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My old neighborhood in Sharpstown from the 60s was completely Asian by the mid to late 70s. All of the grocery stores were Asian markets with Asian signage. Didn't even recognize the place.

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I would much prefer that to what it is now. It's BAD.

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It's funny, there was still a remnant in Alief (near Sharpstown) of working-class-urbanized Asians (mostly vietnamese and Cambodian I think) back in the 90's and early 2000's when I was living pretty much due north of there a ways in Spring Branch. In those days there were Asian gangs that you didn't want to mess with.

Now it seems to be almost all low income black and hispanic. High crime area and I think the Asians consolidated in China Town off Bellaire over the years (not too far from there).

She visits a home in Frisco Texas that has multiple H1B visa recipients registered to work for a tech company.

She asks one simple question and the man immediately says he’s calling the cops.

This needs to be investigated much deeper! pic.twitter.com/92cvSZBxsn

— AmericanPapaBear™ (@AmericaPapaBear) January 22, 2026

Unfortunately, Collin County is becoming the Mumbai of Texas. Are nice developments that are all occupied by Indians every single house apartments everywhere you look is a new Indian eatery being built. I am so sick of it. These people stink like *****. you smell curry off of the air get the F out

My daughter is a Kindergarten teacher in Frisco and 15 of her 18 students are Indian.

She told me she's heard from parents there's a sign in Indta (exact location unknown) that says "move to Frisco, TX".

I play pickleball in Frisco and I bet the club is 75% Indian. The schools are well over half Indian in Frisco as well.

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My daughter is a Kindergarten teacher in Frisco and 15 of her 18 students are Indian.

She told me she's heard from parents there's a sign in Indta (exact location unknown) that says "move to Frisco, TX".

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She visits a home in Frisco Texas that has multiple H1B visa recipients registered to work for a tech company.

She asks one simple question and the man immediately says he’s calling the cops.

This needs to be investigated much deeper! pic.twitter.com/92cvSZBxsn

— AmericanPapaBear™ (@AmericaPapaBear) January 22, 2026

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We're being played. The corruption and lies are so deep I don't know if we can recover.

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It's just about been the death of football at a lot of Frisco ISD schools. All the schools on the east end of the district are struggling even to field a team.

Independence High School
Students: 1,698
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Liberty High School (only win was Independence)
Students: 1,798
1-9

Heritage High School (2 out of district wins)
Students: 1,996
2-8

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To be fair, even if they actually played they would still have those records. Indians are terrible athletes with one of the lowest grip strengths in the world. They have won one summer gold medal in the Olympics in their entire history.

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Of course not, never believe any stats from India at all. They lie about virtually everything.

HALF of the Board of Collin County Conservatives is Indian.

https://collincountyconservativerepublicans.com/board-members/

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No problem as long as there is assimilation for those seeking permanent residency or citizenship. My concern is the caste system and nepotism are very strongly culturally embedded in most of India and I wonder if that is moving over to enclaves in the USA. It would be viewed as corruption and bigotry here and isn't very compatible with a more traditional American value system.

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Frisco interlopers are complaining about other interlopers.

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I watched one guy argue for five minutes on why he should be allowed to use an expired coupon on his haircut... they will negotiate to a fault and then still try to screw you.

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I know someone who worked at a Mercedes dealership who refused to try to sell to Indian people after being burned by them at the finished line. It seems to be a cultural tactic to act like they are your best friend, whittle you out of most of your commission, while taking up an extraordinary amount of time, only to reneg on the deal at the final moment, screwing you out of just about all of your commission.

Sounds like it was mostly the over-50 crowd that was the worst. One of the Indian men realized what he had done and must have had some shred of a concsience to feel bad and gave a $100 tip, which still didn't make up for the time spent with him or the hassle, or pretty much the complete elimination of commission.

Seems like a sketchy ass culture, outside of the Christian Indians who tend to assimilate much much better, and embrace the good traditions of their homeland, while making efforts to "blend in" here.

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The Merc dealership can be sued for "discrimination". And it seems like there is a case.

Car dealerships are as slimy as CEOs. I don't feel bad when someone gets them at their own game. They are known for cheating people all the time.

So sorry, I don't feel bad for them.

In 2025, I bought an Audi SUV for my wife. The dealership guy tries to screw me too but he didn't know who he was dealing with. I gave him my price (which was lower but in the "reasonable" area). He laughed, taunted and acted like I was clueless. I said "call me when you are ready" and stayed silent. Eventually I got a great deal from another dealership 20 miles away, for a car with better options and packages for a price about 5k lower. The earlier dealership guy who was taunting me had to reduce it about 6k before he finally sold it (to someone else). heh.

So bottomline is car dealerships have their slimy tricks and they got outslimed by Indian H1Bs. Don't feel bad for them.

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This person wasn't slimey, he was dealing with liars who backed out on the deal at the last minute over a few hundred dollars, totally screwing him. High maintenance millionaires...screwing a working class guy over a few hundred bucks. You know how a certain demogrqaphic has an unsavory reputation in the restaurant industry for requiring a disproportionate amount of attention, while barely tipping, if at all? That's Indians at car dealerships. It's well known. They are brutal (in general). The younger ones seem to operate like normal Americans.

What you did is standard negotiation. Lying and not giving a damn about the person's time you wasted or the fact that they basically made ZERO money off the long drawn out deal, is immoral and sketchy behavior. Probably just SOP in Mumbai or New Delhi or wherever, but not here.

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My friend. What "deal" are you talking about? Was anything signed? Or were they still in negotiations? If something was signed, then the dealership should take the Indian fellow to court and sue his pants off. I will be with the dealership on this.

Companies do this all the time, promise and then renege. They give out job offers and rescind.. ah yes, "for business reasons" of course. Is that okay?

Blame Indians sure, but not for such dumb reasons.

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Here is the problem...when you shake someone's hand and agree to something...that is a "deal" in America. If you are a moral person, with western values. My family has been here since the 1600's and that is generally the way it has always been.

Thst mentality is the problem some of us are complaining about right there. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it is ethical or moral. This seems to be a foreign concept to people from most non-western countries, and why so many people want those who will assimilate to our culture.

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2 things.

1. No evidence any "hand shake deal" happened. You never mentioned it. Now you are claiming they had a hand shake deal.
2. Hand shake deals don't mean jack. This is 2026. Companies screw you, so you screw them back. Companies did it to themselves by ruining trust.

So in 2026, there is no trust. No shake hand deal. Just naked business. If the Indian man signed something, then he is on the hook. If no sign, then too bad. Looks like the car dealership guy outsmarted himself and is butt-hurt and blaming the foreign guy.

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If you cannot deal with people in good faith negotiations then you're incompatible with Western civilization, end of story. Car dealerships known for screwing over people will get crushed by word of mouth and often these places end up losing huge amount of business. The same thing should apply to any group of people who are incapable of conducting business in good faith.

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From what I have seen, the newest Indian immigrants tend to follow previous waves into the same communities. They leverage common language and culture, have restaurants that serve food from home, etc. I watched it in Sugar Land when I lived in Rosenberg, and in Leander when I lived there.

In some ways, it's not a whole lot different from Chinatown or Little Italy, historically. It becomes a problem if the new immigrants don't assimilate to American cultural norms and values. Instead of helping facilitate the transition, those insular communities can make it easier to stay separate from American culture.

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Or Katy-zuela. But at least that enclave is heavily comprised of curvy latina women who hate commies. If ever in the Cinco Ranch area, do yourself a favor and go to Trader Joe's.

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I'm in Cinco. My son's elementary school is now 37% Asian (mix of Middle Eastern, oriental, and Indian), 30% white, and close to 30% Hispanic (mostly South American, although his best friend is actually from Spain).

For the Asian demo, it seems like mostly ME, then it's probably a toss up between Indian and "Oriental". All of which have moved to the US within the last 5-10 years. I'd have to do some research, but I'd bet the area was 90% native born Americans 15-20 years ago.

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I grew up in Spring Branch and spent tons of time in Katy with friends who ended up going to Katy Taylor in the 90's. It is crazy how much the demographics have changed since those days.

The area zoned to Taylor was probably over 90% white, with a touch of completely Americanized hispanics.

I am constantly astounded by how many foreigners live out there now, or in my area (Cypress).

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I can't stand it. Cheating in schools among top students is now off the charts for the point where Katy schools are getting blacklisted by universities because it's so common. The demographic changes have basically ruined it. I no longer feel like I live in Texas anymore. The only reason I remain in the Houston area is because of work, I hate it here.

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You are demonstrating the exact foreign behavior that we all despise. Congratulations on not assimilating.

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Wake up. It's 2026.

Corporations started this by treating Americans like trash. Now there's a backlash so they are complaining.

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We're not talking about a corporation here. But if you were as smart as you think you are, you'd know that.

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It's a wonder why Indians have become the most despised minority here in a short amount of time. The arrogance and unwillingness to change their behavior is astounding. I'd honestly take illegal Hispanics over them.

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500,000 H1Bs is actually 3-4 million Indians. And any new kids they have here are given citizenship because we are a stupid country.

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They need to go deeper on the mayor.

He has a real estate company and he's made tens of millions off of land deals in Frisco. They buy land, then work with a developer to build out Indian cultural housing (multi-generational under one roof). That's marketed and sold with a couple of placement firms who are bringing people over from India.

Frisco's also spending city funds to advertise Frisco over in India. It's a great racket for him and his kids (all in real estate with him).

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Ultimately it is Americans who are selling out America.

Not Indians, not Africans, not Martians.

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Of course and I hate these Boomers for doing that. It should have never ever happened.

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I watched one guy argue for five minutes on why he should be allowed to use an expired coupon on his haircut... they will negotiate to a fault and then still try to screw you.

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I know someone who worked at a Mercedes dealership who refused to try to sell to Indian people after being burned by them at the finished line. It seems to be a cultural tactic to act like they are your best friend, whittle you out of most of your commission, while taking up an extraordinary amount of time, only to reneg on the deal at the final moment, screwing you out of just about all of your commission.

Sounds like it was mostly the over-50 crowd that was the worst. One of the Indian men realized what he had done and must have had some shred of a concsience to feel bad and gave a $100 tip, which still didn't make up for the time spent with him or the hassle, or pretty much the complete elimination of commission.

Seems like a sketchy ass culture, outside of the Christian Indians who tend to assimilate much much better, and embrace the good traditions of their homeland, while making efforts to "blend in" here.

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The Merc dealership can be sued for "discrimination". And it seems like there is a case.

Car dealerships are as slimy as CEOs. I don't feel bad when someone gets them at their own game. They are known for cheating people all the time.

So sorry, I don't feel bad for them.

In 2025, I bought an Audi SUV for my wife. The dealership guy tries to screw me too but he didn't know who he was dealing with. I gave him my price (which was lower but in the "reasonable" area). He laughed, taunted and acted like I was clueless. I said "call me when you are ready" and stayed silent. Eventually I got a great deal from another dealership 20 miles away, for a car with better options and packages for a price about 5k lower. The earlier dealership guy who was taunting me had to reduce it about 6k before he finally sold it (to someone else). heh.

So bottomline is car dealerships have their slimy tricks and they got outslimed by Indian H1Bs. Don't feel bad for them.

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This person wasn't slimey, he was dealing with liars who backed out on the deal at the last minute over a few hundred dollars, totally screwing him. High maintenance millionaires...screwing a working class guy over a few hundred bucks. You know how a certain demogrqaphic has an unsavory reputation in the restaurant industry for requiring a disproportionate amount of attention, while barely tipping, if at all? That's Indians at car dealerships. It's well known. They are brutal (in general). The younger ones seem to operate like normal Americans.

What you did is standard negotiation. Lying and not giving a damn about the person's time you wasted or the fact that they basically made ZERO money off the long drawn out deal, is immoral and sketchy behavior. Probably just SOP in Mumbai or New Delhi or wherever, but not here.

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My friend. What "deal" are you talking about? Was anything signed? Or were they still in negotiations? If something was signed, then the dealership should take the Indian fellow to court and sue his pants off. I will be with the dealership on this.

Companies do this all the time, promise and then renege. They give out job offers and rescind.. ah yes, "for business reasons" of course. Is that okay?

Blame Indians sure, but not for such dumb reasons.

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Here is the problem...when you shake someone's hand and agree to something...that is a "deal" in America. If you are a moral person, with western values. My family has been here since the 1600's and that is generally the way it has always been.

Thst mentality is the problem some of us are complaining about right there. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it is ethical or moral. This seems to be a foreign concept to people from most non-western countries, and why so many people want those who will assimilate to our culture.

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2 things.

1. No evidence any "hand shake deal" happened. You never mentioned it. Now you are claiming they had a hand shake deal.
2. Hand shake deals don't mean jack. This is 2026. Companies screw you, so you screw them back. Companies did it to themselves by ruining trust.

So in 2026, there is no trust. No shake hand deal. Just naked business. If the Indian man signed something, then he is on the hook. If no sign, then too bad. Looks like the car dealership guy outsmarted himself and is butt-hurt and blaming the foreign guy.

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If you cannot deal with people in good faith negotiations then you're incompatible with Western civilization, end of story. Car dealerships known for screwing over people will get crushed by word of mouth and often these places end up losing huge amount of business. The same thing should apply to any group of people who are incapable of conducting business in good faith.

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I would never trust a car salesman. Especially the ones who call me "buddy" or "my friend".

A relationship with a car salesman is a short duration one. The next time you go to buy a new car after a few years, he will not even remember you.

Where it matters is in potential long term business relationships like a supplier or a vendor.

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HALF of the Board of Collin County Conservatives is Indian.

https://collincountyconservativerepublicans.com/board-members/

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I don't for one second believe any of these people share any values with me. Indians are proven opportunists and only choose the path of least resistance so they can get into power and ultimately use nepotism to 100% favor Indians.

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Texas is the H1B capital of America.

I have been yelling about it for months. Many people don't care as long as their 401ks are full.
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So true. Complicit in these scams are our own law firms:

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According to the indictment, Abdul Hadi Murshid, Muhammad Salman Nasir, the Law Offices of D. Robert Jones PLLC, and Reliable Ventures, Inc. engaged in a scheme to commit visa fraud to enrich themselves and others, and to cause individuals to fraudulently obtain entry into and immigration status in the United States. It is alleged that Murshid, Nasir, and others submitted and caused to be submitted false and fraudulent visa applications for individuals who were not United States citizens (hereinafter referred to as "visa seekers"), and applications to adjust status of the visa seekers so the visa seekers could enter and remain in the United States.

"These defendants are charged with engaging in extensive measures to hide a massive, multi-year, immigration fraud scheme through which they reaped substantial personal financial gain," said Acting U.S. Attorney Chad E. Meacham. "Pursuing criminal charges to deter and punish this type of flagrant disregard for the lawful immigration process is a top priority of this Office."

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https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/two-texas-residents-operating-visa-racket-indicted-visa-fraud-money-laundering-and

You all are blaming the wrong entities.

At Fault (in order)
1. US Politicians
2. US CEOs
3. US businesses who make money off this racket like immigration firms, lobbyists
4. Indian Bodyshopping companies
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100. Indian H1B holders


I know you are all pissed and I am more pissed than you. Look at my posting history and you will see how close this is to my heart, this is eating us up and will finish us off in the coming years unless we do something. Fake conservatives are usually Boomers who want this to continue for another 15-20 years which is as long as they expect to live. But what about our kids? And grand-kids?

We (Americans) got greedy for a quick buck and let the Indian H1Bs in. We did it. The H1Bs did not fly in on their own, so don't blame them. They are all legal immigrants. We framed foolish dumb laws riddled with holes so everyone, both Indians and Americans took advantage. Not just Indians made bank, it was Americans also.

How come no one here has the balls to blame Andy Jassy (white guy running Amazon)? He is the biggest hirer of H1Bs in the country. What about Jamie Dimon - another white guy running JPMC who is fighting for more H1Bs. Are you scared of blaming a CEO and would rather pick on some poor weak Indian dude who wants to make a living and is settling for slave wages? What about Google? Elon Musk, a white guy, naturalized American said he will "go to war on H1B" which means that he will destroy anyone who opposes it.

Afraid to condemn these guys because they are rich, white and influential?

Focus on the head of this dragon. And it is within. It is in America. The good news is since the problem is at our end, we can fix it.

Our US politicians have failed us. Only Trump can do something, and he is. I would like it to be quicker, but it is what it is.
Direct your anger on US politicians and keep up your pressure on them.

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I know someone who worked at a Mercedes dealership who refused to try to sell to Indian people after being burned by them at the finished line. It seems to be a cultural tactic to act like they are your best friend, whittle you out of most of your commission, while taking up an extraordinary amount of time, only to reneg on the deal at the final moment, screwing you out of just about all of your commission.

Lying and not giving a damn about the person's time you wasted or the fact that they basically made ZERO money off the long drawn out deal, is immoral and sketchy behavior. Probably just SOP in Mumbai or New Delhi or wherever, but not here.

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Thanks for this. I'm in my mid 40s, and every single dealership interaction I've had involved all of the Indian behavior you describe. As far as I'm concerned, hearing that a large demographic is giving dealerships a strong dose of their own medicine is a silver lining on this dark cloud, though I sympathize with your friend.

I'm sure there are honest car salesmen that are pleasant to deal with, and I have no reason to doubt your friend is one of them. I just have never dealt with one myself, and the proliferation of "no haggle" car sales says that's not just anecdotal.

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I watched one guy argue for five minutes on why he should be allowed to use an expired coupon on his haircut... they will negotiate to a fault and then still try to screw you.

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I know someone who worked at a Mercedes dealership who refused to try to sell to Indian people after being burned by them at the finished line. It seems to be a cultural tactic to act like they are your best friend, whittle you out of most of your commission, while taking up an extraordinary amount of time, only to reneg on the deal at the final moment, screwing you out of just about all of your commission.

Sounds like it was mostly the over-50 crowd that was the worst. One of the Indian men realized what he had done and must have had some shred of a concsience to feel bad and gave a $100 tip, which still didn't make up for the time spent with him or the hassle, or pretty much the complete elimination of commission.

Seems like a sketchy ass culture, outside of the Christian Indians who tend to assimilate much much better, and embrace the good traditions of their homeland, while making efforts to "blend in" here.

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The Merc dealership can be sued for "discrimination". And it seems like there is a case.

Car dealerships are as slimy as CEOs. I don't feel bad when someone gets them at their own game. They are known for cheating people all the time.

So sorry, I don't feel bad for them.

In 2025, I bought an Audi SUV for my wife. The dealership guy tries to screw me too but he didn't know who he was dealing with. I gave him my price (which was lower but in the "reasonable" area). He laughed, taunted and acted like I was clueless. I said "call me when you are ready" and stayed silent. Eventually I got a great deal from another dealership 20 miles away, for a car with better options and packages for a price about 5k lower. The earlier dealership guy who was taunting me had to reduce it about 6k before he finally sold it (to someone else). heh.

So bottomline is car dealerships have their slimy tricks and they got outslimed by Indian H1Bs. Don't feel bad for them.

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This person wasn't slimey, he was dealing with liars who backed out on the deal at the last minute over a few hundred dollars, totally screwing him. High maintenance millionaires...screwing a working class guy over a few hundred bucks. You know how a certain demogrqaphic has an unsavory reputation in the restaurant industry for requiring a disproportionate amount of attention, while barely tipping, if at all? That's Indians at car dealerships. It's well known. They are brutal (in general). The younger ones seem to operate like normal Americans.

What you did is standard negotiation. Lying and not giving a damn about the person's time you wasted or the fact that they basically made ZERO money off the long drawn out deal, is immoral and sketchy behavior. Probably just SOP in Mumbai or New Delhi or wherever, but not here.

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My friend. What "deal" are you talking about? Was anything signed? Or were they still in negotiations? If something was signed, then the dealership should take the Indian fellow to court and sue his pants off. I will be with the dealership on this.

Companies do this all the time, promise and then renege. They give out job offers and rescind.. ah yes, "for business reasons" of course. Is that okay?

Blame Indians sure, but not for such dumb reasons.

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Here is the problem...when you shake someone's hand and agree to something...that is a "deal" in America. If you are a moral person, with western values. My family has been here since the 1600's and that is generally the way it has always been.

Thst mentality is the problem some of us are complaining about right there. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it is ethical or moral. This seems to be a foreign concept to people from most non-western countries, and why so many people want those who will assimilate to our culture.

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2 things.

1. No evidence any "hand shake deal" happened. You never mentioned it. Now you are claiming they had a hand shake deal.
2. Hand shake deals don't mean jack. This is 2026. Companies screw you, so you screw them back. Companies did it to themselves by ruining trust.

So in 2026, there is no trust. No shake hand deal. Just naked business. If the Indian man signed something, then he is on the hook. If no sign, then too bad. Looks like the car dealership guy outsmarted himself and is butt-hurt and blaming the foreign guy.

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Zero self-awareness

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We did it. The H1Bs did not fly in on their own, so don't blame them. They are all legal immigrants. We framed foolish dumb laws riddled with holes so everyone, both Indians and Americans took advantage. Not just Indians made bank, it was Americans also.

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Two additional points:

1) Rank and file Americans have been told for decades that "diversity is our strength," "America is a nation of immigrants." "Don't be racist," etc., etc. When I would complain about our neighborhood changing years ago, people looked at me like I was crazy. They were afraid to notice.

The most common response I would get was something like, "Well, I work with a Chinese guy and he's nice." Or, "Man, I love Indian food. We're so fortunate to have diversity!"

Our neighborhood magazines/newspapers would do profiles on people and EVERY SINGLE ONE of the white folks interviewed would say the reason they loved living here was DIVERSITY. Every time. Like NPCs in a video game. Now there are no more white people to profile.

People were brainwashed into shutting up and not thinking about the long-term impacts of mass immigration and what it might mean for their children and grandchildren. We still see the affects of this today with the idiots who protest ICE.

2) The tremendous increase in Indian and Muslim immigration happened so quickly even people who notice these things were caught off guard. It's why there has been such a backlash -- entire neighborhoods and suburban communities transformed literally overnight.

We will never know the true numbers but it's clearly in the many, many millions -- all brought in over the past 10 years.

The change in our country happened very slowly, and then all at once. We never had a chance.

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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infinity ag said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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infinity ag said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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CaptAmerica03 said:

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I watched one guy argue for five minutes on why he should be allowed to use an expired coupon on his haircut... they will negotiate to a fault and then still try to screw you.

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I know someone who worked at a Mercedes dealership who refused to try to sell to Indian people after being burned by them at the finished line. It seems to be a cultural tactic to act like they are your best friend, whittle you out of most of your commission, while taking up an extraordinary amount of time, only to reneg on the deal at the final moment, screwing you out of just about all of your commission.

Sounds like it was mostly the over-50 crowd that was the worst. One of the Indian men realized what he had done and must have had some shred of a concsience to feel bad and gave a $100 tip, which still didn't make up for the time spent with him or the hassle, or pretty much the complete elimination of commission.

Seems like a sketchy ass culture, outside of the Christian Indians who tend to assimilate much much better, and embrace the good traditions of their homeland, while making efforts to "blend in" here.

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The Merc dealership can be sued for "discrimination". And it seems like there is a case.

Car dealerships are as slimy as CEOs. I don't feel bad when someone gets them at their own game. They are known for cheating people all the time.

So sorry, I don't feel bad for them.

In 2025, I bought an Audi SUV for my wife. The dealership guy tries to screw me too but he didn't know who he was dealing with. I gave him my price (which was lower but in the "reasonable" area). He laughed, taunted and acted like I was clueless. I said "call me when you are ready" and stayed silent. Eventually I got a great deal from another dealership 20 miles away, for a car with better options and packages for a price about 5k lower. The earlier dealership guy who was taunting me had to reduce it about 6k before he finally sold it (to someone else). heh.

So bottomline is car dealerships have their slimy tricks and they got outslimed by Indian H1Bs. Don't feel bad for them.

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This person wasn't slimey, he was dealing with liars who backed out on the deal at the last minute over a few hundred dollars, totally screwing him. High maintenance millionaires...screwing a working class guy over a few hundred bucks. You know how a certain demogrqaphic has an unsavory reputation in the restaurant industry for requiring a disproportionate amount of attention, while barely tipping, if at all? That's Indians at car dealerships. It's well known. They are brutal (in general). The younger ones seem to operate like normal Americans.

What you did is standard negotiation. Lying and not giving a damn about the person's time you wasted or the fact that they basically made ZERO money off the long drawn out deal, is immoral and sketchy behavior. Probably just SOP in Mumbai or New Delhi or wherever, but not here.

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My friend. What "deal" are you talking about? Was anything signed? Or were they still in negotiations? If something was signed, then the dealership should take the Indian fellow to court and sue his pants off. I will be with the dealership on this.

Companies do this all the time, promise and then renege. They give out job offers and rescind.. ah yes, "for business reasons" of course. Is that okay?

Blame Indians sure, but not for such dumb reasons.

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Here is the problem...when you shake someone's hand and agree to something...that is a "deal" in America. If you are a moral person, with western values. My family has been here since the 1600's and that is generally the way it has always been.

Thst mentality is the problem some of us are complaining about right there. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it is ethical or moral. This seems to be a foreign concept to people from most non-western countries, and why so many people want those who will assimilate to our culture.

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2 things.

1. No evidence any "hand shake deal" happened. You never mentioned it. Now you are claiming they had a hand shake deal.
2. Hand shake deals don't mean jack. This is 2026. Companies screw you, so you screw them back. Companies did it to themselves by ruining trust.

So in 2026, there is no trust. No shake hand deal. Just naked business. If the Indian man signed something, then he is on the hook. If no sign, then too bad. Looks like the car dealership guy outsmarted himself and is butt-hurt and blaming the foreign guy.

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Zero self-awareness

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You are talking about how things should be.
I am talking about how things are.

There is a difference.

EclipseAg said:

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We did it. The H1Bs did not fly in on their own, so don't blame them. They are all legal immigrants. We framed foolish dumb laws riddled with holes so everyone, both Indians and Americans took advantage. Not just Indians made bank, it was Americans also.

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Two additional points:

1) Rank and file Americans have been told for decades that "diversity is our strength," "America is a nation of immigrants." "Don't be racist," etc., etc. When I would complain about our neighborhood changing years ago, people looked at me like I was crazy. They were afraid to notice.

The most common response I would get was something like, "Well, I work with a Chinese guy and he's nice." Or, "Man, I love Indian food. We're so fortunate to have diversity!"

Our neighborhood magazines/newspapers would do profiles on people and EVERY SINGLE ONE of the white folks interviewed would say the reason they loved living here was DIVERSITY. Every time. Like NPCs in a video game. Now there are no more white people to profile.

People were brainwashed into shutting up and not thinking about the long-term impacts of mass immigration and what it might mean for their children and grandchildren. We still see the affects of this today with the idiots who protest ICE.

2) The tremendous increase in Indian and Muslim immigration happened so quickly even people who notice these things were caught off guard. It's why there has been such a backlash -- entire neighborhoods and suburban communities transformed literally overnight.

We will never know the true numbers but it's clearly in the many, many millions -- all brought in over the past 10 years.

The change in our country happened very slowly, and then all at once. We never had a chance.

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Thanks for the analysis. All good points.

I think the major flaw in the American mindset is we think we are "capitalists" which means we measure everything with money. Nothing wrong in that but the detail we miss out on is short term vs long term. We are all about making a short term buck and scooting off. That is why we sell out our IP, our manufacturing, our country in order to make a buck. The other danger is we think that EVERYONE thinks in the same way or should think this way. Older cultures like China and India do not, they have long term visions. They are willing to trade a short term buck for a long term jackpot. That is how China grabbed our manufacturing and India snatched our IT work.

Our top companies are all about making a quick buck while the going is good. Maybe Steve Jobs was the last of the great CEOs who did not care about the stock market, he cared about making great products. Same with Bill Gates. Satya Nadella does everything with an eye on the stock market (according to insider info).

Diversity is good but only if the majority group doesn't get woke about it. And have the balls to tell people that the boat has sailed and to go back. It is nice to have people from other countries in small numbers. Not invasions like you see now with Indians. Even the Chinese are not in the invading mode now you don't see as many (maybe you do in the Bay Area).