I can recall when the Soviet Union (USSR) and European Soviet block had borders that would NOT allow people to leave their Soviet "Utopia"!!!!

As much as I am against taxation without representation, I am more against representation without taxation.

Ag87H2O said:

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It's not complicated. The Dems believe illegals will vote for them if they let them in and give them free stuff. That will allow them to advance their far-left, socialistic agenda. The end justifies the means.

That is all.

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This is some of it, but the bigger goal is to gain seats in the House of Representatives by counting illegals in the census the same as we do native born citizens. It gives blue states a disproportionate share of the House districts/seats and pretty much guarantees them a permanent majority if it not stopped, either through deportation or by court mandate.

This is why they are fighting the deportations with everything they've got.

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Bingo….this is spot on right here. There is a reason why so many of them were flown directly to states like Minnesota & Ohio

Nm

Ag87H2O said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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It's not complicated. The Dems believe illegals will vote for them if they let them in and give them free stuff. That will allow them to advance their far-left, socialistic agenda. The end justifies the means.

That is all.

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This is some of it, but the bigger goal is to gain seats in the House of Representatives by counting illegals in the census the same as we do native born citizens. It gives blue states a disproportionate share of the House districts/seats and pretty much guarantees them a permanent majority if it not stopped, either through deportation or by court mandate.

This is why they are fighting the deportations with everything they've got.

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Correct.

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This all ends if the Supreme Court rules illegals can't be counted in the census.

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I can only hope and vote.
Anyone considering voting for any Democratic Party candidate at any level of government should immediately reconsider their voting preferences.

Their goal is cause problems for Trump to implement his plans and policies, that's it. They were defending drug smugglers' boats, they were defending a communist dictator that they had previously criticized and called for him to step down. This is solely about creating trouble to stop Trump, whatever he's trying to do.

They're also hoping that one of these incidents causes enough uproar that they can impeach him again and again and again....

Pooh-ah95-ESL - 1000% correct

Financing for this insurrection is from China, Russia, Mexico, Iran, Soros, Singham, socialist & communist groups in America and foundations.

Moon Shadow said:

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I can recall when the Soviet Union (USSR) and European Soviet block had borders that would NOT allow people to leave their Soviet "Utopia"!!!!

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True.
Visited Check Point Charlie in Berlin in 1964 or1965. Stood on wooden stands overlooking the wall and the mined zone with barbed wire. At the time, a Russian soldier was always paired with an East German soldier. If the Russian soldier was on the right of the East German, frequently the East German would wave his lowered left hand at us.
Same thing happened on a high school basketball trip on the freedom train through East Germany. Since the train was forced to stop in numerous East German cities before getting to Berlin. The East Germans would hide the waving to us from the Russian soldiers.

Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

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Nah, deporting illegals is important so that the communist democrats can't use them for representation and electoral votes in blue states or give them amnesty when they get power again. Such a crappy party that has to import 3rd world foreigner leaches because their ideas and policies are *h**.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

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Illegal immigration is a problem for all four of those.

Simple. They want them here strictly for the votes to keep them in power, money and their crooked political offices.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

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Wake up man. Every single issue you listed is negatively impacted by illegal immigration.

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This is the new trend of Leftists in the West

That they don't represent the interests of their country or their people but represent the interests of foreigners in exploiting their country and people (and are happy to participate in that exploitation for increasing their own personal wealth and power)

They see that they don't need the will or consent of their citizens anymore if they can just import enough 3rd worlders to keep them in power in exchange for welfare (look at Mamdani, a foreigner put into power by other foreigners) that those politicians extract from native citizens until they reach a critical mass of power and can simply become the China style "communists" (actually authoritarian collectivist oligarchies) they dream of being

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Correct.

Hell, we had at least one elected Democrat (black lady) up north asking for illegals to be sent up there because she flat out said it would bolster Democrats prospects in elections. I'm pretty sure she got groans from her party taking her mask off, but everyone knows it's true.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

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Your ignorance and trolling on all things is just epic. Illegal immigration significantly and negatively impacts each of these. All of these massively improve if you remove the illegal immigrant variable.

Some of us don't want our country stolen from us. I realize you're on the same side as the foreign Marxists.

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I'm really struggling to try and get a straight answer why folks want illegals here.

1) has ICE had a few misfires and grabbed the wrong people? I can see how this is bad. Are they making tons of mistakes in doing their jobs? Holman said the priority is grabbing the illegal criminals but leftists just assume he is grabbing illegal kids and grandmothers.

2) the easy button is to say TDS

3) are the bleeding heart liberals trying to save the whole world of people in poverty? They can't stand the sight of seeing kids getting screwed over by their parents putting them in harms way?

4) we are trying to clean up the mess from Biden. I guess they think that Trump is mean and Biden is a humanitarian and therefore can't apply logic to borders.

I'm just trying to understand why open borders are bad and why leftists want this……trying not to idealize the whole thing with leftists jokes but figure out why they are so passionate about open borders and not rounding up people.

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someone did a breakdown of number 1 on X/reels recently showing that ICE has gotten a correct arrest some 99.7% of the time when they decide to go. I think most police offices in huge metros would love to have that sort of arrest record.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

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What you don't understand is that if you remove illegal immigration, all of those pieces begin to correct themselves (housing would need to be examined a bit more). Healthcare and insurance is overrun by people having accidents with illegals with no insurance on the causing vehicle. Then the law abiding American gets to foot the bill and their insurance rate goes up.

Healthcare has how many illegals show up in a hospital and claim some sort of Medicaide benefit or just doesn't pay at all. Well Americans are going to foot that bill with a bloated budget or rising hospital costs.

Have you been in a public school recently? Take a look at most ESL rolls in elementary/middle school/high school. The number of children having to have that support is staggering.

So clean up immigration and most of what you are asking about self-corrects.

He's just gaslighting.

I think we have established the left politicians need illegal
Immigration for their voting blocks

I still don't understand how the 20-30 something leftists are willing to get this involved and passionate about illegal aliens.

I don't think a lot of them understand logic and are being fed that Trump is mean. Illegal immigrations fits this narrative perfectly t because Trump is rounding people up in their minds.

Magneto said:

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I think we have established the left politicians need illegal
Immigration for their voting blocks

I still don't understand how the 20-30 something leftists are willing to get this involved and passionate about illegal aliens.

I don't think a lot of them understand logic and are being fed that Trump is mean. Illegal immigrations fits this narrative perfectly t because Trump is rounding people up in their minds.

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The people in the streets fighting this are brainwashed ret@rds that are LARPing around like they are some kind of freedom fighters resisting the gestapo. These people, along with the squish moderates believing the democrat propaganda, are that stupid.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

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Simple economics. You have more people chasing goods = higher costs. Especially with a sudden increase to the demand (20+ Million in the Biden years). Get legals out - lower rents, lower healthcare, less stress on public education, lower insurance rates, etc.

We spent over a billion in Texas alone for illegals at our hospitals last year.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Magneto said:

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I think we have established the left politicians need illegal
Immigration for their voting blocks

I still don't understand how the 20-30 something leftists are willing to get this involved and passionate about illegal aliens.

I don't think a lot of them understand logic and are being fed that Trump is mean. Illegal immigrations fits this narrative perfectly t because Trump is rounding people up in their minds.

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The people in the streets fighting this are brainwashed ret@rds that are LARPing around like they are some kind of freedom fighters resisting the gestapo. These people, along with the squish moderates believing the democrat propaganda, are that stupid.

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Theatre kids need a purpose....

I suspect you see very different levels of opposition in blue states vs red states in our youth.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Illegal immigration is the last thing anyone should be worried about. There are so many more pressing issues like healthcare, the economy, housing prices, and education.

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Troll attempt: D-


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