Rand Paul on 60 Minutes

11,006 Views | 91 Replies | Last: 24 days ago by flown-the-coop
hph6203
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
johnnyblaze36 said:

Perhaps you'll enjoy reading the transcript instead although I don't expect you to come back with any different or logical conclusion:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rand-paul-says-dhs-ice-must-restore-trust-minneapolis-shootings-good-pretti-60-minutes-transcript/
Not sure what makes you think I wouldn't comment.

He is correct. We cannot have enforcement without broad support, or at the very least, passive acceptance. Otherwise you end up fighting the whole way. I want deportations. I want immigration enforcement. I don't want a belief to propagate across the country like was stated in the dumbass Grammy's last night where people believe "no one is illegal on stolen land" or "We're not aliens, we're Americans." They are not. They are illegal aliens that do not belong in the country.

When leaders go out there and lie about what occurred and say that a person with a holstered gun was intending on killing ICE agents it, as Rand said, damages trust. If they cannot accurately describe in the realm of reality what occurred they are lying and can't be trusted to enforce policy. "I was operating based upon what I knew at the time." Is not a reasonable excuse. It is 2026. It's a protest. They KNOW a video of the incident is going to be out there. The entire point of what they're doing is to disrupt operations and bait misbehavior by ICE. They will have cameras out. If they stand on a stage and say something wildly inaccurate occurred based upon descriptions alone they're an idiot and can't be trusted to enforce policy.

If they say things like "you can't have a weapon at a protest" it wildly undermines any 2A argument anyone makes. When it's argued that an individual is intending on causing mayhem by merely having more bullets than can fit in a single magazine it undermines any 2A argument. They cannot selectively decide who gets to have what when based upon political beliefs. They cannot say that the mere possession of a firearm is a threat on someone's life, and still validly argue 2A support.

Lots of discussions on this forum, including by you where you correctly describe it as murder, about the killing of Ashli Babbitt. Would the circumstances of her murder be any different had she had a gun? Would it be more justifiable? She would have been breaking additional laws, but a holstered gun is not a threat to anyone and does not any more justify her murder.


Rand is correct and he's pushing propaganda of the underlying principles of conservatism with those statements. They are anti-government overreach and government accountability. What some people are doing is defending actions in an effort to shield the Trump administration. I want Trump to be successful. What happened was the opposite of that.
pagerman @ work
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
flown-the-coop said:

shiftyandquick said:

flown-the-coop said:

shiftyandquick said:

Rand Paul is the only honest man in Shawshank.

That's why he is hated here.

He is not hated here. I catch PLENTY of flack from hating on Randy. What is new is seeing more and more of you libs showing up to defend him.

you mean "Reagan Republicans who have turned against MAGA."


Yea right. You know people can see your posting history, right?

Trump is more of a Reagan republican than Reagan was. Let that sink in.


“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
cevans_40
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Look at all you guys in here being nice and supporting the guy who was just out there peacefully protesting.

I am sure the dems are gonna like you any day now.
murphyag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
BlackGold said:

Rand might be one of the most philosophically consistent members of the senate. Everyone else has a highest bidder mindset. I respect him for that.

I agree with you.
bobbranco
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
shiftyandquick said:

flown-the-coop said:

shiftyandquick said:

Rand Paul is the only honest man in Shawshank.

That's why he is hated here.

He is not hated here. I catch PLENTY of flack from hating on Randy. What is new is seeing more and more of you libs showing up to defend him.

you mean "Reagan Republicans who have turned against MAGA."


And yet you will vote for Talarico in a heart beat.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?


"So Rand Paul's fing son is sitting next to us at the at the bar … And he just like chimes in on our conversation, fing drunk and belligerent, and then starts going off about, you know, if [Rep. Thomas] Massie [R-Ky.] loses [his primary], it's because of my people," Lawler recalled.

"I'm like, 'What people?' He goes, 'Jews,' and I'm like, 'Do you think I'm Jewish? … I'm Irish-Italian Catholic, buddy,'" the Hudson Valley lawmaker went on.

He's like, 'Wait, you're not Jewish?'" Lawler recalled the younger Paul asking, to which the lawmaker said he replied: "And even if I was, what's the problem?"

"And then he got into the Middle East, and he was talking about, like, us trying to steal Iran's land for the Jews and steal the West Bank, and I'm like, 'What are you talking about?'"





I'm Gipper
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
You sort out what name he uses when he posts on f16?
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The booze made me blame the jooze!!



I'm Gipper
Texaggie7nine
How long do you want to ignore this user?
As much as I loved a lot of what Ron Paul did and stood for, I always got uncomfortable listening to him speak on Israel. He just had a level of animosity whenever the subject came up. It was a big reason I stayed a neocon in the Bush years, because I couldn't get with Ron's side on hating jews.

Looks like it's been passed down.
7nine
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
For Ron, evidently delivering babies for Dow workers made him a bitter antagonist loon who essentially went to Congress to cast no votes after no votes.

Randy didn't fall far from the Brazorja live oak tree and somehow they infected Massie with their horse**** protests votes.

They all need to just move on.

BTW - Ron ran as a libertarian in the 1980s. A libertarian hiding in R clothing is a RINO of a different nature.
Texaggie7nine
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I usually vote libertarian when I can.
7nine
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I don't fault people for voting their passion. I respect much of the Liberian platform.

My issue is these guys were elected as Republicans. And they need allegiance to party. Else, run as an independent.
zag213004
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
flown-the-coop said:

I don't fault people for voting their passion. I respect much of the Liberian platform.

My issue is these guys were elected as Republicans. And they need allegiance to party. Else, run as an independent.


Wrong, their allegiance to the US constitution, supporting it and defending it. It's literally the first line of their oath upon taking office.

Quote:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Sure buddy.

Now let me know how him voting with Dems upholds the Constitution.

This isn't a game. Massie thinks it is and he needs to ****ing go. Period.
AggieVictor10
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
flown-the-coop said:

He's loonier than his dad and amazingly more narcissistic.


How is he narcissistic?
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AggieVictor10 said:

flown-the-coop said:

He's loonier than his dad and amazingly more narcissistic.


How is he narcissistic?

He is about Rand Paul 24/7 and Randy Knows Best.

As the son of Dr No, I would expect no less.
lead
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The Jews were irrelevant to me for the first 35 years of my life. How did they get so polarizing?
12thAngryMan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
flown-the-coop said:

I don't fault people for voting their passion. I respect much of the Liberian platform.

My issue is these guys were elected as Republicans. And they need allegiance to party. Else, run as an independent.


So if everyone just needs to fall in line, who is the supreme leader that tells them how the true Republicans should vote? The sad fact is that we will always be stuck with a two party system, so a candidate has little to no hope of getting elected if there isn't an R or a D next to their name. As long as Paul was forthright in his campaign about how he'd vote on the key issues, I see zero issues here. This loyalty test nonsense is completely anathema to how our system *should* work.
Artimus Gordon
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I don't pay any attention to Rand or Ron Paul either. Hell for all I know Ron may be dead by now.
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Artimus Gordon said:

I don't pay any attention to Rand or Ron Paul either. Hell for all I know Ron may be dead by now.

He stroked out on TV a few years ago but I think he's still around.
annie88
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I think it does represent him or he wouldn't have said it drunk or not.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I will give someone a pass on what they say out of anger over what they say drunk. If you are in a verbal altercation with someone, you will say what hurts / stings / offends the most, whether it's your spouse or your enemy.

When you are drunk, that is no filter. So whilst I would have to consider whether someone meant what they said drunk AND mad, just drunk would lend me to think they spoke their truth.
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.