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Cancel the pictures and send kids home with the hours for Olin Mills.

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Are they even still in business?

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It was acquired by LifeTouch. The last studio was closed in 2011, according to the google.

People now just look to be triggered over anything. Including getting triggered over someone else not getting triggered. It's all a bit non-sensical and I just have to step back and laugh at the absurdity of it all.

No, but if you don't want to go to Bank of America then don't ****ing go. No skin off you're back and a shorter line in the drive thru.

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Bud Lite sends a can to a troon. BOYCOTT!!! NOOO!!!

Parents at some schools don't want to do business with LifeTouch because of possible Epstein ties. NOOOOOO!!! DON'T HURT LIFETOUCH!!!

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I couldn't care less if parents don't want to do business with Life Touch for whatever reason. Their kids, their prerogative.

I find it ridiculous that parents are concerned that this somehow endangers their child. Which is pretty much what everyone else is saying.

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to do business with LifeTouch because of possible Epstein ties

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Because this isn't true. Again, you miss the whole point. It's outrage over nothing.

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You're surprised that parents don't want their kids photos taken by a company ran by a pedophile? Are you also surprised that farmers want to keep foxes out of their henhouse?

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The guy has been gone from the company for ~5 years.

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What if you don't want to support the businesses of pedophiles? Is that a good enough reason, or does the actual photographer need to be a pedophile?

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So, if an employee of let's say Bank of America gets arrested for child rape, does that mean the entire company is guilty and should be boycotted and shut down?

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You're being obtuse. Your argument is ridiculous. There's clearly a difference a Bank of America employee (like a teller) and the CEO of the company, but you already know that. It's clear that Leon Black is no longer the CEO of Apollo, but has he divested of all ownership? If not then he still has a financial tie to Lifetouch.

There's a reason why the Weinstein Company went bankrupt and there's a reason why Subway removed Jared Fogle as a spokesman. These were high profile people, just like Leon Black.

There's a difference between not wanting to support a business that unknowingly hired a low-level employee that was a pedophile, and not wanting to support a business that was founded and run by a pedophile. Hope this helps.

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You're surprised that parents don't want their kids photos taken by a company ran by a pedophile? Are you also surprised that farmers want to keep foxes out of their henhouse?

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Fantastic. Only took a few replies to get "Exibit A" for OP's premise.

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This is not the situation in the OP. This is a CEO of a company that owned another company that, finally, bought Lifetouch. The guy never owned nor worked for Lifetouch, let alone founded it. hth

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THIS

For some reason, this very, VERY simple fact is indigestible by a lot of people.

Ive long thought these yearly school photos are weird and a potential issue, irrespective of who is running the company.

Also having a laugh at your internet crusade to "stamp out this stupidity". You're not going to tell anyone which cameras to put their kids in front of

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Ive long thought these yearly school photos are weird and a potential issue, irrespective of who is running the company.

Also having a laugh at your internet crusade to "stamp out this stupidity". You're not going to tell anyone which cameras to put their kids in front of

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I do have a problem with people's livelihoods being harmed by completely irrational mob mania. This is a message board for people to share opinions. I wish I could laugh at the stubborn stupidity of people.

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Muktheduck said:

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Ive long thought these yearly school photos are weird and a potential issue, irrespective of who is running the company.

Also having a laugh at your internet crusade to "stamp out this stupidity". You're not going to tell anyone which cameras to put their kids in front of

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I do have a problem with people's livelihoods being harmed by completely irrational mob mania. This is a message board for people to share opinions. I wish I could laugh at the stubborn stupidity of people.

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Oh the drama. I'm sure a few parents at a small private school are going to put Lifetouch out of business.

Even if they did, it would open up a market for more personalized, local photographers. I thought the free market was popular around here

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Ask them their opinion about using Microsoft products for their kids.

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**** just got real, son!

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Ive long thought these yearly school photos are weird and a potential issue, irrespective of who is running the company.

Also having a laugh at your internet crusade to "stamp out this stupidity". You're not going to tell anyone which cameras to put their kids in front of

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I do have a problem with people's livelihoods being harmed by completely irrational mob mania. This is a message board for people to share opinions. I wish I could laugh at the stubborn stupidity of people.

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Oh the drama. I'm sure a few parents at a small private school are going to put Lifetouch out of business.

Even if they did, it would open up a market for more personalized, local photographers. I thought the free market was popular around here

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This isn't confined to one school. You want the free market affected by completely dishonest and irrational smear campaigns?

I want people to make decisions that aren't based on outrageous fear mongering and slander. It's better for society.

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That's what the free market is. What's dishonest and irrational to you is perfectly rational to others, and they get to make their own choices. I just told you my reticence with these photos far predates any kind of Epstein hysteria.

Anyways I'm going to stop rolling in the mud here. If you want to make a bet that Lifetouch is going to shut its doors this year thanks to this "mania" I'm happy to take the other side of it

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Ive long thought these yearly school photos are weird and a potential issue, irrespective of who is running the company.

Also having a laugh at your internet crusade to "stamp out this stupidity". You're not going to tell anyone which cameras to put their kids in front of

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I do have a problem with people's livelihoods being harmed by completely irrational mob mania. This is a message board for people to share opinions. I wish I could laugh at the stubborn stupidity of people.

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Oh the drama. I'm sure a few parents at a small private school are going to put Lifetouch out of business.

Even if they did, it would open up a market for more personalized, local photographers. I thought the free market was popular around here

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This isn't confined to one school. You want the free market affected by completely dishonest and irrational smear campaigns?

I want people to make decisions that aren't based on outrageous fear mongering and slander. It's better for society.

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That's what the free market is. What's dishonest and irrational to you is perfectly rational to others, and they get to make their own choices. I just told you my reticence with these photos far predates any kind of Epstein hysteria.

Anyways I'm going to stop rolling in the mud here. If you want to make a bet that Lifetouch is going to shut its doors this year thanks to this "mania" I'm happy to take the other side of it

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A lie is a lie, regardless of who hears it.

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You're surprised that parents don't want their kids photos taken by a company ran by a pedophile? Are you also surprised that farmers want to keep foxes out of their henhouse?

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The guy has been gone from the company for ~5 years.

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What if you don't want to support the businesses of pedophiles? Is that a good enough reason, or does the actual photographer need to be a pedophile?

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So, if an employee of let's say Bank of America gets arrested for child rape, does that mean the entire company is guilty and should be boycotted and shut down?

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You're being obtuse. Your argument is ridiculous. There's clearly a difference a Bank of America employee (like a teller) and the CEO of the company, but you already know that. It's clear that Leon Black is no longer the CEO of Apollo, but has he divested of all ownership? If not then he still has a financial tie to Lifetouch.

There's a reason why the Weinstein Company went bankrupt and there's a reason why Subway removed Jared Fogle as a spokesman. These were high profile people, just like Leon Black.

There's a difference between not wanting to support a business that unknowingly hired a low-level employee that was a pedophile, and not wanting to support a business that was founded and run by a pedophile. Hope this helps.

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This is not the situation in the OP. This is a CEO of a company that owned another company that, finally, bought Lifetouch. The guy never owned nor worked for Lifetouch, let alone founded it. hth

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I'm sure there are other photography companies that schools can use. It's strange that you're falling all over yourself to support this one. Strange hill to die on.

It's pretty simple in my book. Was Leon Black or the company he founded ever associated with Lifetouch and did he ever receive monetary benefit from the association? If so, can't hurt to distance oneself. This is just my opinion. If you don't mind the association, then support the company. It's a free country.

"Epstein is your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate."

Zachary Klement said:

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Bud Lite sends a can to a troon. BOYCOTT!!! NOOO!!!

Parents at some schools don't want to do business with LifeTouch because of possible Epstein ties. NOOOOOO!!! DON'T HURT LIFETOUCH!!!

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You weren't supposed to boycott - you were supposed to buy cases and cases of it and shoot it with a machine gun.

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Do you people not understand how ludicrous you're being. Can you imagine founding a company and turning it into a successful business that got bought by a larger company, which was in turn owned by yet another larger business, then it was learned that decades ago the CEO of the larger business had ties to Epstein. Suddenly, your company which had nothing to do with Epstein is in jeopardy because of irrational mob mania that has turned otherwise intelligent people into morons that refuse to do business with you because they're worried about pedophiles looking at their kids' pics.

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It's called a lynch mob.

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torrid said:

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Cancel the pictures and send kids home with the hours for Olin Mills.

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Are they even still in business?

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It was acquired by LifeTouch. The last studio was closed in 2011, according to the google.

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I had no idea. I was just GenX flexing.

"It's the free market", "there are plenty of other photographers" and "why do you care so much?" are the closest I'm going to get to a concession I suppose. I'll take it.

They're school pictures. Unless they sent a message out telling kids to wear their best underwear and make sure their butthole is clean, it's probably not a problem. People have gone beyond the rational thought stage of this.

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I sure hope you don't use Microsoft products or support any company that uses them.

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Reminds me of an Aziz Ansari bit where he says he'll no longer listen to R Kelly songs. But cutting out Michael Jackson is a bridge too far.

Most people aren't capable of thinking rationally when emotions might be involved.

Although in situations like this I think it's a double whammy. "Don't rape kids" is such an easy hill to plant a flag on that some people will take it to extremes in order to proclaim their virtue. Which is how a lot of these conspiracies start.

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You're surprised that parents don't want their kids photos taken by a company ran by a pedophile? Are you also surprised that farmers want to keep foxes out of their henhouse?

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The guy has been gone from the company for ~5 years.

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What if you don't want to support the businesses of pedophiles? Is that a good enough reason, or does the actual photographer need to be a pedophile?

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So, if an employee of let's say Bank of America gets arrested for child rape, does that mean the entire company is guilty and should be boycotted and shut down?

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You're being obtuse. Your argument is ridiculous. There's clearly a difference a Bank of America employee (like a teller) and the CEO of the company, but you already know that. It's clear that Leon Black is no longer the CEO of Apollo, but has he divested of all ownership? If not then he still has a financial tie to Lifetouch.

There's a reason why the Weinstein Company went bankrupt and there's a reason why Subway removed Jared Fogle as a spokesman. These were high profile people, just like Leon Black.

There's a difference between not wanting to support a business that unknowingly hired a low-level employee that was a pedophile, and not wanting to support a business that was founded and run by a pedophile. Hope this helps.

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This is not the situation in the OP. This is a CEO of a company that owned another company that, finally, bought Lifetouch. The guy never owned nor worked for Lifetouch, let alone founded it. hth

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I'm sure there are other photography companies that schools can use. It's strange that you're falling all over yourself to support this one. Strange hill to die on.

It's pretty simple in my book. Was Leon Black or the company he founded ever associated with Lifetouch and did he ever receive monetary benefit from the association? If so, can't hurt to distance oneself. This is just my opinion. If you don't mind the association, then support the company. It's a free country.

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Clutch those pearls harder…as others have said, Microsoft says hello…will you be boycotting those products as well?

Easy solution. Just assume any big business participating in child photography is a bunch of pedos.

If the pearl clutchers on this thread really feel strongly about not financially benefiting this guy, then surely they don't own any mutual funds that contain Microsoft or Tesla right? Right?

I mean...if you're going to take that stand and not support any of these names, then actually bone up and do it. Divest all of your holdings that, in any way, are connected to Musk, Gates, Black, or any of the other names listed.

Yeah....you won't.

Your comment exemplifies the emotional nature of the average American. It's not a good thing.

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Most people aren't capable of thinking rationally when emotions might be involved.

Although in situations like this I think it's a double whammy. "Don't rape kids" is such an easy hill to plant a flag on that some people will take it to extremes in order to proclaim their virtue. Which is how a lot of these conspiracies start.

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And there are already a million because of all the bull**** in the Epstein files.

All of the "tips" that were quickly found to be "not credible" are still believed to be 100% true by the Epsteiners.

They have turned Epstein into something on the order of Hydra and Spectre combined.

The one conspiracy theory actually mentioned on this thread is that Lifetouch is using these school photos to setup a secret database were pedos can go "shopping" for kids who will then be abducted and provided to said pedo.

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You're surprised that parents don't want their kids photos taken by a company ran by a pedophile? Are you also surprised that farmers want to keep foxes out of their henhouse?

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The guy has been gone from the company for ~5 years.

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What if you don't want to support the businesses of pedophiles? Is that a good enough reason, or does the actual photographer need to be a pedophile?

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So, if an employee of let's say Bank of America gets arrested for child rape, does that mean the entire company is guilty and should be boycotted and shut down?

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You're being obtuse. Your argument is ridiculous. There's clearly a difference a Bank of America employee (like a teller) and the CEO of the company, but you already know that. It's clear that Leon Black is no longer the CEO of Apollo, but has he divested of all ownership? If not then he still has a financial tie to Lifetouch.

There's a reason why the Weinstein Company went bankrupt and there's a reason why Subway removed Jared Fogle as a spokesman. These were high profile people, just like Leon Black.

There's a difference between not wanting to support a business that unknowingly hired a low-level employee that was a pedophile, and not wanting to support a business that was founded and run by a pedophile. Hope this helps.

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This is not the situation in the OP. This is a CEO of a company that owned another company that, finally, bought Lifetouch. The guy never owned nor worked for Lifetouch, let alone founded it. hth

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I'm sure there are other photography companies that schools can use. It's strange that you're falling all over yourself to support this one. Strange hill to die on.

It's pretty simple in my book. Was Leon Black or the company he founded ever associated with Lifetouch and did he ever receive monetary benefit from the association? If so, can't hurt to distance oneself. This is just my opinion. If you don't mind the association, then support the company. It's a free country.

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Clutch those pearls harder…as others have said, Microsoft says hello…will you be boycotting those products as well?

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It's not that deep, bud. Maybe the school board calls a meeting and says instead of going with Lifetouch, we will be using Jostens, Strawbridge, Cady, Dorian, or a myriad of other companies that provide photography services.

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You're surprised that parents don't want their kids photos taken by a company ran by a pedophile? Are you also surprised that farmers want to keep foxes out of their henhouse?

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The company isn't "run by a pedophile". Good grief.

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I don't think that's the point, these parents dont want to support a company whose owner / CEO is connected to that guy, nothing wrong with that, its no different than people not drinking bud light because they went all woke on everyone, or using Target the WOKE idiots. its a moral issues for these parents and I think its 120 % their right to have that type of moral issue.

Now will anything actually change? I doubt it, but they can cause some problems down the road "after the fact" and they probably will ...

basically they are setting off these parents moral gauge ... maybe we need more people like them.. too many of us dont look at stuff like that (including me!)

Opt out of having your kid in the photo. No one looks at those photos after the first day you get them back. Can't believe how much money we spent on kids' photos only to have them in a box....