Capt. Augustus McCrae said:

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As someone who exited from the military 5 years ago, the amount of people who looked at me wide eyes when I told them I wasn't going to play the disability system was 100%. They couldn't believe that I wouldn't play their fraud game.

Not to mention that I know many other veterans in real life who shouldn't be milking their fellow taxpayers when very little is actually wrong with them.

This is not an attack on those that ACTUALLY became disabled in the military, but the massive fraud must stop. It won't be a popular political decision, but we need reform because the current system is RIFE with people who don't deserve an extra monthly check.

This is one of the hills I'll die on due to overwhelming personal experience. I immediately lose respect for any fellow veteran who starts talking about how they gamed the system to get a check.

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Good for you, need more like you.

I'm trying to think if I've ever met a veteran that hasn't mentioned their disability check.

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Unless I see missing limbs or an eye patch, I'm pretty convinced fraud occurred if their rating is over about 10%.

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This may be the dumbest take on this thread to date.

Can't wait for you to explain the apparent superhuman ability you must possess that enables you to observe and diagnosis all the damage absorbed by the human body. A Marine medical marvel!

What a crock.....

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There are large variations in PTSD ratings. Can range from 0, 10, 30, 50, 70, or 100. Most I see are in the 10 to 30 range. 50 isn't common, 70 rare, and 100 is almost a unicorn.

For example, 10% is

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Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events).

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Occupational and social impairment, with deficiencies in most areas, such as work, school, family relations, judgment, thinking, or mood, due to such symptoms as: suicidal ideation, obsessional rituals which interfere with routine activities; speech intermittently illogical, obscure, or irrelevant; near-continuous panic or depression affecting the ability to function independently, appropriately and effectively; impaired impulse control (such as unprovoked irritability with periods of violence); spatial disorientation; neglect of personal appearance and hygiene; difficulty in adapting to stressful circumstances (including work or a work-like setting); inability to establish and maintain effective relationships

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Love the edumication. Seriously.

Those poor unicorns, man. I've had staff tell me about their significant others who had PTSD and got the 100% disability. One of them thought the police outside (regular patrol) were stalking to kill him. He died when he went out to confront them with his gun pointed at them.

Such a tragedy. People like him are very much not the ones I'm talking about.

You also need to account for total ratings and what is called secondary claims. For example, someone may be rated 50% for PTSD. However, they may have other conditions tied to the PTSD such sleep disorder, chronic migraines, gastrointestinal issues, etc. These would then be filed secondary under the primary PTSD rating. So yes, they have PTSD and are 100% but the other conditions contribute to that total. This also doesn't account for other non related ratings. Chances are, if someone has a PTSD rating, especially from combat or training trauma, they will have other issues as well. A single instance of PTSD causing 100% is extremely rare.

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So this explains why ever other car on the freeway has DV plates. Years ago, it was a unicorn in the wild to see DV plates. Now days, family of family have them on their cars.

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Wander down to Schertz, Cibolo, and Universal City just northeast of San Antonio. That's the Land of DV Plates.

Damn, it's worse than I even mentioned earlier. Not even noon here and a hundred new responses. This takes the number one spot for me then. Above teacher pay and benefits and bulldogs as pets for rage bait on F16.

Good Lord, this board is absolutely triggered by the VA. I don't say that lightly but the slightest mention of it and threads immediately, and I mean IMMEDIATELY, go off rails with just non stop *****ing. And I say that because it's not even constructive *****ing about whatever the actual OP topic is. It's the weird gossipy "I know a guy…" or "I hear stories…" kind that Karens thrive on.

I'm not mad or upset or anything, this is just me dictating my observations like I am at a zoo studying the wildlife. It's fascinating, honestly.

Also, proves my earlier point though about STFU'ing IRL. Like I said, people get weird, aggressive, and even vindictive out of f'ing nowhere about it. No matter the amount or cause. Seen it more than a few times second hand now over the years. Vast majority not even "broadcasting" it but not lying when it is found out by some other means either. It's like the lottery effect or something. Makes people bitter AF.

The problem is disability is looked by some many as a supplemental income plan for ex-military members, to be gamed..... Not as a disability plan.

If it's really more about providing some sort of pension following service, rename/reform it to look like that and provide disability on top of that to those who are disabled/impaired from working elsewhere.

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We spend $200 billion a year on VA disability payments. I wouldn't be surprised if half or more is fraud at this point. This is where DOGE should have spent most of their time.

BTW, no one should be surprised by any of this, targeting DOD and VA bloat was a key part of Project 2025.

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What do you consider "fraud"? Example?

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I think the concept that "veterans deserve everything" is ridiculous. It's like saying you deserve a military discount everywhere you go, or state tax exemption of your retired pay, or property tax exemption based on VA rating. You don't deserve those things. They are things to be grateful for, to the businesses that offer them or the state and local governments that enact them into law. None of those things are deserved.

What veterans deserve is the compensation that they are obligated to by the contract that they signed with the federal government, including those duly voted into law by the Congress that taxpayers elect. That includes pay, healthcare while serving and potentially after based on specific conditions, educational benefits earned through time in service as enacted in federal law, the ability to secure a home loan partially guaranteed by the VA once you meet criteria, etc. It means a retirement pension for those that honorably fulfill the required terms of service. And it means compensation and pension for those conditions caused by military service that are codified in law as affecting a veterans quality of life, life expectancy, physical and mental health, employability, etc.

Those things aren't "deserved". They are OBLIGATED by law in the service contract between a service member and the government.

It's no different than the contract between you and your employer where you provide labor and services in exchange for specific pay and benefits. Some of those benefits are extraordinary in comparison, but so is what is asked of service members. The vast majority of civilians will never be asked to willingly lay down their life in the advancement of company policy. That potential, to varying degrees, is there for EVERY service member who signs a contract with the government.

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Good point. Very fair.

Now, let's change the contract so every future service person has to live their lives just like everyone else does, good and bad.

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That's a really quick way to either end up back with a draft, a massive increase in PMCs/contractors (which leads to different potentials for fraud/graft) or a massive increase in payroll expenses. Private Military contractors make 4-10 times what actual service members make because they don't get those benefits. And good luck building a professional NCO or officer corps without offering a tangible reason to stay in service.

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So this explains why ever other car on the freeway has DV plates. Years ago, it was a unicorn in the wild to see DV plates. Now days, family of family have them on their cars.

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Wander down to Schertz, Cibolo, and Universal City just northeast of San Antonio. That's the Land of DV Plates.

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That's because a huge number of vets either continue to work in and around JBSA, move to TX in general and SA in particular because the state is vet friendly, or go to the VA hospital and it's 9 (I think) outpatient clinics.

That recruiting office was open to everyone.

28 years
4 deployments
11A

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Psycho Bunny said:

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So this explains why ever other car on the freeway has DV plates. Years ago, it was a unicorn in the wild to see DV plates. Now days, family of family have them on their cars.

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Wander down to Schertz, Cibolo, and Universal City just northeast of San Antonio. That's the Land of DV Plates.

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Oh I know all to well. Last time I visited SA that's about all I saw. Not saying vets dont need those plates. Just like handicap tags, they too get abused like a mother F.

My brother is a perfect example of VA abuse. Dude washed out of the Marine Corps back in 1997 with a "medical injury". Dude has worked at UPS, loading dock at Walmart, worked as a jailer, and was a street cop, till he was fired. Dont get me started on all the out door sports he played after coming home. Still collecting that government check though.

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maverick2076 said:

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I think the concept that "veterans deserve everything" is ridiculous. It's like saying you deserve a military discount everywhere you go, or state tax exemption of your retired pay, or property tax exemption based on VA rating. You don't deserve those things. They are things to be grateful for, to the businesses that offer them or the state and local governments that enact them into law. None of those things are deserved.

What veterans deserve is the compensation that they are obligated to by the contract that they signed with the federal government, including those duly voted into law by the Congress that taxpayers elect. That includes pay, healthcare while serving and potentially after based on specific conditions, educational benefits earned through time in service as enacted in federal law, the ability to secure a home loan partially guaranteed by the VA once you meet criteria, etc. It means a retirement pension for those that honorably fulfill the required terms of service. And it means compensation and pension for those conditions caused by military service that are codified in law as affecting a veterans quality of life, life expectancy, physical and mental health, employability, etc.

Those things aren't "deserved". They are OBLIGATED by law in the service contract between a service member and the government.

It's no different than the contract between you and your employer where you provide labor and services in exchange for specific pay and benefits. Some of those benefits are extraordinary in comparison, but so is what is asked of service members. The vast majority of civilians will never be asked to willingly lay down their life in the advancement of company policy. That potential, to varying degrees, is there for EVERY service member who signs a contract with the government.

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Good point. Very fair.

Now, let's change the contract so every future service person has to live their lives just like everyone else does, good and bad.

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That's a really quick way to either end up back with a draft, a massive increase in PMCs/contractors (which leads to different potentials for fraud/graft) or a massive increase in payroll expenses. Private Military contractors make 4-10 times what actual service members make because they don't get those benefits. And good luck building a professional NCO or officer corps without offering a tangible reason to stay in service.

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That's a lot to take into consideration, and all are valid. That doesn't mean things can't change, even if in increments, if it's an issue that's wanting to be improved.

Do I have the answers? Of course not, but I do know that the system could be improved. I said from day one of DOGE, that if they were wanting to make real changes, no department or agency or people should be excluded from them.

This is just another place to look and improve.

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True, but at the same time, my coworker had VA cover an expensive fertility treatment that was in no way connected to her military disability while my brother-in-law and his wife can't get their fertility treatment paid for by insurance and are having to pony up $10 grand or more. When people see that, they want in on the racket.

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The only way the VA is paying for that is if they have a service-connected disability that prevents a woman from having a child. I see nothing wrong with that.

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She's my coworker, so I won't give any details, but like anything subjective, it's all in how you sell it. I have another coworker who is an Army veteran (and big-time Democrat) who was also disgusted with VA disability fraud. He said he knew guys who offered to help him get on board because they knew the language to when applying that would make it more likely to get approved.

I don't disagree. The issues and problems are not as simple as many posters here make them out to be. Neither are the solutions. It's nice to engage with someone willing to actually read a post and consider what it says before responding thoughtfully. It's a rare thing on this (and many other) topics.

I wouldn't have a problem with qualification for VA compensation requiring at least honorable completion of a first full term of service, just like eligibility for the VA home loan does. That would immediately eliminate some of what, on the surface at least, are some of the most egregious cases of misuse.

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What do you consider coaching? When someone comes to me I ask for 3 things.

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If you tell someone all the things that count as a percentage and encourage someone to add all of those in there, knowing some or all are not service connected, that is coaching them. It's honestly fraud.

Hearing loss, back pain, and many other ailments may be service related, but may not be at all. Aging happens to all of us. The body breaks down. Attributing aging to military service is completely dishonest.

And you are smart enough to know what is legitimate and what is not. Integrity is important. And becoming rarer.

You make good points. Looking at the ratings tables and deciding what you can embellish and fit your experience to is unethical and honestly fraud.

But that's why I ask what is wrong symptom wise and when it happened. And medical records.

For example if someone just got out and they did deployments to the Middle East and I've seen they've gone to urgent care more than once in the past year for a sinus infection I'm suggesting they file for sinusitis. Simple things like that. Medical symptom. Tell the examiner the truth, don't embellish. Let him diagnose and see how it applies.

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True, but at the same time, my coworker had VA cover an expensive fertility treatment that was in no way connected to her military disability while my brother-in-law and his wife can't get their fertility treatment paid for by insurance and are having to pony up $10 grand or more. When people see that, they want in on the racket.

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The only way the VA is paying for that is if they have a service-connected disability that prevents a woman from having a child. I see nothing wrong with that.

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She's my coworker, so I won't give any details, but like anything subjective, it's all in how you sell it. I have another coworker who is an Army veteran (and big-time Democrat) who was also disgusted with VA disability fraud. He said he knew guys who offered to help him get on board because they knew the language to when applying that would make it more likely to get approved.

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Here's the thing. Having someone help you understand how to explain your symptoms to the examiner is not fraud. Let's take a hypothetical:

2 guys, both Army, both paratroopers, have the same lower back injury from jumping out of Army planes.

Guy #1 gets no help, does no research, and doesn't use a VSO to prepare his claim. He doesn't submit his medical records to support his claim. He goes to his VA exam and tells the doctor, "it hurts when I stand too long or bend over".

Guy #2 sees an accredited VSO who helps him file his claim and make sure he submits the valid medical documentation he has of his back injury. He reads the questionnaire and talks to other vets to understand what the examiners are going to ask him. He goes to the examiner and says, "I hurt my back on a night jump with my unit in July 2010. I went to the doctor and had physical therapy and X-rays. I aggravated the injury on a second training jump in January 2011. An MRI showed 3 ruptured discs in my lower spine. Further treatment has not improved my injury, and medication does not fully alleviate my pain. I cannot stand for more than 30 minutes or sit for more than an hour without significant pain. I cannot pick up my 5 year old daughter. I am restricted from most physical activity at work. I am unable to maintain my physical fitness levels due to the limitations from this injury. The medication I take also gives me regular constipation and insomnia that leaves me sleepless at least twice a week."

Guy 1 gets his claim denied. Guy 2 is rated 20% for his back, 10% for chronic constipation, and 20% for insomnia. His overall rating is 40% (not 50%…VA math)

Both guys told the complete truth. Neither one lied, exaggerated, or misrepresented his records. Both are rated accurately based on what they provided to their examiner. Yet many on here would call guy #2 a fraud.

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There are large variations in PTSD ratings. Can range from 0, 10, 30, 50, 70, or 100. Most I see are in the 10 to 30 range. 50 isn't common, 70 rare, and 100 is almost a unicorn.

For example, 10% is

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Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events).

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I will probably get roasted for this, but 10% sounds like Life and i bet 90% of the population could make a case for most or all of those, military service or not.

And Tesla, you are 100% condoning fraud with your attitude, whether you care or admit it or not. You are justifying your behavior by saying it's not your fault that you have to willingly go along with the other bad behavior.

I think I'll jump in on this thread, both as a veteran, and as a recently retired VA employee. [Thanks, DOGE!]

Will respond to several previous posts individually so they make more sense.

Forgot to add that I have never applied to the VA for Compensation & Pension [AKA C&P], though I probably should look into it for my hearing loss that I know occurred while flying in jet aircraft as a Naval Flight Officer.

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Please explain why we, the taxpayers, should pay someone for the rest of their lives because of a scar related to a voluntary pregnancy just because of where they were employed at the time?

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I'll just be addressing the bolded section.
There is a HUGE difference between employment in the private sector and the civilian side of Fed, state, and local gov. When you are off the clock in those jobs, you are not subject to the rules and regs of your employer.

In the military [on Active Duty], we belong to the armed forces lock, stock & barrel 24/7/365, and are under the UCMJ the entire time. It's a completely different circumstance to civilians.

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Teslag said:

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There are large variations in PTSD ratings. Can range from 0, 10, 30, 50, 70, or 100. Most I see are in the 10 to 30 range. 50 isn't common, 70 rare, and 100 is almost a unicorn.

For example, 10% is

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Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events).

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I will probably get roasted for this, but 10% sounds like Life and i bet 90% of the population could make a case for most or all of those, military service or not.

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You can certainly have the opinion that 90% of the civilian population has PTSD enough to rate a 10% rating. But that 90% didn't get it in service of the US tax payer while carrying out US policy, under a contract with the US Government that promises support for their injuries incurred in service as codified by US law. And that's a really big difference.

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It's not just direct benefits. Look at the tax exemptions. Vehicle registration and property taxes are waived or significantly reduced.

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First, all of those are created at the state/local level, and have nothing to do with the VA [which stands for Veterans Affairs BTW].

I imagine the thought process is that while deployed, we spent 6, 8 10 months, sometimes much more away from our families.

And if folks are mad, upset, think it's unfair, or whatever term you want to call it, you were certainly free to have joined, and you would have reaped the same 'benefits'.

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So this explains why ever other car on the freeway has DV plates. Years ago, it was a unicorn in the wild to see DV plates. Now days, family of family have them on their cars.

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They get reduced vehicle registration rates and get to park in handicap parking spots with those plates too. It always makes me laugh when I see a lifted truck in a handicap parking spot.

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This is all via statute on the state level, and has nothing to do with Dept of VA benefits.
Write to your state congressmen and have them change the law if you disagree.

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It's definitely a mixed bag. I know a guy who got a significant disability percentage for blowing out his knee playing basketball at lunch on post stateside.

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As I stated previously, in the military [on Active Duty], we belong to the armed forces lock, stock & barrel 24/7/365, and are under the UCMJ the entire time. So even though a soldier is not standing duty, he is still in the military. He might not even be allowed a pass to leave the military post/base/station, but has some unassigned time to spend on his own.

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There are large variations in PTSD ratings. Can range from 0, 10, 30, 50, 70, or 100. Most I see are in the 10 to 30 range. 50 isn't common, 70 rare, and 100 is almost a unicorn.

For example, 10% is

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Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events).

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I will probably get roasted for this, but 10% sounds like Life and i bet 90% of the population could make a case for most or all of those, military service or not.

And Tesla, you are 100% condoning fraud with your attitude, whether you care or admit it or not. You are justifying your behavior by saying it's not your fault that you have to willingly go along with the other bad behavior.

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Again, fraud has a very distinct definition. What specifically is the fraud I'm condoning?

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True, but at the same time, my coworker had VA cover an expensive fertility treatment that was in no way connected to her military disability while my brother-in-law and his wife can't get their fertility treatment paid for by insurance and are having to pony up $10 grand or more. When people see that, they want in on the racket.

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You could have been in on the so called 'racket', all you had to do was choose to join the military. That's the great thing about the US, we all have choices. Now all those choices end up with [sometimes] different outcomes, but hey, that's life.

Now, I know nothing about what fertility treatment the VA covers, so can't say if what she said or you heard is the full story.

And I'm sorry to hear about your B-I-L's family.

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True, but at the same time, my coworker had VA cover an expensive fertility treatment that was in no way connected to her military disability while my brother-in-law and his wife can't get their fertility treatment paid for by insurance and are having to pony up $10 grand or more. When people see that, they want in on the racket.

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You could have been in on the so called 'racket', all you had to do was choose to join the military. That's the great thing about the US, we all have choices. Now all those choices end up with [sometimes] different outcomes, but hey, that's life.

Now, I know nothing about what fertility treatment the VA covers, so can't say if what she said or you heard is the full story.

And I'm sorry to hear about your B-I-L's family.

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If a veteran has a 100% VA rating, they are eligible to receive all their health care through the VA, whether it is service connected or not. It is a benefit only offered to those with 100% ratings. So that is a legitimate explanation as to how those treatments could be covered by the VA.

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I simply don't understand how anyone can look at the VA and think "See what a great job they do?! Let's expand this to 400 million people!"

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Depends. The rural VA clinics are absolutely fantastic. The main hospitals not so much.

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It is totally VA dependent.
The ABQ main hospital is very very good, as I believe the CBOC's are.

This. The Houston VA is a nightmare. San Antonio has a mostly good rep. The VA clinic in Tulsa is outstanding. The hospital in Temple, not so much.

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There are large variations in PTSD ratings. Can range from 0, 10, 30, 50, 70, or 100. Most I see are in the 10 to 30 range. 50 isn't common, 70 rare, and 100 is almost a unicorn.

For example, 10% is

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Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events).

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I will probably get roasted for this, but 10% sounds like Life and i bet 90% of the population could make a case for most or all of those, military service or not.

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You can certainly have the opinion that 90% of the civilian population has PTSD enough to rate a 10% rating. But that 90% didn't get it in service of the US tax payer while carrying out US policy, under a contract with the US Government that promises support for their injuries incurred in service as codified by US law. And that's a really big difference.

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What I am saying, in my opinion, is the symptoms above which aren't too terribly different from a bad hangover shouldn't qualify anybody at anytime under any circumstances for any kind of payment.

When you say "incurred in service" is that "while in" or "because of", which I think is a lot of the debate on this thread?

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If you never took the oath and put the uniform on, quit your damn b****ing about benefits given to Veterans.
It's true that there are some veterans who take advantage of the system, but the vast majority of Veterans earned what they are given as compensation for illnesses and injuries that are a result of their time in service; especially those who served in combat

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VAST majority earned them?

Cut finger off wood working in your free time, off base, on leave? Taxpayer money for life.
Broke ankle playing basketball at the gym off base in your free time? Taxpayer money for life.
Ripped your knee doing a dirtbike jump in your free time off base? Taxpayer money for life.
Slice open your hand skinning an elk in your free time? Taxpayer money for life.

The stories are unending.

I would say the VAST majority have not earned them. And I would say the ones that need the most help, don't get it.

And it is my money they are stealing, I'll ***** all I want, even thought I never put on the uniform.

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Are these backed by factual information? Or are they anecdotes you heard from someone or read about online?

And to reiterate the point, in the military [on Active Duty], we belong to the armed forces lock, stock & barrel 24/7/365, and are under the UCMJ the entire time.Whether we are off base, on leave, or using a 2-3 day pass, we can be recalled ANY TIME to go in harms way, leave spouse, family, and children, and back in the late 80's when I was active duty, the only communication was via letter, or maybe a VCR tape.

So yes, most any activity that resulted in an accident would be covered because we were continuously under orders, no matter what we were doing.
Honestly sounds like sour grapes to me, along with the stupidly hyperbolic statements you posted.

If you honestly think there is fraud going on, then call the VA OIG and report it. https://www.oversight.gov/inspectors-general/department-veterans-affairs-oig

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True, but at the same time, my coworker had VA cover an expensive fertility treatment that was in no way connected to her military disability while my brother-in-law and his wife can't get their fertility treatment paid for by insurance and are having to pony up $10 grand or more. When people see that, they want in on the racket.

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You could have been in on the so called 'racket', all you had to do was choose to join the military. That's the great thing about the US, we all have choices. Now all those choices end up with [sometimes] different outcomes, but hey, that's life.

Now, I know nothing about what fertility treatment the VA covers, so can't say if what she said or you heard is the full story.

And I'm sorry to hear about your B-I-L's family.

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I'm technically not a veteran because I only enlisted in the Reserves, but I did choose to join. I wound up in the Navy right at the end of the Cold War and just as fighting in the desert was becoming all the rage. They weren't calling up sonar technicians.

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Unless I see missing limbs or an eye patch, I'm pretty convinced fraud occurred if their rating is over about 10%.

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Most of the 22 Veterans a day committing suicide everyday suffer from invisible scars. PTSD is real

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I know a few people who it is very much real. So much so that they can't hold a job, no matter how hard they try. For them, it makes sense for them to get benefits.

To those who have the same diagnosis yet still work 40+ hours a week and use their check as a second one to what they paid from their job, while living their vida loca, not so much,

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And I know numerous folks who worked over 40 hours a week, because we are "fixed", with meds who have gone on to commit suicide. I in fact know more folks who have committed suicide than I do those that were killed during a deployment. Just because we can work a 40 hour does not mean we are fixed, we are just good at pretending we are.