Denver Mayor Orders Police to Detain ICE Agents if They Use "Excessive Force"

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Denver Democratic Mayor Mike Johnston announced an executive order Thursday directing city authorities to detain an ICE agent considered to have used excessive force against or who "assaults or shoots or kills" civilians in the Mile High City.

The announcement comes weeks after Philadelphia's top prosecutor made headlines by likening ICE agents to Adolf Hitler's Geheime Staatspolizei and warning of similar repercussions that have yet to be put into practice, as Johnston's now have.

"To protect Denver, our first responders will always provide life-saving aid to anyone who is injured, no matter who injured them," Johnston said on the steps of the city government's plaza downtown.

"No ICE officer gets to stand in our way of saving someone's life. To protect Denver, if we see any ICE officer using excessive force against a Denver resident, we will step in to detain that officer and remove them from the situation," Johnston said, adding federal agents should be held to the same standard as city police officers.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/denver-mayor-orders-ice-agents-detained-assault-shoot-residents

Yeah, good luck with that.

The mayor clearly thinks he has authority over federal agents who are carrying out their duties, which he does not.

The real goal is to provoke a confrontation between ICE and Denver PD. If it results in gunfire, that would be the preferred out come because it would give the Democrats talking points to ride until the election.
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mayor needs to be arrested for obstruction
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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I have extreme disdain for DPD. The lot of them are power hungry trash piles. They might actually try to arrest federal agents. Would love to be there to watch the results.
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Cut off all federal funding to Denver.
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So lib mayors want to defund and do away with police except when they need them to **** with federal agents? Yep, sounds about right
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Burrus86 said:

Cut off all federal funding to Denver.

Need more buses of illegal aliens sent to Denver.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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Will get struck down by a federal judge due to the federal supremacy clause in the constitution.

States and cities can't regulate the feds.
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Denver is a **** hole

https://www.city-journal.org/article/california-colorado-population-economy?skip=1

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And now blue Colorado is starting to turn into California.

The state's remarkable demographic reversal provides the clearest evidence of this transformation. Recent Census numbers show Colorado losing more than 12,000 residents to other states last year, while its total population growth is anemic. The metro area of Denver, once a city with buzz as hot as Austin or Nashville, is now growing more slowly than Midwestern cities like Indianapolis and Columbus. The state's labor force has also started shrinkingsomething the Denver Post notes has "never happened outside a severe recession or economic shock like the COVID-19 pandemic."
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Make Denver the target city NOW
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MemphisAg1 said:

Will get struck down by a federal judge due to the federal supremacy clause in the constitution.

States and cities can't regulate the feds.

So does local PD have no recourse if they witness a federal agent committing a criminal act while carrying out their duties?
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Burrus86 said:

Cut off all federal funding to Denver.


Bob or John?


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I guess the mayor is hoping his cops are stupid enough to put their career on the line to illegally interfere with federal agents for his political gain

Don't know too many cops who like being used as the mayors political pawns
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Quincey P. Morris said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Will get struck down by a federal judge due to the federal supremacy clause in the constitution.

States and cities can't regulate the feds.

So does local PD have no recourse if they witness a federal agent committing a criminal act while carrying out their duties?


Enforcing federal law is not a crime no matter what Reddit told you
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Maroon Dawn said:

Quincey P. Morris said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Will get struck down by a federal judge due to the federal supremacy clause in the constitution.

States and cities can't regulate the feds.

So does local PD have no recourse if they witness a federal agent committing a criminal act while carrying out their duties?


Enforcing federal law is not a crime no matter what Reddit told you

Didn't say it was. They don't have carte blanche to do whatever they want though. So again, if local PD views their actions as criminal and outside the purview of their duties as federal officers; what are they supposed to do?
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Quincey P. Morris said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Quincey P. Morris said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Will get struck down by a federal judge due to the federal supremacy clause in the constitution.

States and cities can't regulate the feds.

So does local PD have no recourse if they witness a federal agent committing a criminal act while carrying out their duties?


Enforcing federal law is not a crime no matter what Reddit told you

Didn't say it was. They don't have carte blanche to do whatever they want though. So again, if local PD views their actions as criminal and outside the purview of their duties as federal officers; what are they supposed to do?


Can you provide an example, perhaps something ICE or Border Patrol has actually done somewhere else, that would warrant such a response from local authorities?
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IIIHorn said:

Burrus86 said:

Cut off all federal funding to Denver.


Bob or John?

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Burrus86 said:

IIIHorn said:

Burrus86 said:

Cut off all federal funding to Denver.


Bob or John?

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DAYUM …

You one upped my comment with ease.

Well done!


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What's that got to do with anything? It's a hypothetical question. Some of the initial posts here seem to posit that any notion of the local PD acting on what they may view as criminal acts by a federal officer is outside their purview.
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Hang a few Democrat governors and mayors and that **** would stop
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Colorado used to be wonderful.
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richardag said:

Burrus86 said:

Cut off all federal funding to Denver.

Need more buses of illegal aliens sent to Denver.



Those don't exist anymore now that we have common sense leadership
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Denver PD ain't going to do anything

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Quincey P. Morris said:

What's that got to do with anything? It's a hypothetical question. Some of the initial posts here seem to posit that any notion of the local PD acting on what they may view as criminal acts by a federal officer is outside their purview.


Because its not in their purview to judge what might be excessive on the enforcement of federal law, except in an extremely rare case

Theres already legal remedies if excessive force is used.

The first time a local cop attempts to detain a federal officer will go very poorly for the local cop
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Who?mikejones! said:

Quincey P. Morris said:

What's that got to do with anything? It's a hypothetical question. Some of the initial posts here seem to posit that any notion of the local PD acting on what they may view as criminal acts by a federal officer is outside their purview.


Because its not in their purview to judge what might be excessive on the enforcement of federal law, except in an extremely rare case

Theres already legal remedies if excessive force is used.

The first time a local cop attempts to detain a federal officer will go very poorly for the local cop

So, in the moment, we're good with a federal officer being essentially able to act with impunity unless another federal officer steps in?

I'm also not sure why it would go poorly to be honest. We're talking about a law enforcement officer. If he believes that he has acted within the law then there shouldn't be an issue if he's detained provided we're not talking about a wave of mundane issues being inflated to be problems that aren't.
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Gonna need some examples of "act with impunity."

Again, and im not sure why this is difficult, but federal law enforcement enforces federal law as is their constitutional duty. Local pd have little to no authority to judge how that law is enforced.

If there is a problem, legal remedies already exist to deal with it.

It would go poorly because the local cop would almost assuredly be arrested themselves for interfering with federal law enforcement
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Who?mikejones! said:

Quincey P. Morris said:

What's that got to do with anything? It's a hypothetical question. Some of the initial posts here seem to posit that any notion of the local PD acting on what they may view as criminal acts by a federal officer is outside their purview.


Because its not in their purview to judge what might be excessive on the enforcement of federal law, except in an extremely rare case

Theres already legal remedies if excessive force is used.

The first time a local cop attempts to detain a federal officer will go very poorly for the local cop

That might be entertaining. But that is exactly what the Dems want.
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Quincey P. Morris said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Will get struck down by a federal judge due to the federal supremacy clause in the constitution.

States and cities can't regulate the feds.

So does local PD have no recourse if they witness a federal agent committing a criminal act while carrying out their duties?

No. Federal agents can't be arrested by state/local cops in the performance of their federal jobs.

If they're off-duty and violating state and local laws, absolutely.
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Quincey P. Morris said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Quincey P. Morris said:

What's that got to do with anything? It's a hypothetical question. Some of the initial posts here seem to posit that any notion of the local PD acting on what they may view as criminal acts by a federal officer is outside their purview.


Because its not in their purview to judge what might be excessive on the enforcement of federal law, except in an extremely rare case

Theres already legal remedies if excessive force is used.

The first time a local cop attempts to detain a federal officer will go very poorly for the local cop

So, in the moment, we're good with a federal officer being essentially able to act with impunity unless another federal officer steps in?

I'm also not sure why it would go poorly to be honest. We're talking about a law enforcement officer. If he believes that he has acted within the law then there shouldn't be an issue if he's detained provided we're not talking about a wave of mundane issues being inflated to be problems that aren't.

Swing and a miss. Federal immigration law and its enforcement trump any BS law cartel supporting state and local minions try to enforce.
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Quincey P. Morris said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Quincey P. Morris said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Will get struck down by a federal judge due to the federal supremacy clause in the constitution.

States and cities can't regulate the feds.

So does local PD have no recourse if they witness a federal agent committing a criminal act while carrying out their duties?


Enforcing federal law is not a crime no matter what Reddit told you

Didn't say it was. They don't have carte blanche to do whatever they want though. So again, if local PD views their actions as criminal and outside the purview of their duties as federal officers; what are they supposed to do?

File a federal lawsuit or reach out to allies in federal positions who can perhaps exert influence. But they have no legal authority to restrain a federal officer in an active role of enforcing federal law. Very simple rule for a clear reason... you can't have state and local authorities interfering with the federal government in the enforcement of federal law.

If a federal officer is going rouge, he will be constrained by other federal authorities.

The Denver mayor's act is a solution in search of a problem. He's trying to score points with his local, liberal, voting base.
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This was decided way back in 1865, so far as im concerned
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Local PD: You are using excessive force, I'm placing you under arrest.

Federal LEO: F Off.

Local PD: OK. Sorry to bother you.


That's about how it will go. These virtue signaling do-gooder politicians fails to realize that the vast super majority of local PD and Sherriff cops more than likely support ICE and what they are doing and aren't about to judge or interfere with how they go about it.

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