whytho987654 said:

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Time for 12 month finance options on groceries

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Na, easier to just open a learing center. Only takes a little paperwork and you don't even have to have anyone there.

And it pays a ton, so you may have money left over.

Ducks4brkfast said:

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The domestic steel mills have been raising prices like clockwork since Trump put on 232 restrictions in his first term led by Robert Lighthizer (career long trade attorney representing the steel industry). For no other reason than they have #zero foreign competition. Absolute windfall for them.

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FIFY

This has been a decade long trend for the steel industry.

RAM is the killer right now

samurai_science said:

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RAM is the killer right now

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So, if I see RAM while walking down the street......cross the street!?

Dobro Turtlebane said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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Ducks4brkfast said:

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The domestic steel mills have been raising prices like clockwork since Liberation Day. For no other reason than they have #zero foreign competition. Absolute windfall for them.

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The proof that domestic steel mills have been raising prices is a commodities ticker tape which domestic steel mills have zero control over?

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Do you have any idea what a commodities index is?

Do you believe that oil companies are not impacted by the price of oil in commodities markets?

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The claim is domestic steel mills are raising prices on their own specifically due to the Trump tarrifs and they no longer have foreign competition.

He did not make a claim that steel prices are going up because material costs have increased which is what a commodities ticker tracker shows.

People are angry because, despite the alledgedly great numbers being reported by the .gov, people are losing their jobs and flailing to find a new one, and everything is getting more and more expensive.

It doesn't matter how the govt moves the piles around the board, most people care a lot more about the cost of groceries than cpi/ppi etc.

All most unhappy swing voters are seeing is this admin looking a lot like the last on spending, and things continuing to approach unsustainable cost of living.

You can boot strap and "learn a trade" all you want, you can't spend like drunken liberals while people's QOL downgrades and not expect to get ousted( even when the alternative is worse)

DrEvazanPhD said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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RAM in particular

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A dude on Glenn Beck's show yesterday said RAM that was $200 two years ago was close to a grand today, all due to data centers skarfing them up.

Quote:

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A dude on Glenn Beck's show yesterday said RAM that was $200 two years ago was close to a grand today, all due to data centers skarfing them up.

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Supply and demand. That makes sense to me.

Ag_of_08 said:

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People are angry because, despite the alledgedly great numbers being reported by the .gov, people are losing their jobs and flailing to find a new one, and everything is getting more and more expensive.

It doesn't matter how the govt moves the piles around the board, most people care a lot more about the cost of groceries than cpi/ppi etc.

All most unhappy swing voters are seeing is this admin looking a lot like the last on spending, and things continuing to approach unsustainable cost of living.

You can boot strap and "learn a trade" all you want, you can't spend like drunken liberals while people's QOL downgrades and not expect to get ousted( even when the alternative is worse)

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I'm not going to dispute too much of this, but if those same people think Democrats are going to make it any better then they are dumbasses in every sense of the word.

I guess if Elon is right money is going to be irrelevant pretty soon anyway. (Lol at that).

BTKAG97 said:

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I have 50+ years of personal history to know which party is better for me when it comes to affordability.

It's shocking that anyone can believe a Democrat will make life more affordable over a Republican in this day and age. How many blue states do we need to prove this belief false?

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I'm not sure anyone here disagrees. The left will make it even worse. What I'm saying is to take off the red tinted glasses and acknowledge the inflation is still burning through the middle class' net worth.

Anyone who thinks there is any difference between the mainline Dems and GOP probably should reconsider whether they are critical enough to cast a vote. With the exception of transgender ideology and MAYBE immigration, they are lock step on the key issues:

Owlagdad said:

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Mcdonald's coffee went from 19.90 to 22. 50 at Walmart. for 30 ounces. A big jump.
I enjoy it, but can go back to somebody's cheaper Columbian brand and just get used to it. Substitute good.
But for $22 I get 2.5 cups a day for a month, Im still way ahead of the Starbucks or even McDonalds restaurant crowds.

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You like the McDs coffee huh? I buy the Tim Hortons. Might have to give the McDs coffee a try. Didn't even know they sold it.

Both coffee and beef are up big time over the last year. I'm now spending $16 per lb for choice ribeyes at Costco.

lol. What's the butter for?

BigRobSA said:

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samurai_science said:

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RAM is the killer right now

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So, if I see RAM while walking down the street......cross the street!?

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Yes, he is so hot right now

halfastros81 said:

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lol. What's the butter for?

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They were out of Boy Butter?

javajaws said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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Why do you think that's due to AI? I think the only things affected by AI are stuff like GPUs and memory.

Most consumer electronics (think tvs, stereo stuff, etc.) are more affected by tariffs than AI.

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Anything that has any amount of RAM is impacted significantly by AI.

If your appliance / device / gadget has access to the internet, it has RAM.

The issue is so bad that many consumer electronics companies are bringing back "dumb" devices with no memory to avoid the product inflation.

All modern TVs have RAM.
Most modern stereos have access to the internet for streaming, and therefore have RAM.
Many home appliances, like washing machines, refrigerators, even ovens, have access to the internet and have RAM.

So, no, "most consumer electronics" are not more affected by tariffs than escalating RAM prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/02/nvidia-shift-ai-chip-shortages-threatening-to-hike-gadget-prices.html

Ag_of_08 said:

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People are angry because, despite the alledgedly great numbers being reported by the .gov, people are losing their jobs and flailing to find a new one, and everything is getting more and more expensive.

It doesn't matter how the govt moves the piles around the board, most people care a lot more about the cost of groceries than cpi/ppi etc.

All most unhappy swing voters are seeing is this admin looking a lot like the last on spending, and things continuing to approach unsustainable cost of living.

You can boot strap and "learn a trade" all you want, you can't spend like drunken liberals while people's QOL downgrades and not expect to get ousted( even when the alternative is worse)

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LIV blame Trump

Science Denier said:

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whytho987654 said:

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Time for 12 month finance options on groceries

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Na, easier to just open a learing center. Only takes a little paperwork and you don't even have to have anyone there.

And it pays a ton, so you may have money left over.

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Don't forget the required kickbacks to the Dems running the state

BusterAg said:

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javajaws said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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Why do you think that's due to AI? I think the only things affected by AI are stuff like GPUs and memory.

Most consumer electronics (think tvs, stereo stuff, etc.) are more affected by tariffs than AI.

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Anything that has any amount of RAM is impacted significantly by AI.

If your appliance / device / gadget has access to the internet, it has RAM.

The issue is so bad that many consumer electronics companies are bringing back "dumb" devices with no memory to avoid the product inflation.

All modern TVs have RAM.
Most modern stereos have access to the internet for streaming, and therefore have RAM.
Many home appliances, like washing machines, refrigerators, even ovens, have access to the internet and have RAM.

So, no, "most consumer electronics" are not more affected by tariffs than escalating RAM prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/02/nvidia-shift-ai-chip-shortages-threatening-to-hike-gadget-prices.html

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This is where they went nuts. I don't need my floormat to tell me when it's dirty. So dumb.

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YouBet said:

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Consumers regard that as too high because the Fed stubbornly maintains a 2% goal that is likely unrealistic at this point.

The larger problem that continues to get ignored is that inflation stacks. People are pissed because stuff doesn't cost what it did pre-Covid. We've taken double digit percentage cost increases every year for several years now on many things.

We aren't getting back to 2019 pricing. Doesn't matter who is in office.

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Agree with most of those comments. The one area I view a bit differently is we should still target 2% inflation instead of giving up on it because higher inflation is hideously destructive for most people unless you owe a lot of money and are young, in which case inflation can be your friend.

But I agree that we as a society aren't willing to make the change necessary to support a 2% inflation environment, which would involve cutting spending over time gradually to align with tax revenue and bending our national debt in a downward or flat direction.

Ain't happening because we're too addicted to free stuff from the government, and there are too many politicians who only care about retaining power and will gladly give us the free stuff. We are heading to hell in a hand basket, and higher inflation will be a key feature.

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Voters, like investors, are short-sighted. They don't vote for a better future. They vote for a better today.

Getting elected means freebies today, regardless of the impact 5, 10, or 50 years down the road. As long as the bill doesn't come due until the politician's term is over, they literally do not care. And this goes for all of them.

On the subject of tariffs- many foreign manufacturers' tariffs are being reimbursed by the government. That prevents US gaining traction in bringing jobs back here.

So, they are largely a new tax on consumers, and also tend to keep prices higher.

I don't have a huge problem with consumption taxes - as "everyone' pays as opposed to less than 50%.

But, as far as bringing jobs back to the US, they aren't doing much. And of course as soon as Trump leaves, many of the jobs other nations have promised will evaporate.

No Spin Ag said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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I don't know if the guys have noticed, but razors have gone up by a decent amount just since summer.

Gillette is selling their Fusion blades on Amazon for $36 for 10 cartridges.

I bought them in summer for $33 for 12 cartridges. No, I didn't buy them during Amazon days, it was just, like now, their regular price.

So, paying more for the same thing, but getting less.

Is this tariffs or just inflation or tariff induced inflation?

Either way, it would be nice if things turned around to at least where they were a year ago with prices on all things the average person buys on a regular basis.

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Amazon does dynamic pricing. I've seen the same item change price 5x in a day. If you add stuff to your cart and keep it there for a while before purchasing, you'll start to see the pattern.

I just checked my cart. Since yesterday, 14 items have increased and 18 have decreased.

You definitely bought the razor blades in a dip. This is the pricing for the last 12 months. Looks like the average has been ~$38 since July

Jack Squat 83 said:

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BusterAg said:

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javajaws said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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Why do you think that's due to AI? I think the only things affected by AI are stuff like GPUs and memory.

Most consumer electronics (think tvs, stereo stuff, etc.) are more affected by tariffs than AI.

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Anything that has any amount of RAM is impacted significantly by AI.

If your appliance / device / gadget has access to the internet, it has RAM.

The issue is so bad that many consumer electronics companies are bringing back "dumb" devices with no memory to avoid the product inflation.

All modern TVs have RAM.
Most modern stereos have access to the internet for streaming, and therefore have RAM.
Many home appliances, like washing machines, refrigerators, even ovens, have access to the internet and have RAM.

So, no, "most consumer electronics" are not more affected by tariffs than escalating RAM prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/02/nvidia-shift-ai-chip-shortages-threatening-to-hike-gadget-prices.html

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This is where they went nuts. I don't need my floormat to tell me when it's dirty. So dumb.

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Built in obsolescence. We had the whirlpool front loader W&D. The Hubs is skilled enough to order and replace the LED displays and computer on them an did so several times in fact over less than ten years...until they didn't make that part for that model anymore or the price became astronomical.

To finally replace them, I went as low tech as I could find. Still have the displays as opposed to the good old fashioned knobs.

AlexNguyen said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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I don't know if the guys have noticed, but razors have gone up by a decent amount just since summer.

Gillette is selling their Fusion blades on Amazon for $36 for 10 cartridges.

I bought them in summer for $33 for 12 cartridges. No, I didn't buy them during Amazon days, it was just, like now, their regular price.

So, paying more for the same thing, but getting less.

Is this tariffs or just inflation or tariff induced inflation?

Either way, it would be nice if things turned around to at least where they were a year ago with prices on all things the average person buys on a regular basis.

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This is just Gillette profiteering off their popular cartridges. I don't believe their manufacturing costs have increased to the rate that their prices have risen.

You can switch to a traditional safety razor with double edge razor blades very cheaply. I did it two years ago and wish I had known about the option much earlier. A cheapo setup that will last you 2 years is about $25. I bought a nicer stainless steel safety razor for $120, but it lasts a lifetime. Razor blades ($20 for 100 high quality ones) will last 1-2 years depending on how often I swap them out. Soaps or creams range from inexpensive to more costly, but even the expensive ones will last a long time.

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I tried going that route but it was not for me. It's cool you can and enjoy the safety razor route. It really is a cool way to shave.

As for Gillette, good to know it's just corporate greed with them. Might look into a competitor now.

Over_ed said:

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On the subject of tariffs- many foreign manufacturers' tariffs are being reimbursed by the government. That prevents US gaining traction in bringing jobs back here.

So, they are largely a new tax on consumers, and also tend to keep prices higher.

I don't have a huge problem with consumption taxes - as "everyone' pays as opposed to less than 50%.

But, as far as bringing jobs back to the US, they aren't doing much. And of course as soon as Trump leaves, many of the jobs other nations have promised will evaporate.

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Tariffs do nothing to fix the actual reasons why jobs left in the first place:

Taxes on corps
Over-regulation

Speed Queen. My in-laws bought a set and they are built like a tank(and in the USA), with dials etc, super basic. If they can hold up in washaterias…

They aren't cheap but should last more than 3-4 years before repairs have to start happening. We're getting them next go round.

aggiehawg said:

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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BusterAg said:

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javajaws said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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Why do you think that's due to AI? I think the only things affected by AI are stuff like GPUs and memory.

Most consumer electronics (think tvs, stereo stuff, etc.) are more affected by tariffs than AI.

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Anything that has any amount of RAM is impacted significantly by AI.

If your appliance / device / gadget has access to the internet, it has RAM.

The issue is so bad that many consumer electronics companies are bringing back "dumb" devices with no memory to avoid the product inflation.

All modern TVs have RAM.
Most modern stereos have access to the internet for streaming, and therefore have RAM.
Many home appliances, like washing machines, refrigerators, even ovens, have access to the internet and have RAM.

So, no, "most consumer electronics" are not more affected by tariffs than escalating RAM prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/02/nvidia-shift-ai-chip-shortages-threatening-to-hike-gadget-prices.html

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This is where they went nuts. I don't need my floormat to tell me when it's dirty. So dumb.

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Built in obsolescence. We had the whirlpool front loader W&D. The Hubs is skilled enough to order and replace the LED displays and computer on them an did so several times in fact over less than ten years...until they didn't make that part for that model anymore or the price became astronomical.

To finally replace them, I went as low tech as I could find. Still have the displays as opposed to the good old fashioned knobs.

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I heard about those issues from my family so when it was time to get a new W/D I just went with the old school ones I was replacing.

Fancy? No. Will I even think about worrying about it giving me problems in the next decade or more? Also no.

Jack Squat 83 said:

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Speed Queen. My in-laws bought a set and they are built like a tank(and in the USA), with dials etc, super basic. If they can hold up in washaterias…

They aren't cheap but should last more than 3-4 years before repairs have to start happening. We're getting them next go round.

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Speed KING or GTFO

My LG front loader washing machine that I bought at least 18 years ago is still going strong.

There is one button that is worn out, but we just work around that (I can't set the washer to wash for a certain amount of minutes. Big deal. I just set it to "really dirty" and hit go).

YouBet said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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Inflation down since Trump took office as well as gas prices.

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That's a nice talking point and all, but if you actually look at the CPI and PPI metrics, inflation is essentially flat since he took office, remaining stubbornly near 3% depending on which data elements you include.

Most consumers regard that as too high and aren't soothed by that talking point. Especially when it surprises to the upside like it did in this PPI print today.

Trump and the R's will be better off communicating what they're doing to try and get inflation down -- and how Dems are obstructing them -- than trying to sell a message that "inflation is ok and you should feel good about it." That message will float like a lead brick.

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Consumers regard that as too high because the Fed stubbornly maintains a 2% goal that is likely unrealistic at this point.

The larger problem that continues to get ignored is that inflation stacks. People are pissed because stuff doesn't cost what it did pre-Covid. We've taken double digit percentage cost increases every year for several years now on many things.

We aren't getting back to 2019 pricing. Doesn't matter who is in office.

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Yup. People don't want low inflation, they want deflation. The average consumer can't discern between 2% and 3% annual inflation (historically 3.23% since 1960). They want prices to go down, but that's not going to happen. Maybe select items like electronics and gasoline, but not on the whole.

No Spin Ag said:

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AlexNguyen said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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I don't know if the guys have noticed, but razors have gone up by a decent amount just since summer.

Gillette is selling their Fusion blades on Amazon for $36 for 10 cartridges.

I bought them in summer for $33 for 12 cartridges. No, I didn't buy them during Amazon days, it was just, like now, their regular price.

So, paying more for the same thing, but getting less.

Is this tariffs or just inflation or tariff induced inflation?

Either way, it would be nice if things turned around to at least where they were a year ago with prices on all things the average person buys on a regular basis.

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This is just Gillette profiteering off their popular cartridges. I don't believe their manufacturing costs have increased to the rate that their prices have risen.

You can switch to a traditional safety razor with double edge razor blades very cheaply. I did it two years ago and wish I had known about the option much earlier. A cheapo setup that will last you 2 years is about $25. I bought a nicer stainless steel safety razor for $120, but it lasts a lifetime. Razor blades ($20 for 100 high quality ones) will last 1-2 years depending on how often I swap them out. Soaps or creams range from inexpensive to more costly, but even the expensive ones will last a long time.

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I tried going that route but it was not for me. It's cool you can and enjoy the safety razor route. It really is a cool way to shave.

As for Gillette, good to know it's just corporate greed with them. Might look into a competitor now.

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Traditional razors are a symbol of toxic masculinity and the patriarchy.

Switch to an electric razor and you avoid being a fascist and you save a lot of money. Like me.

Owlagdad said:

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Mcdonald's coffee went from 19.90 to 22. 50 at Walmart. for 30 ounces. A big jump.
I enjoy it, but can go back to somebody's cheaper Columbian brand and just get used to it. Substitute good.
But for $22 I get 2.5 cups a day for a month, Im still way ahead of the Starbucks or even McDonalds restaurant crowds.

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You need to put your coffee on subscription from Amazon. I did a couple of years ago. There is a small cost savings and I never run out. We have a case of 72 pods delivered every 5 weeks. Most recent cost $34.11.

BigRobSA said:

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samurai_science said:

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RAM is the killer right now

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So, if I see RAM while walking down the street......cross the street!?

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You're kinda stealing L'il Horn's thunder here. That's the kind of remark he'd make.

BusterAg said:

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javajaws said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Electronics are seeing price increases every 2-4 weeks, some as much as 20% each time.

This is all due to the AI insanity.

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Why do you think that's due to AI? I think the only things affected by AI are stuff like GPUs and memory.

Most consumer electronics (think tvs, stereo stuff, etc.) are more affected by tariffs than AI.

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Anything that has any amount of RAM is impacted significantly by AI.

If your appliance / device / gadget has access to the internet, it has RAM.

The issue is so bad that many consumer electronics companies are bringing back "dumb" devices with no memory to avoid the product inflation.

All modern TVs have RAM.
Most modern stereos have access to the internet for streaming, and therefore have RAM.
Many home appliances, like washing machines, refrigerators, even ovens, have access to the internet and have RAM.

So, no, "most consumer electronics" are not more affected by tariffs than escalating RAM prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/02/nvidia-shift-ai-chip-shortages-threatening-to-hike-gadget-prices.html

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Bill Joy said in the early 90's that he wanted his refrigerator to tell him when he was out of milk.
I thought that was nuts, but I"m not a genius.

What's the definition of running "hot?"

If it's "running hot," why is the yield on T10 below 4% and the 10 year break even inflation rate at 2.25%?