Political fallout and arguments regarding the US-Israeli action against Iran 022824

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ttu_85
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To protect the other thread "Winter is coming" from political frustrations and BS. I suggest we post that stuff here.

To open, here are some post cut from that thread to kick things off


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Keyno said:

"Spreading freedom". Bush would be proud

deddog said:

Cry harder.

You are crying almost as much as the regime guys in Iran, the ones who are still alive. But not for long.

Keyno said:

We have been "spreading freedom" for a few decades. Hundreds of thousands of lives lost. Trillions spent. And we are STILL there all these years later (even though 2016 Trump admonished it). Here's to a few more decades. .


Sorry for your loss.


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Lots of "Reeeeeeeeeeeeee!" from our resident leftists. Trump is truly hitting the right targets.
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Raiderjay
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Can the TDS crowd create their own "Reeeee!" thread and we keep this one to updates on the conflict?
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Psycho Bunny
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Wasn't it Kenya boy who gave Iran billions to fund their terrorist cells.
Whether I get life's question right or wrong free will is an illusion.
Life is a game that plays us.
Are we dreaming of life or is life dreaming of us.

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ttu_85
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doubledog said:

Good points, but just where do you want to fight your proxy wars? NYC, Miami, Texas?

Keyno said:

Yeah man, we gotta fight em there so they don't fight us here. Heard that since I was in middle school and even back then I thought it was bizarre



Oh look I found the Iran loving cheerleader. I was in high school in 1979 when they took the hostages and for 449 days had to put up with weak demoRat leadership while we were embarrassed as a nation by a bunch of rabid goat herders.

I hope Trump guts that evil gov once and for all. They have so much blood on their hands which you and your alts seem to be fine with.

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This should get the ball rolling regarding the political fallout while preserving the historical, fact based nature of the other thread. Try not to blow a blood vessel.
Who?mikejones!
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Thank you.
Jason C.
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Dang, A+ site-specific HTML formatting, sir. You got this!
An L of an Ag
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Page 1. Nice effort, OP!
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GeorgiAg
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I feel this is my duty to get the thread going. (I dint give a crap about Iran)

Who?mikejones!
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Turns out, obama had Iranian homers in his cabinet that dropped pallets of cash instead and didn't really get anything in exchange.
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AgResearch
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Who?mikejones! said:

Turns out, obama had Iranian homers in his cabinet that dropped pallets of card instead and didn't really get anything in exchange.



John Kerry and Susan Rice need a one way flight to Iran today.
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Hussein funded evil. Glad an American is president now.

This country does not belong to the "citizens of the world," and should never be run for their benefit. God bless America.
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Pitter Patter let's get at 'er.
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GeorgiAg said:

I feel this is my duty to get the thread going. (I dint give a crap about Iran)



Guess not even Trump knew the pure evil of Sotero. He gave billions to the most evil regime in the world. of course he wasn't going to attack.
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This whole situation is insane. They try to convince us to attack Iran. Why? When anyone says it's due to Israeli influence on our government, they're labeled antisemitic. Netanyahu has been in our White House 7 times in a calendar year. He's addressed our Congress. It's ludicrous.

Iran has been on the verge of nuclear weapon for 30 years. I thought we destroyed their nuclear capabilities in the great strike last year.

They try to sell us that the Iranian people are being oppressed. So? People are oppressed everywhere but we don't involve ourselves. We are told we will bring democracy to the region (we don't even follow western democratic values here anymore). These people can't handle democracy.

There's no plan. Just like in Iraq. What's going to happen when the regime falls? The refugees will go to Europe and here.

And like any criticism of policy on this board one must express their allegiance to Trump lest be called TDS or a leftist.

I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick of the corruption. I voted Trump every time to clean this stuff. But I'm more confident than ever that they're all compromised.

I'm sick of our leaders being elected on a position and then completely deviating. The whole thing makes me sick as ****.
Logos Stick
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Can't wait to see John Kerry's response.
Pizza
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Sometimes - when someone is attacking a friend or neighbor, you need to step in for a moment, and hit the attacker (very, very hard) to help things simmer down.

Especially when the attacker is deranged, and wants nuclear weapons. Imagine 9/11 with a dirty bomb or sheety nuke...that's what you get from a nuclear Iran sooner or later.
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GeorgiAg
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This is the real issue.

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Phatbob
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Queso1 said:

This whole situation is insane. They try to convince us to attack Iran. Why? When anyone says it's due to Israeli influence on our government, they're labeled antisemitic. Netanyahu has been in our White House 7 times in a calendar year. He's addressed our Congress. It's ludicrous.

Iran has been on the verge of nuclear weapon for 30 years. I thought we destroyed their nuclear capabilities in the great strike last year.

They try to sell us that the Iranian people are being oppressed. So? People are oppressed everywhere but we don't involve ourselves. We are told we will bring democracy to the region (we don't even follow western democratic values here anymore). These people can't handle democracy.

There's no plan. Just like in Iraq. What's going to happen when the regime falls? The refugees will go to Europe and here.

And like any criticism of policy on this board one must express their allegiance to Trump lest be called TDS or a leftist.

I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick of the corruption. I voted Trump every time to clean this stuff. But I'm more confident than ever that they're all compromised.

I'm sick of our leaders being elected on a position and then completely deviating. The whole thing makes me sick as ****.

We don't live in your isolationist fantasy. We shaped the world to benefit us because better us than someone else, and make no mistake, someone else will if we don't. You are in a safe space because of it. You can be sick as **** all you want but the world is messy, and at least someone is willing to do **** that has to be done. Your grandkids will live in a better world because of it, even the ones that complain about it.
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Queso1 said:

This whole situation is insane. They try to convince us to attack Iran. Why? When anyone says it's due to Israeli influence on our government, they're labeled antisemitic. Netanyahu has been in our White House 7 times in a calendar year. He's addressed our Congress. It's ludicrous.

Iran has been on the verge of nuclear weapon for 30 years. I thought we destroyed their nuclear capabilities in the great strike last year.

They try to sell us that the Iranian people are being oppressed. So? People are oppressed everywhere but we don't involve ourselves. We are told we will bring democracy to the region (we don't even follow western democratic values here anymore). These people can't handle democracy.

There's no plan. Just like in Iraq. What's going to happen when the regime falls? The refugees will go to Europe and here.

And like any criticism of policy on this board one must express their allegiance to Trump lest be called TDS or a leftist.

I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick of the corruption. I voted Trump every time to clean this stuff. But I'm more confident than ever that they're all compromised.

I'm sick of our leaders being elected on a position and then completely deviating. The whole thing makes me sick as ****.


I get part of this. You raise some good points but I also disagree hugely on other points. Iran != Iraq. Trump is cleaning some of this stuff up. For example Hezbollah an organization that has killed thousands, Such as the Houthis threatening shipping in one of the worlds most important strategic water ways.

Whether we like it or not. The world is changing fast economically and politically. It looks like the typical ~80 year cycle is coming just a few year later. A time of major change, just look at a map of global oil production. Then a map of oil related trade routes to major users.

Whether we like it or not, major trouble is coming with regards to China. Its a wounded dragon, yet controls the Rare Earths market, but in desperate need of fuel/oil. And if we control that oil access we have a major card in chilling them out regarding them black mailing us with the Rare Earth resources. See Japan 1/6/26 China tried to lock them out.

Greenland, Ven, Iran. its all about the West Vs China, Oil vs Rare Earth, and its all about LOGISTICS. Most wars are about trade of critical commodities and the logistics to move them.

Look just a little deeper.

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GeorgiAg said:

I feel this is my duty to get the thread going. (I dint give a crap about Iran)



So Trump was wrong in 2013.

He got it right today.
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Ag87H2O said:

GeorgiAg said:

I feel this is my duty to get the thread going. (I dint give a crap about Iran)



So Trump was wrong in 2013.

He got it right today.


I am posting these things as talking points. Iran is a horrible regime. I just hate that we are having to put our soldiers and service men at risk and spend our money.
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Queso1 said:

This whole situation is insane. They try to convince us to attack Iran. Why? When anyone says it's due to Israeli influence on our government, they're labeled antisemitic. Netanyahu has been in our White House 7 times in a calendar year. He's addressed our Congress. It's ludicrous.

Iran has been on the verge of nuclear weapon for 30 years. I thought we destroyed their nuclear capabilities in the great strike last year.

They try to sell us that the Iranian people are being oppressed. So? People are oppressed everywhere but we don't involve ourselves. We are told we will bring democracy to the region (we don't even follow western democratic values here anymore). These people can't handle democracy.

There's no plan. Just like in Iraq. What's going to happen when the regime falls? The refugees will go to Europe and here.

And like any criticism of policy on this board one must express their allegiance to Trump lest be called TDS or a leftist.

I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick of the corruption. I voted Trump every time to clean this stuff. But I'm more confident than ever that they're all compromised.

I'm sick of our leaders being elected on a position and then completely deviating. The whole thing makes me sick as ****.

I Don't Care about this point of view.
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From the other thread.

Yukon Cornelius said:

We aren't the world's police and we have a constitution. That requires going to war to be decided by Congress not the president. If the case is so certain that doing things the correct action why not put it to Congress? Reason being is th constitution is being walked on again.


If you left it to any Congress of the past 15-20 years we would never declare war even if we needed to. Having the ability for our presidents to be nimble and act without approval is probably going to end up being important to our survival. Because by the time the partisans agree on anything it will likely be too late.

Even Pearl Harbor and the Phillipines were preventable disasters because our leaders didn't have the political stomach to go on offense.
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No more blood and treasure to the Middle East.
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How does this benefit us? This solves inflation? This cleans up our cities that we cant even walk through? This cleans up 20+ million illegals? This cleans up mosques in our cities blaring the call to prayer? Nonsense. This is but a ruse.
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We don't need any puppet governments trying to destabilize Iran from afar. He needs to be dead today.
Queso1
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I still have a Mission Accomplished W Doll in my office to remind me how easy we were manipulated. I'm comfortable knowing I won't be brainwashed this time.
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I bet 6 hours after the new Democratic administration is installed, Leftists will fly Antifa over to start protesting for transgender surgeries of Iranian 7 year olds
Old McDonald
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so tldr:

trump 2024: no new wars
republicans: hell yeah
trump 2025: just gonna bomb Iran's nuke sites real quick
republicans: hell yeah
trump 2026: we're doing a regime change war in iran, some of you may die but that's a risk I'm willing to take
republicans: hell yeah
everyone else: hey we don't want another forever war in the middle east
republicans: cry more libs
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I don't think the isolation absolutists understand what the global situation is right now. They will complain about our support for Ukraine, and I have sympathies in that, however, we are seeing the dividends of the Russian weakness worldwide and it is providing massive opportunities to be rid of generational world bad actors with very reduced action on our part. Their quagmire in Ukraine is keeping them as non-factors in Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, Cuba, and Colombia. Because of that, we can be opportunistic and push a western friendly world that has recently been receding.
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Old McDonald said:

so tldr:

trump 2024: no new wars
republicans: hell yeah
trump 2025: just gonna bomb Iran's nuke sites real quick
republicans: hell yeah
trump 2026: we're doing a regime change war in iran, some of you may die but that's a risk I'm willing to take
republicans: hell yeah
everyone else: hey we don't want another forever war in the middle east
republicans: cry more libs

This was always a fantasy by some MAGA. Trump was never as dovish as they projected him to be. He is, however, way more hesitant and better at it than his most recent predecessors
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The time for parsing the politics will come later... today, as the bombs fall, support our president and troops 100%
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Has anybody checked on John Kerry or Valerie Jarret this morning? Send them some help. And crying towels.
"Green" is the new RED.
 
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