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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Or 105,000 people leaving a football stadium and all bunched together filtering through the few exits.

If I were them, it would not be so much about body count. Pipeline risers/valves, and compressors, power generating facilities, and drop a few major bridges on the main highways, and make us miserable for many months.

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Blowing up things like bridges and dams takes a lot of effort.

For them, the targets which would create the most wide spread panic are schools, day cares, and churches. Soft targets, easy to overwhelm any defense with enough people and firepower, and nothing will create for fear, panic, and anti-Trump sentiment than a lot of dead kids which the left would blame on him rather than the terrorists.

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A column or two on a major bridge would make it unusable for a very long time, disrupting the supply of food and fuel. Pipelines have above ground exposure all along them, most of the locations are pretty remote.

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It would require knocking out a lot of bridges to cause massive disruptions. Yes, it could snarl traffic and cause delays, but ground shipments can be rerouted, or moved by rail.

If the goal was to cause disruptions, then pipelines would be a more logical target than bridges.

one safe place said:

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Or 105,000 people leaving a football stadium and all bunched together filtering through the few exits.

If I were them, it would not be so much about body count. Pipeline risers/valves, and compressors, power generating facilities, and drop a few major bridges on the main highways, and make us miserable for many months.

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Yea well I attend those 105k events. I'm thinking take out Buchanan dam and it takes out 3-4 more dams on the way to taking out Austin.

Rapier108 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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one safe place said:

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Or 105,000 people leaving a football stadium and all bunched together filtering through the few exits.

If I were them, it would not be so much about body count. Pipeline risers/valves, and compressors, power generating facilities, and drop a few major bridges on the main highways, and make us miserable for many months.

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Blowing up things like bridges and dams takes a lot of effort.

For them, the targets which would create the most wide spread panic are schools, day cares, and churches. Soft targets, easy to overwhelm any defense with enough people and firepower, and nothing will create for fear, panic, and anti-Trump sentiment than a lot of dead kids which the left would blame on him rather than the terrorists.

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A column or two on a major bridge would make it unusable for a very long time, disrupting the supply of food and fuel. Pipelines have above ground exposure all along them, most of the locations are pretty remote.

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It would require knocking out a lot of bridges to cause massive disruptions. Yes, it could snarl traffic and cause delays, but ground shipments can be rerouted, or moved by rail.

If the goal was to cause disruptions, then pipelines would be a more logical target than bridges.

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Electrical generating stations would be the easiest target of all and they would take a lot of time to rebuild/replace. Added bonus of hitting a couple of big ones is that it would take the entire grid down for a day or two.

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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No issue with advising caution and vigilance.

Houston is one of the closest towns to the border where potential Iranian crossings from Mexico would have occurred. It's very logical to threat assess this as a likely counter / reaction by Iran to the US attacking it.

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San Diego, LA, Bakersfield, Las Vegas, Tucson, Phoenix, Albuquerque, El Paso, San Antonio, and Austin are all closer to the border than Houston.

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Thanks for the geography lesson.

Deerdude said:

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one safe place said:

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Or 105,000 people leaving a football stadium and all bunched together filtering through the few exits.

If I were them, it would not be so much about body count. Pipeline risers/valves, and compressors, power generating facilities, and drop a few major bridges on the main highways, and make us miserable for many months.

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Yea well I attend those 105k events. I'm thinking take out Buchanan dam and it takes out 3-4 more dams on the way to taking out Austin.

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You'd need a nuke to bring down a dam of any consequential size. A car bomb wouldn't cut it as dams are intentionally overbuilt, and I doubt they could acquire something like the bouncing bombs the British used during Operation Chastise. Sure, if one had days or weeks to plant tons and tons of explosives all over the place that might work, but no way a bunch of people would be allowed to do that before being stopped.

I've been accumulating weapons and ammo for the zombie apocalypse. I'm ready for this too…

Meh, the world was going to end with all the sleeper cells after 9/11 and after W invaded the wrong country (Iraq). I'll see it when I believe it.

Besides, I'm sure Patel has his eye on the ball.

Rapier108 said:

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Deerdude said:

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Or 105,000 people leaving a football stadium and all bunched together filtering through the few exits.

If I were them, it would not be so much about body count. Pipeline risers/valves, and compressors, power generating facilities, and drop a few major bridges on the main highways, and make us miserable for many months.

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Yea well I attend those 105k events. I'm thinking take out Buchanan dam and it takes out 3-4 more dams on the way to taking out Austin.

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You'd need a nuke to bring down a dam of any consequential size. A car bomb wouldn't cut it as dams are intentionally overbuilt, and I doubt they could acquire something like the bouncing bombs the British used during Operation Chastise. Sure, if one had days or weeks to plant tons and tons of explosives all over the place that might work, but no way a bunch of people would be allowed to do that before being stopped.

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I'm not concerned. On 9/11 the highland lakes chain of dams were heavily patrolled.

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Windy City Ag said:

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Preemptively firing up the "It was Biden's fault" excuse.

This is advanced planning.

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I still blame Jimmy Carter for this...I have been waiting since 1979 for us to take these MoFos out. Be careful out there Ags!

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Yep, for those of us old enough to remember our national humiliation and sense of helplessness, seeing the US military take out Iranian regime leaders and military assets is sweet karma.

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The Left loves to humiliate America

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some of yall read too many Tom Clancy novels nothing is going to happen to you.

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Don't conflate the chances of having something happening to any one of us with the chances of something happening period.

We all know the difference and I'm guessing you do also.

20 minutes....Sarah Adams on how Iran can sew chaos here

thoughts on air travel tomorrow

Fly with confidence. They will hit soft targets if they attack.

SpreadsheetAg said:

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No issue with advising caution and vigilance.

Houston is one of the closest towns to the border where potential Iranian crossings from Mexico would have occurred. It's very logical to threat assess this as a likely counter / reaction by Iran to the US attacking it.

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If Iran sent terrorists into this country, I would expect them to come across the Northern border and not from Mexico. That border is easy for them to get their agents to via flights into Canada. Getting across that border has always been easy under every administration to get across along with any weapons they want to bring with them.

That isn't to say they would cross from Mexico but I just don't think that is the way to do it. (They also could have just directly flown into the US on a visa that they then overstay).

Windy City Ag said:

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Preemptively firing up the "It was Biden's fault" excuse.

This is advanced planning.

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Jesus...

Look at what they posted..

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We know that millions of people came into the USA illegally during Biden. There is the possibility that our enemies have secret terrorist cells in the USA.

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Which part of that was placing any blame? Both sentences are statements of fact.

You are the first one who fired up the use of the word "fault".

Did you bring it up because you wanted to preemptively release biden of any fault if it turns out some of the multitude of pieces of **** he allowed into the country turn out to be terrorists?

Either way, Next Year is the Year summed it up perfectly.

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Are there Americans around you?

Everyone is a target when Muslims get mad

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Let's be honest they don't even have to be mad.

MemphisAg1 said:

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Houston Lee said:

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Windy City Ag said:

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Preemptively firing up the "It was Biden's fault" excuse.

This is advanced planning.

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I still blame Jimmy Carter for this...I have been waiting since 1979 for us to take these MoFos out. Be careful out there Ags!

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Yep, for those of us old enough to remember our national humiliation and sense of helplessness, seeing the US military take out Iranian regime leaders and military assets is sweet karma.

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And like now, all it took was a new president.

A couple of dozen well designed drone attacks and lots of people can be without power for weeks.

Big / complex attacks on infrastructure or protected targets require planning and logistics and multiple people and lots of supplies. With that comes more chance of being found out prior to the attack.

Put 10-15 guys with rifles and suicide vests in multiple areas of a large city during rush hour....

Mumbai was one of the most successful attacks of this type. A few zealots and minimal equipment needed. Do it in a city here and you cause fear for a decade.

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I have no active intelligence other than historical context. We know that millions of people came into the USA illegally during Biden. There is the possibility that our enemies have secret terrorist cells in the USA.

If this is true and if those cells are still loyal to the Iranian regime, then all of us need to be vigilant and aware of our surroundings as we go about our next days and weeks.

The Iranian regime has nothing to lose at this point by striking with anything and everything they have.

Again. Just be careful out there folks.

God bless the USA and our military as they carry out their duties. And BTHO outta t.u. in Men's Basketball today!

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good thing I don't have to worry at all about this issue

since I work for an Israeli/American defense company located near Washington DC

There are over 260 sleeper cells.

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Or 105,000 people leaving a football stadium and all bunched together filtering through the few exits.

If I were them, it would not be so much about body count. Pipeline risers/valves, and compressors, power generating facilities, and drop a few major bridges on the main highways, and make us miserable for many months.

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Yea well I attend those 105k events. I'm thinking take out Buchanan dam and it takes out 3-4 more dams on the way to taking out Austin.

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Exactly how do you think they could take out a dam to the point of failure? They can't.

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Big / complex attacks on infrastructure or protected targets require planning and logistics and multiple people and lots of supplies. With that comes more chance of being found out prior to the attack.

Put 10-15 guys with rifles and suicide vests in multiple areas of a large city during rush hour....

Mumbai was one of the most successful attacks of this type. A few zealots and minimal equipment needed. Do it in a city here and you cause fear for a decade.

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Sort of what I was thinking with regard to large college football stadiums. What sort of distance would it be from Welborn and Houston Street? Two or three Suburbans with 8 or 10 guys in each, with ARs or the equivalent, each with several 30 round magazines could to some damage firing into the crowded exits. Pick some Saturday and pull that off in more than one stadium. No special equipment, no dirty bombs, just rifles and ammo. I would guess they have more than a few willing to die for their cause.

If it is not clear to idiot globalist Marxists and radical Islamic nuts the disadvantage they are at with Trump and Hegseth at the wheel, they deserve what they get. Any assault on American civilians on American soil by sleeper cells would face the mother of all retaliation and swift justice. As stated above, most radical sleeper terrorists have their head down flying American flags in their uber cars.

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Are there Americans around you?

Everyone is a target when Muslims get mad

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Don't threaten me with a good time. The GWOT veterans who live in Texas are waiting for the break glass in case of war moment, should it come.

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BMX Bandit said:

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Are there Americans around you?

Everyone is a target when Muslims get mad

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Don't threaten me with a good time. The GWOT veterans who live in Texas are waiting for the break glass in case of war moment, should it come.

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Especially the ones around Lake Buchanan!

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Big / complex attacks on infrastructure or protected targets require planning and logistics and multiple people and lots of supplies. With that comes more chance of being found out prior to the attack.

Put 10-15 guys with rifles and suicide vests in multiple areas of a large city during rush hour....

Mumbai was one of the most successful attacks of this type. A few zealots and minimal equipment needed. Do it in a city here and you cause fear for a decade.

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Sort of what I was thinking with regard to large college football stadiums. What sort of distance would it be from Welborn and Houston Street? Two or three Suburbans with 8 or 10 guys in each, with ARs or the equivalent, each with several 30 round magazines could to some damage firing into the crowded exits. Pick some Saturday and pull that off in more than one stadium. No special equipment, no dirty bombs, just rifles and ammo. I would guess they have more than a few willing to die for their cause.

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BMX Bandit said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Are there Americans around you?

Everyone is a target when Muslims get mad

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Yep Coffee shops are the preferred targets. They dont have the balls to go after something that would augment the US military. They have always been wimps targeting unarmed civies.

Some of the opponents of this operation have forgotten all that.

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we do have weapons in our office- but if it comes to that you are in bad shape to begin with.

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Deerdude said:

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Deerdude said:

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Only viable target around me is Buchanan dam.

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Or 105,000 people leaving a football stadium and all bunched together filtering through the few exits.

If I were them, it would not be so much about body count. Pipeline risers/valves, and compressors, power generating facilities, and drop a few major bridges on the main highways, and make us miserable for many months.

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Yea well I attend those 105k events. I'm thinking take out Buchanan dam and it takes out 3-4 more dams on the way to taking out Austin.

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Exactly how do you think they could take out a dam to the point of failure? They can't.

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I don't know but I know that the highland lakes dams were put on some list for protection. I just live here and boat here and on the water side you couldn't get anywhere near the dams.
Why exactly again are you attacking me? I'm in close contact with many county officials in my area. This is not my opinion, I'm telling you how it was on 9/11. Feel free to criticize LEO efforts on that day and after.

And maybe tell that to the folks on lake Dunlap and McQueeny.

It appears many of you want the simple to be complex. We've been shown over and over how well drones work, and I can pretty much guarantee the military's anti drone defenses around our energy infrastructure is quite limited. Refineries and electrical generation are quite vulnerable and could cause billions of dollars in economic damage quickly.