FarmerFran said:

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Great piece of legislation. Too bad he has us barreling into a recession, the national deficit is the highest it's ever been through one year, the price of gas is high and the supply is low leading us to beginning ethonol increases in gas to ration, spending useless money on an illegal war, etc etc. but whatever gives you some peace for voting forr this idiot I guess

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Do you honestly think your cackling wh**e would have been better?

KerrAg76 said:

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Fat finger that on my phone. Was meant for Fran..sorry

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That's okay. Fat fingers happen, especially on Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium where everyone is so fat and dreadful

Sounds like the folks who sill ride the short bus are again behind the times understanding that the reason this is being cut back are that many advances in drug testing can be modeled in AI and not in beagles.

They more likely belong sailing the endless seas on the HMS Beagle than they are to be researching the next medicinal therapies.

Any outrage, whether real or faux, over this is jumping to a Trump hate without understanding what is actually going on.

This is very good, very smart, very animal friendly Trump. Folks should just say thank you and move along.

File this in the Trump Cures Cancer, TDS Remains a Medical Mystery

Oyster DuPree said:

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KerrAg76 said:

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Fat finger that on my phone. Was meant for Fran..sorry

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That's okay. Fat fingers happen, especially on Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium where everyone is so fat and dreadful

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FTR, I'm not fat.

Some Blue Hair is in her car making a screeching video where she tells us Trump is genociding trans children by refusing to harm puppies

It's why they can't be taken seriously

Maroon Dawn said:

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Some Blue Hair is in her car making a screeching video where she tells us Trump is genociding trans children by refusing to harm puppies

It's why they can't be taken seriously

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They have to quit posting on f16 long enough to record the video. Look know further than a few posts above about how this is somehow bad Trump and people will die.

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KerrAg76 said:

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Fat finger that on my phone. Was meant for Fran..sorry

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That's okay. Fat fingers happen, especially on Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium where everyone is so fat and dreadful

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FTR, I'm not fat.

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This is believable because you don't have two stars next to your name which would, if you had them, signify that you were subscribed to Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium. Then you would be 600 pounds. Ghastly group

Liberals don't like dogs; they have multiple cats though.

Democrats are likely fine testing on beagles since Snoopy was one and Charlie Brown represents the bungling white patriarchy.

Oyster DuPree said:

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KerrAg76 said:

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Fat finger that on my phone. Was meant for Fran..sorry

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That's okay. Fat fingers happen, especially on Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium where everyone is so fat and dreadful

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FTR, I'm not fat.

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This is believable because you don't have two stars next to your name which would, if you had them, signify that you were subscribed to Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium. Then you would be 600 pounds. Ghastly group

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Those who can afford stars can also afford Zepbound.

The star obsession is noted. Some us use it for the "Ignore" function and to support a small business.

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KerrAg76 said:

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Fat finger that on my phone. Was meant for Fran..sorry

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That's okay. Fat fingers happen, especially on Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium where everyone is so fat and dreadful

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FTR, I'm not fat.

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This is believable because you don't have two stars next to your name which would, if you had them, signify that you were subscribed to Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium. Then you would be 600 pounds. Ghastly group

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Those who can afford stars can also afford Zepbound.

The star obsession is noted. Some us use it for the "Ignore" function and to support a small business.

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You're one of the good ones

I am familiar with the luxury drive bys of B-rad wannabe premium gangsters who think f16 is a convention of lowlife ******ed people.

AI will never replace empirical data. For all the talk about how terrible the experimental vaccine was, you sure are gung ho to trust an algorithm that is consistently wrong.

I've used machine learning in clinical cancer research, but the models must always be confirmed with wet lab data. Animal testing is absolutely necessary to ensure safety and drug efficacy before reaching human patients.

WaltonAg18 said:

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AI will never replace empirical data. For all the talk about how terrible the experimental vaccine was, you sure are gung ho to trust an algorithm that is consistently wrong.

I've used machine learning in clinical cancer research, but the models must always be confirmed with wet lab data. Animal testing is absolutely necessary to ensure safety and drug efficacy before reaching human patients.

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I could make equal arguments about how testing in AI environs offers such improved quality and variable controlling that it would be vastly superior.

I am NOT talking about flown-the-coop becoming a medical research phenom because I cured diabetes with Grok+.

Much iterative testing can be achieved without live animal testing.

And it takes a special level of idiot to trust an algorithm that you know is faulty. Perhaps they suffer from other mental limitations that makes them a poor medical researcher.

flown-the-coop said:

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WaltonAg18 said:

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AI will never replace empirical data. For all the talk about how terrible the experimental vaccine was, you sure are gung ho to trust an algorithm that is consistently wrong.

I've used machine learning in clinical cancer research, but the models must always be confirmed with wet lab data. Animal testing is absolutely necessary to ensure safety and drug efficacy before reaching human patients.

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I could make equal arguments about how testing in AI environs offers such improved quality and variable controlling that it would be vastly superior.

I am NOT talking about flown-the-coop becoming a medical research phenom because I cured diabetes with Grok+.

Much iterative testing can be achieved without live animal testing.

And it takes a special level of idiot to trust an algorithm that you know is faulty. Perhaps they suffer from other mental limitations that makes them a poor medical researcher.

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I hope that we are one day to the point of understanding the mechanisms behind God's creations that we are able to use computer modeling for research. But we are decades away from something like that. It's so difficult to model complex proteins that there are research groups that you can lend your computers processing power to in order to help them model.

When we were testing one of the cancer drugs, one of the first steps of even approaching FDA-trials was to first give the drug to mice. Those mice then had to be dissected and every single organ had to have DNA extracted and tested to ensure that the biological drug wasn't hitting somewhere unintended - because we have no way of knowing that for sure without empirical data.

One day the technology will finally be to the point where we can get rid of a majority of animal models. But now is not that day, and tomorrow isn't looking too hot either.

Ag4life80 said:

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Sounds like an opportunity for some Antifa criminals to provide some community testing,......errrr service

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Antifa people have too many communicable diseases, they cannot provide a good base line for research. ; )

Dr Oz is sad

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Why would beagles be singled out

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Beagles specifically are used in some testing because their respiratory system performs very closely to humans. They have been used historically for testing chemical protective filters and such for the military.

Also, easy to care for, docile even for invasive tox testing, and purpose bred beagles are all genetically pretty consistent. You can get 30 animals that are all about the same size.

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FarmerFran said:

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Great piece of legislation. Too bad he has us barreling into a recession, the national deficit is the highest it's ever been through one year, the price of gas is high and the supply is low leading us to beginning ethonol increases in gas to ration, spending useless money on an illegal war, etc etc. but whatever gives you some peace for voting forr this idiot I guess

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Do you honestly think your cackling wh**e would have been better?

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Yes I do

FarmerFran said:

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Sq4fish83 said:

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FarmerFran said:

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Great piece of legislation. Too bad he has us barreling into a recession, the national deficit is the highest it's ever been through one year, the price of gas is high and the supply is low leading us to beginning ethonol increases in gas to ration, spending useless money on an illegal war, etc etc. but whatever gives you some peace for voting forr this idiot I guess

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Do you honestly think your cackling wh**e would have been better?

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Yes I do

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#following

Cackling ***** the Peacemaker.

Was she going to dress up as 43 virgins in order to accomplish this grand feat?