178,000 jobs added in March

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Federal gov jobs fell by another 18k. That brings the total close to 380,000 government jobs eliminated.

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U.S. payrolls rose by 178,000 in March...

The unemployment rate edged lower to 4.3%,



https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/03/jobs-report-march-2026-.html
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Good news from both sides.
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Cherry picked or manipulated in some way. The job market still is bad, though it definitely is improving based on the sudden uptick of calls I am getting.

I don't buy it. But as long as improvement is there, I don't really care.

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Of course when dems criticize the jobs losses it will never be explained to the useful idiots a good chunk of that is federal employees who are blood sucking from the government.
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ts5641 said:

Of course when dems criticize the jobs losses it will never be explained to the useful idiots a good chunk of that is federal employees who are blood sucking from the government.


Correct. Had Kamala been elected, she would have added another 150k government jobs the last year. That's 530,000 jobs "better" than Trump! The jobs report would look fantastic and her supporters would clap like seals!
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infinity ag said:

Cherry picked or manipulated in some way. The job market still is bad, though it definitely is improving based on the sudden uptick of calls I am getting.

I don't buy it. But as long as improvement is there, I don't really care.




Damn CEOs tweaking the numbers.

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

infinity ag said:

Cherry picked or manipulated in some way. The job market still is bad, though it definitely is improving based on the sudden uptick of calls I am getting.

I don't buy it. But as long as improvement is there, I don't really care.




Damn CEOs tweaking the numbers.

ELOOOOOONNNNNNN!!!!
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Oracle laid off 30,000 on tuesday the 31st. Wonder if those were included. Doubt it given they're all still probably technically on payroll for a while.
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A wise man says, "wait until the adjustments."
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[You're not going to hijack this thread and make it about H1B's and CEO's. Start a different thread if you want to explore those topics -- Staff]
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But we should also keep in mind with population trends the equilibrium according to the St Louis fed is somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000. I did see a report that they have actually lowered that number but I haven't seen it yet.
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infinity ag said:

Cherry picked or manipulated in some way. The job market still is bad, though it definitely is improving based on the sudden uptick of calls I am getting.

I don't buy it. But as long as improvement is there, I don't really care.



Same.

I mean, as long as I have my job, and I will for as long as I want it, I honestly don't really care anymore than I do about most things related to government numbers.
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Exactly. What's the point of these reports when every time they revise the numbers. Just issue the damn report with a longer lag time when it more accurate.
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infinity ag said:

Cherry picked or manipulated in some way. The job market still is bad, though it definitely is improving based on the sudden uptick of calls I am getting.

I don't buy it. But as long as improvement is there, I don't really care.



Cherry picked manipulated I don't buy it but trust me bros I don't care?

Cmon dude. You cancelled the wife's Mercedes over tariffs which made you money, proselytized about evil CEOs and the antichrist of AI, but you don't care?
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Last 12 months. A good chunk of our labor growth is in hiring people to take care of aging boomers. I don't know why the BLS lumps in private education with the healthcare sector but whatever. Probably just something historical that they keep doing.
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Govt numbers, regardless of party in power, are absolute crap.

GIGO
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If Biden administration numbers were bad numbers, what confidence do you have in any government numbers?
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Yay. Americans lost jobs while foreigners are at record-high growth.
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Under Obama, young people wanted to work in government over any career path. That says all you need to know about that clown.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Yay. Americans lost jobs while foreigners are at record-high growth.



If this includes H1BS, then, obviously, nothings really been done that'll curtail the jobs going to anyone not born here.
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You have to look at the context and the jobs.

Natives work mainly in "above the neck" fields: IT, engineering, financial services, etc...

Immigrants - which does include the 15 million illegals that Biden let in - work more in the "below the neck" fields: construction, hospitality. warehousing, etc.

The gap started widening once Biden opened the flood gates! I think that explains these numbers to a large extent.
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Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise
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TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

Speak only for yourself.

If super-genius level talent was only available from India, why is India still a ****hole that H1-Bs would gladly desert to come over here and take less-than-market wages? Even more than that, when they are sent home to await a visa stamp, they consider themselves "stranded" in the country that they were born into.

India has thousands of years of caste programming, and they are coming over here and still enabling the same caste-behavior as back home, where 70% of the people **** on the sidewalk. (we call that discrimination here).

To even attempt to pretend that it's because these people are enlightened or exceptionally talented, and not that Indians have taken over HR and extended their caste-system here is just an absurd lack of critical thinking.

I work with a lot of H1Bs and they are actually really nice, law abiding, tax paying people, as long as conversations dont stray into lawn-care expectations. However, I have kids and they deserve preference over Indian nationals because...they were born in and live here. They are native. They are intelligent.

What good is a government who prioritizes foreigners over natives in the long run? I guess we will see, because that's what we have. It's not working so well in Europe.
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I'm trying to find the data to support that graph. I looked at the BLS website and they have a table of foreign-born versus US born unemployment but it doesn't indicate what the graph does.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

Last 12 months. A good chunk of our labor growth is in hiring people to take care of aging boomers. I don't know why the BLS lumps in private education with the healthcare sector but whatever. Probably just something historical that they keep doing.


There was healthcare related strike in February which is partly why there were job loses reported at the beginning of March. People on strike can draw unemployment and get counted as a job loss.

The strike ended and all those people going back to work count a job gains. It's dumb, but been that way forever.
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BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

Speak only for yourself.

If super-genius level talent was only available from India, why is India still a ****hole that H1-Bs would gladly desert to come over here and take less-than-market wages? Even more than that, when they are sent home to await a visa stamp, they consider themselves "stranded" in the country that they were born into.

India has thousands of years of caste programming, and they are coming over here and still enabling the same caste-behavior as back home, where 70% of the people **** on the sidewalk. (we call that discrimination here).

To even attempt to pretend that it's because these people are enlightened or exceptionally talented, and not that Indians have taken over HR and extended their caste-system here is just an absurd lack of critical thinking.


What the eff are you talking about dude. The newest conspiracy is that Indians are taking over human resources?

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TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

Speak only for yourself.

If super-genius level talent was only available from India, why is India still a ****hole that H1-Bs would gladly desert to come over here and take less-than-market wages? Even more than that, when they are sent home to await a visa stamp, they consider themselves "stranded" in the country that they were born into.

India has thousands of years of caste programming, and they are coming over here and still enabling the same caste-behavior as back home, where 70% of the people **** on the sidewalk. (we call that discrimination here).

To even attempt to pretend that it's because these people are enlightened or exceptionally talented, and not that Indians have taken over HR and extended their caste-system here is just an absurd lack of critical thinking.


What the eff are you talking about dude. The newest conspiracy is that Indians are taking over human resources?



This is not new-news. I suppose if you are a teacher or janitor at QT, this might come as a surprise, but it's a thing. Especially in tech.

It happens at a lower level in HOAs in Frisco, for example.

Indians, in general, have a preference for hiring Indians, of preferable castes. That's why there is so much scam and fraud from H1B.

Again, if we are trying to get the best and brightest from all nations, the world over, why are an absurd percentage of them from India? You would expect them to be naturally distributed across some countries.
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The chart I posted is a 12-month chart. So that's what's been happening over the last year. Over 600,000 jobs created in healthcare but losses in finance, information, manufacturing, etc. Were it not for demand to take care of aging boomers we would have created almost no jobs over the last year. Other sectors are really hurting.
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Quote:

The U.S. economy may need fewer than 10,000 new jobs per month to maintain a stable unemployment rate this year, Federal Reserve researchers said in a paper published Wednesday


https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2026/04/03/new-break-even/


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The analysis, by Fed economists Seth Murray and Ivan Vidangos, finds that the "breakeven pace" of job creationthe number of positions the economy must add each month to hold the unemployment rate steadyhas plunged to nearly zero, reflecting a sharp pullback in net immigration and the continued retirement of baby boomers. Both factors have slowed growth in the available pool of workers to a pace not seen in at least 65 years.
The finding reframes what counts as a strong labor marketand it also reframes the recent past. Last year, monthly job growth averaged roughly 181,000, a pace that was widely characterized in financial media and on Wall Street as disappointing or anemic. But the researchers' framework suggests otherwise: the breakeven pace in 2025 was approximately 85,000 jobs per month, meaning the economy was generating more than twice the number of jobs needed to absorb new entrants to the labor force. By that measure, the 2025 labor market was not soft at allit was comfortably outpacing demand for work.

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BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

Speak only for yourself.

If super-genius level talent was only available from India, why is India still a ****hole that H1-Bs would gladly desert to come over here and take less-than-market wages? Even more than that, when they are sent home to await a visa stamp, they consider themselves "stranded" in the country that they were born into.

India has thousands of years of caste programming, and they are coming over here and still enabling the same caste-behavior as back home, where 70% of the people **** on the sidewalk. (we call that discrimination here).

To even attempt to pretend that it's because these people are enlightened or exceptionally talented, and not that Indians have taken over HR and extended their caste-system here is just an absurd lack of critical thinking.


What the eff are you talking about dude. The newest conspiracy is that Indians are taking over human resources?



This is not new-news. I suppose if you are a teacher or janitor at QT, this might come as a surprise, but it's a thing. Especially in tech.

It happens at a lower level in HOAs in Frisco, for example.

Indians, in general, have a preference for hiring Indians, of preferable castes. That's why there is so much scam and fraud from H1B.

Again, if we are trying to get the best and brightest from all nations, the world over, why are an absurd percentage of them from India? You would expect them to be naturally distributed across some countries.

I work at a F500 company and none of this is happening there.

Sorry you got replaced.
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TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

Speak only for yourself.

If super-genius level talent was only available from India, why is India still a ****hole that H1-Bs would gladly desert to come over here and take less-than-market wages? Even more than that, when they are sent home to await a visa stamp, they consider themselves "stranded" in the country that they were born into.

India has thousands of years of caste programming, and they are coming over here and still enabling the same caste-behavior as back home, where 70% of the people **** on the sidewalk. (we call that discrimination here).

To even attempt to pretend that it's because these people are enlightened or exceptionally talented, and not that Indians have taken over HR and extended their caste-system here is just an absurd lack of critical thinking.


What the eff are you talking about dude. The newest conspiracy is that Indians are taking over human resources?



This is not new-news. I suppose if you are a teacher or janitor at QT, this might come as a surprise, but it's a thing. Especially in tech.

It happens at a lower level in HOAs in Frisco, for example.

Indians, in general, have a preference for hiring Indians, of preferable castes. That's why there is so much scam and fraud from H1B.

Again, if we are trying to get the best and brightest from all nations, the world over, why are an absurd percentage of them from India? You would expect them to be naturally distributed across some countries.

I work at a F500 company and none of this is happening there.

Sorry you got replaced.


It happened at my former F500 company. I was not replaced but our IT department was. This is a known thing in F500 world. Maybe you are the outlier.
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TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

This is an incredibly fat and lazy take.

Does that make you right?
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TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

Speak only for yourself.

If super-genius level talent was only available from India, why is India still a ****hole that H1-Bs would gladly desert to come over here and take less-than-market wages? Even more than that, when they are sent home to await a visa stamp, they consider themselves "stranded" in the country that they were born into.

India has thousands of years of caste programming, and they are coming over here and still enabling the same caste-behavior as back home, where 70% of the people **** on the sidewalk. (we call that discrimination here).

To even attempt to pretend that it's because these people are enlightened or exceptionally talented, and not that Indians have taken over HR and extended their caste-system here is just an absurd lack of critical thinking.


What the eff are you talking about dude. The newest conspiracy is that Indians are taking over human resources?



This is not new-news. I suppose if you are a teacher or janitor at QT, this might come as a surprise, but it's a thing. Especially in tech.

It happens at a lower level in HOAs in Frisco, for example.

Indians, in general, have a preference for hiring Indians, of preferable castes. That's why there is so much scam and fraud from H1B.

Again, if we are trying to get the best and brightest from all nations, the world over, why are an absurd percentage of them from India? You would expect them to be naturally distributed across some countries.

I work at a F500 company and none of this is happening there.

Sorry you got replaced.

Are you in a heavily regulated industry? HealthCare is one area where this rarely happens.
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TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TxAG#2011 said:

Americans are fat and lazy. This is no surprise

Speak only for yourself.

If super-genius level talent was only available from India, why is India still a ****hole that H1-Bs would gladly desert to come over here and take less-than-market wages? Even more than that, when they are sent home to await a visa stamp, they consider themselves "stranded" in the country that they were born into.

India has thousands of years of caste programming, and they are coming over here and still enabling the same caste-behavior as back home, where 70% of the people **** on the sidewalk. (we call that discrimination here).

To even attempt to pretend that it's because these people are enlightened or exceptionally talented, and not that Indians have taken over HR and extended their caste-system here is just an absurd lack of critical thinking.


What the eff are you talking about dude. The newest conspiracy is that Indians are taking over human resources?



This is not new-news. I suppose if you are a teacher or janitor at QT, this might come as a surprise, but it's a thing. Especially in tech.

It happens at a lower level in HOAs in Frisco, for example.

Indians, in general, have a preference for hiring Indians, of preferable castes. That's why there is so much scam and fraud from H1B.

Again, if we are trying to get the best and brightest from all nations, the world over, why are an absurd percentage of them from India? You would expect them to be naturally distributed across some countries.

I work at a F500 company and none of this is happening there.

Sorry you got replaced.


You're either Indian yourself or you work in an industry insulated from this scam. Sounds like the people 7 years ago defending HR and saying they weren't making DEI hires.
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