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KentK93 said:

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I don't know why so many Americans think France is an ally because they seem to take every opportunity to stab the US in the back.


France Struck a Deal With Iran Over Strait of Hormuz? A Stab in the Back Again?

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My grandfather served in WWII and he always said he trusted the Germans more than the French

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My uncle was killed outside of Bad Neustadt, Germany on 7 April 1945 and he was buried in a consecrated Allied cemetery in France. Two years later, some ******* French government bureaucrats decided the land would be better used as a vineyard and my uncle's body was disinterred and brought to the U.S. My grandparents were devastated.

Do we still owe them for their help during the American Revolution?

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Do we still owe them for their help during the American Revolution?

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Nah. They weren't motivated by helping us as much as they were hurting the British.

Minables...

JUST IN: French President Macron calls on medium-sized powers to “join forces and stand up” to the U.S. & China.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) April 3, 2026

Beldar Conehead be like

"We Don't Come From France "

That's not what he said. He said we were kicked out of France not NATO. And he didn't say France got us in Vietnam.

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JUST IN: French President Macron calls on medium-sized powers to “join forces and stand up” to the U.S. & China.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) April 3, 2026

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Goodness. This is the equivalent of pron blasting TexAgs on your way out.

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I don't know why so many Americans think France is an ally because they seem to take every opportunity to stab the US in the back.


France Struck a Deal With Iran Over Strait of Hormuz? A Stab in the Back Again?

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Europe is dead. It is a muslim continent now.

Israel had already announced it will no longer sell its high-tech defense and military hardware to France, and now UAE announces it's not funding the new French fighter jet.

Good for Israel and UAE on their proper responses to President Macron's treachery in supporting Hamas… https://t.co/wEGz7BsuVL

— Adam Mossoff (@AdamMossoff) April 4, 2026

The French will wind (quietly) up groveling to Tel Aviv eventually, and paying the Israeli's anyway, as the Spanish did.

Spain passed a law banning trade in defense materials with Israel. Right away, it learned that Airbus, which accounts for 60% of Spain's air exports, cannot operate without Israeli tech and exempted it, gutting the law. So much of what Europe does today is pure virtue signaling.

— Uri Kurlianchik (@VerminusM) April 3, 2026

#Spain grants Airbus exceptional permission to produce aircraft and drones using Israeli technology at its Spanish plants even though it has banned military and dual-use products from #Israel two months ago over its war in #Gaza.https://t.co/482sftEpZi

— Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng) December 30, 2025

European aerospace/defense industry is a much bigger mess than many realize. We also cut off the French and Germans from using our ground-to-ground missiles in their so-called 'indigenous' MLRS style systems recently, which they are hilariously angry about.

One thing I will grant them is that they have some outfits that make destroyers/frigates efficiently (including the French), compared to our own but that is more a reflection of the USN's long-term mismanagement than anything else.

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One thing I will grant them is that they have some outfits that make destroyers/frigates efficiently (including the French), compared to our own but that is more a reflection of the USN's long-term mismanagement than anything else.

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I really hope President Trump fixes USN's ship building because it down right embarrassing!

Agreed. I haven't been real excited by the progress though, fwiw.

This is a hilarious thrashing;

I am and always have been a fan of France. I started studying French in 4th grade. I minored in French in college and love travelling there.

But France today is a problem. France is guided by “France first.” Unlike “America First” which strengthens and benefits the world…

— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) April 4, 2026

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I am and always have been a fan of France. I started studying French in 4th grade. I minored in French in college and love travelling there.

But France today is a problem. France is guided by "France first." Unlike "America First" which strengthens and benefits the world militarily, commercially and morally, France First sells out to the highest bidder. It's the underbelly of French historical collaboration with Nazi Germany. It undermines the West, and Ukraine, as France cuts deals with Russian and is a top buyer of Russian natural gas. It's why they work with the IRGC in Iran so French ships can transit the Straits of Hormuz. There's no one they won't cut a commercial deal with. Their immigration policies have turned their country substantially over to Muslims whose motives and influence are even more problematic.

All that is bad enough. But now they won't give the US overflight rights as we fight in Iran. We don't want their troops or their ships. We want and should have overflight rights.

France is a historical headache for the US and much of the west. French governments relish playing that role.

France is only sometimes an ally.

France is a real problem for the West.

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Ari's been on a tear this weekend.

Should have let the froggies speak German.

I wish more Americans would read this book to understand how French killed Americans during WWII.

Saved. Thanks.

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Ag with kids said:

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France has been a d-bag country for a long time.

We came over TWICE to save their ass in WWI and WWII. We formed NATO and have bases all over Europe.

Then, De Gaulle kicked us out in 1966-67...Ironically while we were getting in a quagmire trying to clean up their **** in SE Asia...

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We have never left NATO, much less been kicked out.

And our adventure in SE Asia is completely our own. France's failure in Indochina may have created a ****ty situation, but we fully chose to become involved long after those events initially occurred. The last thing we need to is absolve our government of Vietnam in any way. They own it and always will.

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I didn't mean kicked out of NATO.

I meant kicked out of FRANCE. We had bases there until De Gaulle kicked us out OF FRANCE in 1966-67.

And whether or not we CHOSE to get involved in SE Asia doesn't mean we weren't cleaning up their **** there. They started it, we tried to fix it, and then...failed.

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I can vouch for that. My dad was stationed in Germany at the time. Thousands of military and their families had to leave France on short notice. BOQs and Enlisted housing across Europe was used to temporarily house the personnel forced to leave France.
France thought they were going to walk into evacuated facilities turn on the lights and use them. Maintenance had other ideas, they removed electrical, plumbing, toilets, sinks, stoves/ovens, and anything they could. Left pretty much empty shells.

How many Americans know this about France:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/07/rainbow-warrior-france-new-zealand-greenpeace-lawsuit-crime.html

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On the evening of July 10, a young Frenchman visited the boat. A birthday party had just ended, and he was offered a piece of cake, chocolate with a jelly-bean rainbow arcing across the frosting. The young man asked after the night's schedule and when the meeting going on belowdeckscaptains of all the flotilla ships planning the sailing schedulemight be over. "I hope you make it to Moruroa," he said as he walked away.
Around 11 p.m., the meeting broke up. While others stayed up for one more drink, Willcox went to bed.
He'd barely fallen asleep when he suddenly awoke in the dark. His cabin was still swaying from a huge jolt. Had he collided with another ship? After months sailing across the vast, empty Pacific, it had been unnerving to navigate into bustling Auckland Harbour, dodging ferries and fishing boats.
But his ship, he remembered, was moored at Marsden Wharf. He'd just gone to bed in his cabin. So if there had been a collision, it wasn't his fault.
But what had that sound been, the whump? It wasn't a typical noise aboard the Rainbow Warrior. Now that he thought about it, he didn't hear anything. Most worryingly, he didn't hear the sound that had filled belowdecks for the past three months at sea: the hum of the ship's generator.
He reached for his glasses on the shelf where he kept them every night. They were gone. So were his clothes, which he remembered draping over the back of the chair by his bed. He found the tipped-over chair only when he tripped on it in the dark. His grasping fingers finally brushed a towel, which he wrapped around himself, stumbling into the hallway.
Through the dim emergency lights, he could see his chief engineer, Davey Edwards, standing at the open engine room door. As Willcox approached, Edwards pointed down to the engine room. "It's over," he said in his Yorkshire accent. "She's done with." When Willcox looked down, he saw nothing but dark water filling the room, already just a few feet from the floor on which they were standing.

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The Frogs beg to use our aircraft carriers whenever theirs is being worked on. So the next time their aircraft carrier named after that ingrate pig de Gaulle is being worked on, we need to tell them they can use ours again to train on. Then right when they get to the U.S., we should tell them the airspace over that carrier is closed. F the Islamic Republic of France!! Looky looky, it looks like we don't have to wait long to return the favor and stick the knife in their back.

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The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle is scheduled to undergo its third and final modernization between 2027 and 2028,

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There is zero chance Trump will forget what the cheese eating surrender monkeys did to us. It is gong to be delicious watching Trump return the favor to the Eurotrash.

Did you know: all five of the US flags planted by the Apollo missions have been bleached white by the UV rays which means now the moon technically belong to France https://t.co/yDiMZ6KeAi

— Melissa Chen (@MsMelChen) April 2, 2026

I've always looked at France being very weak politically.

Now I have been too many places in France before and it's a pretty country and I enjoyed my time there and only had one person to be rude to us because we were American but overall really enjoyed my time there, but their food sucks.

Italian food on the other hand rocks.

I was eating lunch at a small French village just over the border from Geneva when I first understood the basis of the old "Who cut the cheese?" expression. The libtard coworkers I was with raved about how great the food was and I just sat there looking at my plate deciding if it was really worth it to finish anything on my plate.

I must admit that the topless ping-pong matches near the outdoor dining I discovered the next day at our hotel did make the food much more palatable

KentK93 said:

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How many Americans know this about France:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/07/rainbow-warrior-france-new-zealand-greenpeace-lawsuit-crime.html

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On the evening of July 10, a young Frenchman visited the boat. A birthday party had just ended, and he was offered a piece of cake, chocolate with a jelly-bean rainbow arcing across the frosting. The young man asked after the night's schedule and when the meeting going on belowdeckscaptains of all the flotilla ships planning the sailing schedulemight be over. "I hope you make it to Moruroa," he said as he walked away.
Around 11 p.m., the meeting broke up. While others stayed up for one more drink, Willcox went to bed.
He'd barely fallen asleep when he suddenly awoke in the dark. His cabin was still swaying from a huge jolt. Had he collided with another ship? After months sailing across the vast, empty Pacific, it had been unnerving to navigate into bustling Auckland Harbour, dodging ferries and fishing boats.
But his ship, he remembered, was moored at Marsden Wharf. He'd just gone to bed in his cabin. So if there had been a collision, it wasn't his fault.
But what had that sound been, the whump? It wasn't a typical noise aboard the Rainbow Warrior. Now that he thought about it, he didn't hear anything. Most worryingly, he didn't hear the sound that had filled belowdecks for the past three months at sea: the hum of the ship's generator.
He reached for his glasses on the shelf where he kept them every night. They were gone. So were his clothes, which he remembered draping over the back of the chair by his bed. He found the tipped-over chair only when he tripped on it in the dark. His grasping fingers finally brushed a towel, which he wrapped around himself, stumbling into the hallway.
Through the dim emergency lights, he could see his chief engineer, Davey Edwards, standing at the open engine room door. As Willcox approached, Edwards pointed down to the engine room. "It's over," he said in his Yorkshire accent. "She's done with." When Willcox looked down, he saw nothing but dark water filling the room, already just a few feet from the floor on which they were standing.

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The French terror bombing of the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand was under the socialist president, Mitterrand. It's no surprise a socialist government would do something like that.

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I was eating lunch at a small French village just over the border from Geneva when I first understood the basis of the old "Who cut the cheese?" expression. The libtard coworkers I was with raved about how great the food was and I just sat there looking at my plate deciding if it was really worth it to finish anything on my plate.

I must admit that the topless ping-pong matches near the outdoor dining I discovered the next day at our hotel did make the food much more palatable

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I'm hoping they were women playing...

Yes. Yes they were

Ag with kids said:

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France has been a d-bag country for a long time.

We came over TWICE to save their ass in WWI and WWII. We formed NATO and have bases all over Europe.

Then, De Gaulle kicked us out in 1966-67...Ironically while we were getting in a quagmire trying to clean up their **** in SE Asia...

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de Gaulle told Dean Rusk he wanted all US troops out of France. When Rusk relayed the message to LBJ he said "ask him if he's talking about just the live ones, or the ones in cemeteries, too."

Martin Cash said:

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Ag with kids said:

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France has been a d-bag country for a long time.

We came over TWICE to save their ass in WWI and WWII. We formed NATO and have bases all over Europe.

Then, De Gaulle kicked us out in 1966-67...Ironically while we were getting in a quagmire trying to clean up their **** in SE Asia...

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de Gaulle told Dean Rusk he wanted all US troops out of France. When Rusk relayed the message to LBJ he said "ask him if he's talking about just the live ones, or the ones in cemeteries, too."

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That does sound very LBJ-ish...

I didn't like a lot of his policies, but he was a hardass...

I almost wish that LBJ would have had all those in the cemeteries brought back to the US to receive a proper AND RESPECTED burial...

Your post reeks of jealousy. Life is not fair; that is why the brave French are 1 and 0 vs. Greenpeace, and you are not!!!

KentK93 said:

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I don't know why so many Americans think France is an ally because they seem to take every opportunity to stab the US in the back.


France Struck a Deal With Iran Over Strait of Hormuz? A Stab in the Back Again?

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France has not been a real ally since the Suez Canal. They look out for their own interests and only help us when they see a benefit to themselves. That's why we have no military bases there and they are the true colonialists who use Africa to exploit at every turn. NATO is just a tool they use when it suits them, always has been the same as the UN.

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KentK93 said:

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How many Americans know this about France:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/07/rainbow-warrior-france-new-zealand-greenpeace-lawsuit-crime.html

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On the evening of July 10, a young Frenchman visited the boat. A birthday party had just ended, and he was offered a piece of cake, chocolate with a jelly-bean rainbow arcing across the frosting. The young man asked after the night's schedule and when the meeting going on belowdeckscaptains of all the flotilla ships planning the sailing schedulemight be over. "I hope you make it to Moruroa," he said as he walked away.
Around 11 p.m., the meeting broke up. While others stayed up for one more drink, Willcox went to bed.
He'd barely fallen asleep when he suddenly awoke in the dark. His cabin was still swaying from a huge jolt. Had he collided with another ship? After months sailing across the vast, empty Pacific, it had been unnerving to navigate into bustling Auckland Harbour, dodging ferries and fishing boats.
But his ship, he remembered, was moored at Marsden Wharf. He'd just gone to bed in his cabin. So if there had been a collision, it wasn't his fault.
But what had that sound been, the whump? It wasn't a typical noise aboard the Rainbow Warrior. Now that he thought about it, he didn't hear anything. Most worryingly, he didn't hear the sound that had filled belowdecks for the past three months at sea: the hum of the ship's generator.
He reached for his glasses on the shelf where he kept them every night. They were gone. So were his clothes, which he remembered draping over the back of the chair by his bed. He found the tipped-over chair only when he tripped on it in the dark. His grasping fingers finally brushed a towel, which he wrapped around himself, stumbling into the hallway.
Through the dim emergency lights, he could see his chief engineer, Davey Edwards, standing at the open engine room door. As Willcox approached, Edwards pointed down to the engine room. "It's over," he said in his Yorkshire accent. "She's done with." When Willcox looked down, he saw nothing but dark water filling the room, already just a few feet from the floor on which they were standing.

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The French terror bombing of the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand was under the socialist president, Mitterrand. It's no surprise a socialist government would do something like that.

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I don't recall this story, but I admit to being confused as to which side I'm supposed to support.

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Your post reeks of jealousy. Life is not fair; that is why the brave French are 1 and 0 vs. Greenpeace, and you are not!!!

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2-Shay.

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techno-ag said:

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KentK93 said:

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How many Americans know this about France:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/07/rainbow-warrior-france-new-zealand-greenpeace-lawsuit-crime.html

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On the evening of July 10, a young Frenchman visited the boat. A birthday party had just ended, and he was offered a piece of cake, chocolate with a jelly-bean rainbow arcing across the frosting. The young man asked after the night's schedule and when the meeting going on belowdeckscaptains of all the flotilla ships planning the sailing schedulemight be over. "I hope you make it to Moruroa," he said as he walked away.
Around 11 p.m., the meeting broke up. While others stayed up for one more drink, Willcox went to bed.
He'd barely fallen asleep when he suddenly awoke in the dark. His cabin was still swaying from a huge jolt. Had he collided with another ship? After months sailing across the vast, empty Pacific, it had been unnerving to navigate into bustling Auckland Harbour, dodging ferries and fishing boats.
But his ship, he remembered, was moored at Marsden Wharf. He'd just gone to bed in his cabin. So if there had been a collision, it wasn't his fault.
But what had that sound been, the whump? It wasn't a typical noise aboard the Rainbow Warrior. Now that he thought about it, he didn't hear anything. Most worryingly, he didn't hear the sound that had filled belowdecks for the past three months at sea: the hum of the ship's generator.
He reached for his glasses on the shelf where he kept them every night. They were gone. So were his clothes, which he remembered draping over the back of the chair by his bed. He found the tipped-over chair only when he tripped on it in the dark. His grasping fingers finally brushed a towel, which he wrapped around himself, stumbling into the hallway.
Through the dim emergency lights, he could see his chief engineer, Davey Edwards, standing at the open engine room door. As Willcox approached, Edwards pointed down to the engine room. "It's over," he said in his Yorkshire accent. "She's done with." When Willcox looked down, he saw nothing but dark water filling the room, already just a few feet from the floor on which they were standing.

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The French terror bombing of the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand was under the socialist president, Mitterrand. It's no surprise a socialist government would do something like that.

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I don't recall this story, but I admit to being confused as to which side I'm supposed to support.

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It's ironic because environmentalists love them some socialism.

Martin Cash said:

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Ag with kids said:

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France has been a d-bag country for a long time.

We came over TWICE to save their ass in WWI and WWII. We formed NATO and have bases all over Europe.

Then, De Gaulle kicked us out in 1966-67...Ironically while we were getting in a quagmire trying to clean up their **** in SE Asia...

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de Gaulle told Dean Rusk he wanted all US troops out of France. When Rusk relayed the message to LBJ he said "ask him if he's talking about just the live ones, or the ones in cemeteries, too."

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I answered that question at the top of this page.

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KentK93 said:

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I don't know why so many Americans think France is an ally because they seem to take every opportunity to stab the US in the back.


France Struck a Deal With Iran Over Strait of Hormuz? A Stab in the Back Again?

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France has not been a real ally since the Suez Canal. They look out for their own interests and only help us when they see a benefit to themselves. That's why we have no military bases there and they are the true colonialists who use Africa to exploit at every turn. NATO is just a tool they use when it suits them, always has been the same as the UN.

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I really don't think France was ever an ally. France only looks out for France. I can't wait to celebrate Cinco de Mayo this year!