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UK is part of NATO, the Falklands are part of the UK. An attack on the UK is an attack on NATO? Did I do that right?

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I don't believe there has been an attack

I can't wait for this weeks SNL UK.

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To be fair to him, the state of their Navy has been a 30+ years slow burn down. No PM is going to fix that in a couple years.

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But he is not even trying.

He'll absolutely stop the evil US from misgendering or from taking Greenland, though.

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DCPD158 said:

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UK is part of NATO, the Falklands are part of the UK. An attack on the UK is an attack on NATO? Did I do that right?

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I don't believe there has been an attack

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Never said there was, nor did anyone else in the thread, so of course, it is an implied, if...

File this under when UK had a proper Navy:

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Case in point: Working in Copenhagen harbor, marine archaeologists have discovered the wreck of the Dannebroge, a Danish man-of-war that was sunk over 200 years ago by ships of the British Royal Navy. The Dannebroge was sunk during the Battle of Copenhagen in 1801, and here's the really cool thing: This ship was the primary target of the Royal Navy, and it's a near-certainty that Lord Horatio Nelson himself laid eyes - well, eye - on the ship before it went down.

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https://redstate.com/wardclark/2026/04/08/nelsons-victory-unearthed-danish-warship-dannebrog-found-after-225-years-in-copenhagen-harbor-n2201101

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It's fascinating to watch their fall real-time while wondering where all the real men are over there.
Someone should be fomenting something big

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GB downfall began with the massive loss of males during WW1. If you were a male between 20-35 in 1920 you were either dead, wounded and/or had massive PTSD.

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It's fascinating to watch their fall real-time while wondering where all the real men are over there.
Someone should be fomenting something big

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GB downfall began with the massive loss of males during WW1. If you were a male between 20-35 in 1920 you were either dead, wounded and/or had massive PTSD.

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And yet they took back the Falklands in 1982, despite losing HMS Sheffield early on, and with only 2 small aircraft carriers (Hermes from WWII) and HMS Invincible.

Its amazing what strong leadership and a competent military can do.

Man UK is so weak under Sir Keir:

Hiding behind international law:

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Now it can be revealed that Lord Hermer, the Attorney General, has given legal advice about how the ships could be tackled in British territorial waters to prevent the flow of sanctioned oil to Russia's allies.
Under his advice, ships can be boarded by special forces and officers from the National Crime Agency (NCA), but no such operations have taken place because of concerns about breaching international maritime law, which sets a high legal bar for a state to board a foreign vessel.

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On Thursday, Boris Johnson, the former prime minister, told The Telegraph that Sir Keir had to stop the shadow fleet and recover "some of the respect Britain has lost recently" over its military response to the war in the Middle East.
He said: "I think it's pathetic. I don't know why we don't board these sanction-busting ships. They are fuelling Putin's war machine and funding his slaughter of innocent Ukrainians and we have a golden opportunity to stop it.

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Free Telegraph article on why UK Navy can't take dark fleet ships:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/e8e58ed0f79ce64c

Re: Falklands, it's a relic of the British empire. HOWEVER in the Falklands aka Malvinas war the overwhelming majority of residents of the "disputed" islands considered themselves British and were happy to be British subjects / citizens.

If that is no longer the case, and I have no idea either way, they should have a referendum and if they vote their own form of Brexit then Westminster should negotiate a peaceful and legal transfer to Argentina.

IF they care about the people at all, if it is driven by access to resources they may not GAF and will keep telling Argentina to pound sand until it goes hot.

I feel certain Trump as POTUS would support Argentina, and can see a Dem POTUS doing so as well.

BTW, highly recommend a trip to Argentina, Buenos Aires, Mendoza, Bariloche, and Patagonia, all fantastic and the Argentines are great people. It's also very interesting how they speak Spanish with an Italian accent, have French architecture in BA, and many English customs…. and very nice women folk. I have traveled all over Europe (and Asia) and Argentina is BY FAR the best trip I have ever been to.

having lived in Argentina for several years, as far as i remember reading the residents themselves are still not asking to be Argentinean. and i don't blame them, i would argue that would make their lives materially worse, to be honest. a ****ty currency, overwhelming bureaucracy, economic inflation destroying your income, etc.

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Re: Falklands, it's a relic of the British empire. HOWEVER in the Falklands aka Malvinas war the overwhelming majority of residents of the "disputed" islands considered themselves British and were happy to be British subjects / citizens.

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The real prize is not a few 'subjects' or an overwhelming sheep population. Rather it is the North Falkland Basin with an estimated reserve of 800 million bbls of OIL. GB was hard pressed to prevail in the '80s war and as demonstrated recently they can't even get one ship into the Med.

Man the the Royal Navy is outsourced jobs to the RFA:

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Sailors tracking Russian warships through the Channel are to go on strike next week.
Personnel from the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA), the civilian support wing of the Royal Navy, are set to walk out on Thursday in a long-running row over pay.
The Telegraph revealed on Wednesday that seafarers on RFA Tideforce, a 39,000-ton tanker, were deployed to follow a heavily armed Russian frigate off the south coast instead of a British warship.
Union bosses have warned that staff have endured years of substandard wages while the demands facing crews continue to increase.
Pressures on the Navy have led to the RFA filling some gaps left by a lack of available vessels to track Vladimir Putin's warships as they menace the UK's coastline.
It is unclear whether the walkout will affect Britain's ability to shadow Russian warships if Putin sends more through the Channel.
Before next week's industrial action, Eddie Dempsey, the general secretary of the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT), warned that the Ministry of Defence (MoD) needed to offer more than a 4.5 per cent pay rise if it wanted to avoid civilian staff quitting the Armed Forces.

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Free article from Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6c81d316ff45e17a

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It just keeps getting worse:

Telegraph (paywall)

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This week an investigation by The Spectator found that Universal Credit (UC) recipients were receiving massive discounts to visit tourist attractions apparently funded by those of us who are required to pay the full fee.

A family of four would normally pay 111 to visit the Tower of London. However, families receiving UC (or certain other benefits) can get a 107 discount, reducing the total cost to just 4. The same support extends to food, with the Tower's caf offering discounted meals such as fish and chips at half price compared to the usual 16.95. Similar schemes are available across many of London's major attractions. It casts the idea of a "leisure class" in an entirely new light.

What we have, in reality, is a topsy-turvy Britain where the strivers are subsidising the skivers. And before any Lefty mentions it yes, I know 33 per cent of people on Universal Credit are in employment. But millions more aren't.

Let me be clear, as Starmer might say. I am not for a minute suggesting that people on benefits shouldn't be able to do whatever they want with their spare time. But since the taxpayer is already paying them not to work, why on earth are we subsidising their leisure pursuits on top? What next, workers paying the Netflix subscriptions of non-workers? Why not pay directly for their supermarket shopping while we're at it? It's getting completely out of control.

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Free link to the Telegraph article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/7f69bc5bd70847b5

Starmer loses again!

🚨 BREAKING: Keir Starmer has dropped the Bill to hand over the Chagos Islands to Mauritius after Donald Trump withdrew his support

[@thetimes]

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) April 10, 2026

Britain is just crazy at this time:

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Displaying the flag is now treated as a hate crime, because it can make certain peopleyou know whofeel nervous or something. It doesn't matter that nobody fears the English flag, really. The real fear is that the Islamists will start a riot, because they are savages who want to conquer the UK.

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More information:

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/04/10/britains-suicide-continues-n3813774

This is sad but funny because it basically means England is back to fighting wars like in earlier centuries. When kings would run out of money, they would call a truce, negotiate a settlement of conquered land and captured nobles at the time, and call it a day. Then do it all over again when they got more money.

Uh oh. Looks like Keir now has an Epstein scandal on his hands.

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U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Monday he unintentionally misled lawmakers by claiming that his pick for ambassador to Washington, Peter Mandelson, had full security clearance, as his government grapples with a new crisis tied to Jeffrey Epstein.

The debacle has quickly morphed into a full-blown scandal, with Starmer facing calls from all the opposition parties to quit. Several opposition lawmakers said he had intentionally lied to Parliament, which is considered a resigning offense in the U.K. On Monday, Starmer denied this but accepted he should never have appointed Mandelson to the role.

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Uh oh. Looks like Keir now has an Epstein scandal on his hands.

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U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Monday he unintentionally misled lawmakers by claiming that his pick for ambassador to Washington, Peter Mandelson, had full security clearance, as his government grapples with a new crisis tied to Jeffrey Epstein.

The debacle has quickly morphed into a full-blown scandal, with Starmer facing calls from all the opposition parties to quit. Several opposition lawmakers said he had intentionally lied to Parliament, which is considered a resigning offense in the U.K. On Monday, Starmer denied this but accepted he should never have appointed Mandelson to the role.

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When that hypocrite was leader of the opposition, he repeatedly called for ministers to resign for unintentionally misleading parliament as a "breach of the ministerial code." Now, it's someone else's fault, and no reason for him to resign. They call him "Two Tier Kier" for a reason.

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Several sources have claimed that soldiers from 22 SAS, the Army'smost elite fighting force, have applied for premature voluntary release.
The Telegraph is withholding the exact figure for security reasons, but at least two squadrons, D and G, are believed to have been affected. Several SAS sources described the losses as significant and a "threat to national security".
Insiders say the resignations have been driven by outrage over recent war crime investigations into Afghanistan and Syria, which have been described as "witch hunts".

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The treatment of elderly Northern Ireland veterans who served in the SAS has also contributed, insiders say. They are viewed as having been hounded through the courts on vexatious claims, some of which have been described as "ludicrous" by a judge.
Among those understood to have resigned are several senior warrant officers, who are the backbone of the special forces and among the most experienced troops in the regiment. A number are understood to have applied for release "on principle" just before Christmas.
"Morale is s--- at the moment," one insider with knowledge of the recent losses said, while another said there was "considerable disquiet" in the regiment as a result.

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Read the rest here free link to the story:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/4e8656b2e4efe188

If the SAS units are depleted-- do what liberals here in USA always do, lower the standards, hit the streets for bodies and sign them up! Problem solved!

Man this video brings the receipts on taxes, youth unemployment, productivity, youth mental health issues, education issues. Now I understand why UK would be 51st state behind Mississippi. Then there his take down of Net Zero policies is best.

Did I hear Cruz correctly on yesterday's Podcast? Or perhaps it was Fridays...

UK GDP per capita LOWER than Mississippi... This they would be the POOREST state in the US. For reference, Canada is above Mississippi...

That's correct. I'm not sure that per capita GDP is the best way to describe wealth/productivity because of inflated borrowing but it is one way.

Watch the video right above your post and you will know why the UK is in bad shape.