"WSJ should learn how to take a joke" - Trump pardons

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10:10a, 4/11/26
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Front page of this weekend's WSJ - "Trump Promises Mass Pardons to Staff Before Leaving Office"

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https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-promises-mass-pardons-to-staff-before-leaving-office-d7274d32?mod=hp_lead_pos3

Trump has been using variations of "I'll pardon everyone who has come within 200 feet of the Oval..." for months, getting lots of laughs.

WSJ front page "exclusive" says he is serious. And it is all a part of a history of his abuse of pardons.

"The Wall Street Journal should learn to take a joke, however, the President's pardon power is absolute," Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, said in response to the story.

Biden's handlers set the precedent for presidential pardons, including his son who was among other failures of character the family bagman. And let's not forget about Fauci and the others.

We've seen the Justice department's long standing vendetta against Trump, over-prosecution of conservatives (J6) , and prosecution of Trump first term staff.

At this point, he should feel free to protect those that are trying to turn things around for this country. No Joke.

ETA - wording
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10:18a, 4/11/26
If the GOP loses in 2028, Trump should pardon everyone, step down on his last day, swear in Vance and have Vance pardon Trump.
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10:19a, 4/11/26
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he should. The left (including the prosecutors and the judges in the justice system) have shown they will show no mercy to go after trump and people in his orbit. They will twist laws etc. They have done more to ruin the credibility of the justice system than anything in memory.

The trump DOJ should also charge Fauci and/or some of Biden's family members (that pardon with all its randomness* is a roadmap to the Biden family fraud empire) and test the theory of the preemptive pardons. Because when Trump does the same, the left (again, including prosecutors and judges), will say they are invalid if it hasn't been tested yet.

*James B. Biden (brother), Sara Jones Biden (sister-in-law), Valerie Biden Owens (sister), John T. Owens (brother-in-law), and Francis W. Biden (brother)
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10:39a, 4/11/26
WSJ has gone left, no question. Everyday they have a front page or headline story bashing Trump and his actions. Nothing remotely like the free pass they gave Biden while claiming "we're a non political economic publication".

I am a 40yr subscriber most likely canceling when subscription runs out.
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11:13a, 4/11/26
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Mark Rich buying a pardon from the Clintons was abuse. Malicious prosecution of staff members is abuse. Protecting your staff from said malicious prosecution is a (sad but necessary) remedy for the abuse.
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11:18a, 4/11/26
Presidential pardons should be banned. Lots of criminals get through who deserve their sentences.
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11:22a, 4/11/26
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Presidential pardons should be expanded. Since Democrats have shown a willingness to persecute those they disagree with via lawfare, R presidents should issue blanket pardons for all those who worked for them from here on out.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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11:23a, 4/11/26
Do it like the Democrats would : let auto-pen do it.
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In reply to KerrAg76 • 11:25a, 4/11/26
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KerrAg76 said:
WSJ has gone left, no question. Everyday they have a front page or headline story bashing Trump and his actions. Nothing remotely like the free pass they gave Biden while claiming "we're a non political economic publication".

I am a 40yr subscriber most likely canceling when subscription runs out.


If you think WSJ is left you can't tolerate anything outside of a very far right bubble.

I'm deport them all, bomb then all, **** them all, far right MAGA but I'm not living in an echo chamber.

I know what the problems and concerns are and I have them too but I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.
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11:28a, 4/11/26
You know who else used to joke a lot?

Hitler!!!

Interesting company he's keeping!!!!
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In reply to KerrAg76 • 11:29a, 4/11/26
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KerrAg76 said:
WSJ has gone left, no question. Everyday they have a front page or headline story bashing Trump and his actions. Nothing remotely like the free pass they gave Biden while claiming "we're a non political economic publication".

I am a 40yr subscriber most likely canceling when subscription runs out.

They are definitely more left wing - the chief is British. She also is seeking to be more provocative, to increase engagement /retention.

I am still paying a very low rate ($10/month including hardcopy delivery), but the objectivity that used to be the hallmark of the paper is gone, and I will likely drop it as well.

To give the devil her due, last time I looked WSJ is about the only US newspaper with increased subscriptions.
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 11:29a, 4/11/26
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I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.


You're voting for Trump in 2028!?

Bold move, Cotton ...
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 11:30a, 4/11/26
I don't live in a far right bubble...but I do expect journalism to be fair and report factually...not "according to a source" and everyday we must have a negative Trump story because "feelings"... they were impartial through the Obama/Biden stuff (transitory inflation, pallets of cash to Iran, Afghanistan withdrawal) but constant negative drumbeat towrds Trump...that indicates to me they've gone left
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BigRobSA said:
CrackerJackAg said:
I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.


You're voting for Trump in 2028!?

Bold move, Cotton ...


If he runs. Otherwise I'll vote as far right as possible despite any concerns.
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In reply to KerrAg76 • 11:31a, 4/11/26
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KerrAg76 said:
I don't live in a far right bubble...but I do expect journalism to be fair and report factually...not "according to a source" and everyday we must have a negative Trump story because "feelings"... they were impartial through the Obama/Biden stuff (transitory inflation, pallets of cash to Iran, Afghanistan withdrawal) but constant negative drumbeat towrds Trump...that indicates to me they've gone left


WSJ is balanced. Balanced doesn't mean every article is right. They are going to have some articles that are left leaning.

Hence…. The balance.

So you stuck with the Wall Street Journal for 40 years through the "Obama and Biden lovefest" but you were going to cancel your subscription now because things haven't quite gone the way we would like them to and the Wall Street Journal is calling some of those things out.

Is there any possibility you're just getting cranky in your old age?

My dad's doing the same thing it's just a natural part of life and it's important that you recognize that you might just be getting ornery.
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 11:34a, 4/11/26
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BigRobSA said:
CrackerJackAg said:
I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.


You're voting for Trump in 2028!?

Bold move, Cotton ...


If he runs.


Limiting Trump, I see!

Reee3333EeeeEeEE333!!!
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BigRobSA said:
CrackerJackAg said:
BigRobSA said:
CrackerJackAg said:
I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.


You're voting for Trump in 2028!?

Bold move, Cotton ...


If he runs.


Limiting Trump, I see!

Reee3333EeeeEeEE333!!!


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In reply to Over_ed • 11:37a, 4/11/26
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I'm hoping for a Trump pardon but I'll never say what it's for.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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In reply to Over_ed • 11:38a, 4/11/26
He will have to pardon anyone and everyone who worked for him. The Dems will go after them with made up lawfare BS.

Biden already set the precedent, but he did it for people who should be prosecuted, e.g. Fauci!
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 11:39a, 4/11/26
CrackerJackAg said:
KerrAg76 said:
WSJ has gone left, no question. Everyday they have a front page or headline story bashing Trump and his actions. Nothing remotely like the free pass they gave Biden while claiming "we're a non political economic publication".

I am a 40yr subscriber most likely canceling when subscription runs out.


If you think WSJ is left you can't tolerate anything outside of a very far right bubble.

I'm deport them all, bomb then all, **** them all, far right MAGA but I'm not living in an echo chamber.

I know what the problems and concerns are and I have them too but I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.



It's definitely solid left now. The transition started during Trump's first term.
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annie88 said:
I'm hoping for a Trump pardon but I'll never say what it's for.

You can DM me. I wouldn't tell. :-)
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CrackerJackAg said:
KerrAg76 said:
WSJ has gone left, no question. Everyday they have a front page or headline story bashing Trump and his actions. Nothing remotely like the free pass they gave Biden while claiming "we're a non political economic publication".

I am a 40yr subscriber most likely canceling when subscription runs out.


If you think WSJ is left you can't tolerate anything outside of a very far right bubble.

I'm deport them all, bomb then all, **** them all, far right MAGA but I'm not living in an echo chamber.

I know what the problems and concerns are and I have them too but I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.

WSJ has gone left a bit, they're center left now. Their opinion section is still center right, though.
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Ag with kids said:
CrackerJackAg said:
KerrAg76 said:
WSJ has gone left, no question. Everyday they have a front page or headline story bashing Trump and his actions. Nothing remotely like the free pass they gave Biden while claiming "we're a non political economic publication".

I am a 40yr subscriber most likely canceling when subscription runs out.


If you think WSJ is left you can't tolerate anything outside of a very far right bubble.

I'm deport them all, bomb then all, **** them all, far right MAGA but I'm not living in an echo chamber.

I know what the problems and concerns are and I have them too but I also wouldn't change my vote and will vote the same next time.

WSJ has gone left a bit. Their opinion section is still center right, though.


I agree. I think they are fairly balanced. I don't have to agree with everything. I'm ok hearing a centered or slightly opposing political viewpoint.

Outside of topics like trans ideology, woke ideology and stuff like that. Always opposed 100% to even hearing that.
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The WSJ is slamming this administration like no other, post Watergate. Absolutely no question.

How much of this is editorial direction to be more appealing to younger readers, and how much is due to inherent leftist bias - I can't tell. But the effect is the same.
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I agree. I think they are fairly balanced. I don't have to agree with everything. I'm ok hearing a centered or slightly opposing political viewpoint.

Outside of topics like trans ideology, woke ideology and stuff like that. Always opposed 100% to even hearing that.

I disagree.

How's life in Learning-How-To-Be-A-Marxist camp, Stalin?
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Over_ed said:
The WSJ is slamming this administration like no other, post Watergate. Absolutely no question.

How much of this is editorial direction to be more appealing to younger readers, and how much is due to inherent leftist bias - I can't tell. But the effect is the same.

For what?

You know, Trump isn't some conservative wunderkind. Not even a little bit. "Slamming him" is often warranted.

He's solid on immigration, and foreign policy, too, usually. But domestic fiscal policy? Nope. What is WSJ known for (or what is it supposed to be, historically)? Financial things.

Trump deserves being "slammed"...a lot... for his fiscal liberalism.
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BigRobSA said:
CrackerJackAg said:

I agree. I think they are fairly balanced. I don't have to agree with everything. I'm ok hearing a centered or slightly opposing political viewpoint.

Outside of topics like trans ideology, woke ideology and stuff like that. Always opposed 100% to even hearing that.

I disagree.

How's life in Learning-How-To-Be-A-Marxist camp, Stalin?


I'm just out here learning & trying to keep the means of production from being used against my fellow comrades!!
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BigRobSA said:
Over_ed said:
The WSJ is slamming this administration like no other, post Watergate. Absolutely no question.

How much of this is editorial direction to be more appealing to younger readers, and how much is due to inherent leftist bias - I can't tell. But the effect is the same.

For what?

You know, Trump isn't some conservative wunderkind. Not even a little bit. "Slamming him" is often warranted.

He's solid on immigration, and foreign policy, too, usually. But domestic fiscal policy? Nope. What is WSJ known for (or what is it supposed to be, historically)? Financial things.

Trump deserves being "slammed"...a lot... for his fiscal liberalism.


This…

I support him 100% but he has some remarkable **** ups on record.
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CrackerJackAg said:
BigRobSA said:
Over_ed said:
The WSJ is slamming this administration like no other, post Watergate. Absolutely no question.

How much of this is editorial direction to be more appealing to younger readers, and how much is due to inherent leftist bias - I can't tell. But the effect is the same.

For what?

You know, Trump isn't some conservative wunderkind. Not even a little bit. "Slamming him" is often warranted.

He's solid on immigration, and foreign policy, too, usually. But domestic fiscal policy? Nope. What is WSJ known for (or what is it supposed to be, historically)? Financial things.

Trump deserves being "slammed"...a lot... for his fiscal liberalism.


This…

I support him 100% but he has some remarkable **** ups on record. (my bolding)

BTW, me too.

But WSJ is not hitting as much for economic as other issues.

Again, they are taking an adversarial tone to drive readership, but I just have no confidence they would be as aggressive with the new news leadership and a dem president.
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Over_ed said:
CrackerJackAg said:
BigRobSA said:
Over_ed said:
The WSJ is slamming this administration like no other, post Watergate. Absolutely no question.

How much of this is editorial direction to be more appealing to younger readers, and how much is due to inherent leftist bias - I can't tell. But the effect is the same.

For what?

You know, Trump isn't some conservative wunderkind. Not even a little bit. "Slamming him" is often warranted.

He's solid on immigration, and foreign policy, too, usually. But domestic fiscal policy? Nope. What is WSJ known for (or what is it supposed to be, historically)? Financial things.

Trump deserves being "slammed"...a lot... for his fiscal liberalism.


This…

I support him 100% but he has some remarkable **** ups on record. (my bolding)

BTW, me too.

But WSJ is not hitting as much for economic as other issues.

Again, they are taking an adversarial tone to drive readership, but I just have no confidence they would be as aggressive with the new news leadership and a dem president.
Yeah they're probably just trying to pick up subscribers who defected from the Washington Post recently.

Their newsroom has always slanted left. Editorials slant right. Been that way for years. Still the best national newspaper.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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techno-ag said:
Over_ed said:
CrackerJackAg said:
BigRobSA said:
Over_ed said:
The WSJ is slamming this administration like no other, post Watergate. Absolutely no question.

How much of this is editorial direction to be more appealing to younger readers, and how much is due to inherent leftist bias - I can't tell. But the effect is the same.

For what?

You know, Trump isn't some conservative wunderkind. Not even a little bit. "Slamming him" is often warranted.

He's solid on immigration, and foreign policy, too, usually. But domestic fiscal policy? Nope. What is WSJ known for (or what is it supposed to be, historically)? Financial things.

Trump deserves being "slammed"...a lot... for his fiscal liberalism.


This…

I support him 100% but he has some remarkable **** ups on record. (my bolding)

BTW, me too.

But WSJ is not hitting as much for economic as other issues.

Again, they are taking an adversarial tone to drive readership, but I just have no confidence they would be as aggressive with the new news leadership and a dem president.

Yeah they're probably just trying to pick up subscribers who defected from the Washington Post recently.

Their newsroom has always slanted left. Editorials slant right. Been that way for years. Still the best national newspaper.

I agree, but that is a really low bar. Perhaps we need some like the brits used to have, before they killed off the Page 3 girls. j/k. I think.
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