Kash Patel files $250M defamation lawsuit against The Atlantic

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Windy City Ag said:

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The Atlantic "published these statements with actual malice," the suit states.
"Actual malice" is the high legal standard that public figures must meet to prevail in a defamation case. It means that the author either knew a claim was false or displayed "reckless disregard of whether it was false or not."
Defamation cases often fall apart because the plaintiffs fail to prove "actual malice."


I will go with the Atlantic on this one as Kash likely does not want a full vetting of his actions. The Trump WSJ suit was dismissed for no "actual malice" basis and that is probably what will happen here as well.

My favorite part of that article, by the way, was Patel forgetting how to login to his computer and immediately assuming he had been canned.

I bet you also went with Trump peed on hookers and Hunter Bidens laptop was part of Russian disinformation. I mean it was published in the media after all.
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Windy City Ag said:

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Odds are that every one of them is a deep state Democrat with an axe to grind. Legacy media loves to hide behind the cloak of anonymity to cover for their lack of actual reporting skills. It's almost a certainty that this is made up BS designed to add to the anti-Trump narrative.


Plenty of Republicans find the guy to be unstable and incompetent.

There was a huge posse of Republicans that really wanted the Senate to reject his appointment.

Nobody is universally loved...

Republicans need to leave behind an army of easter-egg bureaucrats to undermine the next Dem admin.

Flip the script.
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nice posts Windy... here is your big boat of fail...



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Republicans Chris Wray and Robert Mueller were serious, proven professionals with integrity and credibility who earned the respect of the courts, Congress, US law enforcement, our US natsec and intelligence community, both major political parties, and international law enforcement. That is why they were excellent choices to be FBI Directors.

In comparison, Kash Patel is a clownshow. Just like Noem, Bongino, and Bondi, Kash Patel is another corrupt, inept, incompetent embarrassment who was chosen based on his loyalty to Trump and his willingness to lie and coverup and do unethical actions for Trump. He is an amateurish, unstable, unethical, bumbling internet podshow act with no credibility.

If Senate Rs truly want Trump to succeed, they should be more stringent and selective in the confirmation process. Sometimes the best way a Senator majority can serve a President from their own party is to tell him "no".

Is this a parody? Mueller and Ray? Are you deliberately funny or do you create comedy gold like this by accident?
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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Blaming Deep-state Democrats or RINOs is a WOW moment.

Do any of you hard-core Trumpers actually trust and believe in Kash Patel?. That he is actually doing a good job other than covering up for anything Trump is doing?

Just look at the guy and what he said and did for a living before being picked to be FBI director.


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Just look at the guy and what he said and did for a living before being picked to be FBI director.



What you don't like his clothing line?

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I think he is as about as competent as Wray. Did you call out Wray for refusing to release text messages? If not then you might want to sit this one out
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AgDev01 said:

91AggieLawyer said:



If the former, please give SPECIFIC examples of where he "lie(d) and cover(ed)up" and did "unethical actions" for Trump. Also, give examples of the bolded sentence.



How about testifying before congress that there is no credible evidence that anyone else was involved in Epstein's Sex Trafficking operations aside from Epstein and Maxwell?

That has 100% been proved to be a lie.


Can you PLEASE pull up the exact quote/source. I'm not engaging in argument over YOUR assertions. Not to mention accepting your belief of "proved." Proved how?
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Just look at the guy and what he said and did for a living before being picked to be FBI director.

are you referring to his uncovering FISA abuse? because that was pretty cool.
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AgNav93 said:

I would rather Barney Fife lead the FBI than anyone appointed by the Obama or Biden administrations or any democrat for that matter.

This statement is not sufficiently sycophantic. Here's a MAGA approved version…

"I would rather Otis Campbell lead the FBI than anyone appointed by the Obama or Biden administrations or any democrat for that matter."

And for all intents and purposes, Kash Patel ~= Otis Campbell. So much winning. And all the partying keeps Kash from doing anything too destructive.

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instead of just not abusing his power by treating the FBI (taxpayer funded) jet as an uber for he and his gold-digging sex toy, hes tried virtually every maneuver possible to try to get the flight data from the jet to be confidential.

but people keep finding ways to get it out there to the public though, and he keeps doing exactly what he criticized wray for doing. im sure he was ecstatic when the Noem family's peccadilloes came out.
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May as well add that upstanding Republican James Comey to the list, too.

Pillars of integrity, those guys.
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Queso1 said:

It feels like all the cool kids were put into positions irrespective of their morality, knowledge or experience. This has resulted in a clown show equal to the crew that was previously installed based on race, gender and sexuality.

Point being is that merit doesn't matter anymore. I'm beginning to think that the only sane solution is to just not care anymore.


Can someone give examples of what's going on in the FBI to be a clown show. Has Patel lied under oath 200 times like comey? There hasn't been any political weaponry being done.
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Lying about the Epstein files.
Trying to obstruct efforts of the public to track where he and his girlfriend are jetting off to all the time on our dime.
He announced a thwarted terror attack on Halloween, but the investigation was still ongoing and the perps hadn't been arrested yet.
Filing a very stupid defamation lawsuit.
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91AggieLawyer said:

AgDev01 said:

91AggieLawyer said:



If the former, please give SPECIFIC examples of where he "lie(d) and cover(ed)up" and did "unethical actions" for Trump. Also, give examples of the bolded sentence.



How about testifying before congress that there is no credible evidence that anyone else was involved in Epstein's Sex Trafficking operations aside from Epstein and Maxwell?

That has 100% been proved to be a lie.


Can you PLEASE pull up the exact quote/source. I'm not engaging in argument over YOUR assertions. Not to mention accepting your belief of "proved." Proved how?


here is the video. The sheer fact that the FBI had a list of co-conspirators is proof enough to counter his ascertation.

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The vast majority of these sources are probably Democrats, and this is likely a fabricated report about Kash Patel's conduct to fuel the anti-Trump narrative. Unfortunately, I think Patel's $250 million defamation lawsuit against The Atlantic and reporter Sarah Fitzpatrick is likely to be dismissed.

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Isn't this the same "journalist" that wrote the hit piece on Kavanaugh that accused him of drugging women at parties so they can be raped?

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No way! A democrat hit piece is a democrat hit piece?!
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This is the best the media can come up with?

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There was a certain poster that believed every accusation against Kavanaugh and then ran away.
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/22/magazine/trump-kash-patel-fbi-agents.html

The guy is a disaster.
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HTownAg98 said:

Gaeilge said:

Queso1 said:

It feels like all the cool kids were put into positions irrespective of their morality, knowledge or experience. This has resulted in a clown show equal to the crew that was previously installed based on race, gender and sexuality.

Point being is that merit doesn't matter anymore. I'm beginning to think that the only sane solution is to just not care anymore.

Uhhhh...is it just me that is happy with these stats since Kash took over? The guy has done more in a year than Wray did in four.


Funny, that's in the claim in paragraph 9, and parts of it are word for word. It's just there as ego-stroking for their client. Make me wonder if they used AI to write this lawsuit.

They didn't use spell check if they did.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

No way! A democrat hit piece is a democrat hit piece?!


We knew it all along!
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HTownAg98 said:

doubledog said:

Windy City Ag said:

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The Atlantic "published these statements with actual malice," the suit states.
"Actual malice" is the high legal standard that public figures must meet to prevail in a defamation case. It means that the author either knew a claim was false or displayed "reckless disregard of whether it was false or not."
Defamation cases often fall apart because the plaintiffs fail to prove "actual malice."


I will go with the Atlantic on this one as Kash likely does not want a full vetting of his actions. The Trump WSJ suit was dismissed for no "actual malice" basis and that is probably what will happen here as well.

My favorite part of that article, by the way, was Patel forgetting how to login to his computer and immediately assuming he had been canned.

I would argue that "habitual drunk" is with malice.


Calling someone a "habitual drunk" is an opinion. Thus, not defamatory. And that's not what "actual malice" means.

Bob IS a habitual drunk != Bob appears to be a habitual drunk.

The first is a statement of fact. Especially since they are backing it up with supposed information from "sources".

The second is an opinion.
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HTownAg98 said:

1. Because it's irrelevant to the defamation claim. Plus, I've known plenty of people that drink in excess and are still good at their jobs. Look up the term "functioning alcoholic." (I'm not calling Patel an alcoholic.)
2. The wording is almost exactly what you typed into a search engine. That's laziness on their part.

A lot of the story was claiming that he WAS NOT good at his job BECAUSE of the alcohol use. The story claimed it affected his job performance. So, of course it's relevant.
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Post an article you have to be a subscriber and not even try to have a discussion. Nice troll. So thankful not an Aggie.
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91_Aggie said:

Blaming Deep-state Democrats or RINOs is a WOW moment.

Do any of you hard-core Trumpers actually trust and believe in Kash Patel?. That he is actually doing a good job other than covering up for anything Trump is doing?

Just look at the guy and what he said and did for a living before being picked to be FBI director.




Do you even know what he did before that?

I mean besides being on staff at the DOJ, the NSC, principal deputy director of national intelligence, Chief of Staff to acting SecDef, etc?

We're all sure your TexAgs resume leaves that in the dust...
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91AggieLawyer said:

AgDev01 said:

91AggieLawyer said:



If the former, please give SPECIFIC examples of where he "lie(d) and cover(ed)up" and did "unethical actions" for Trump. Also, give examples of the bolded sentence.



How about testifying before congress that there is no credible evidence that anyone else was involved in Epstein's Sex Trafficking operations aside from Epstein and Maxwell?

That has 100% been proved to be a lie.


Can you PLEASE pull up the exact quote/source. I'm not engaging in argument over YOUR assertions. Not to mention accepting your belief of "proved." Proved how?

I, too, would like to see this proof.

My guess is the answer will be that they're hiding the proof by not releasing it, but it's still 100% proven...
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Hey you are probably talking to double masker with an Ukraine flag on his Facebook profile. Does that count?
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Serious Lee said:

instead of just not abusing his power by treating the FBI (taxpayer funded) jet as an uber for he and his gold-digging sex toy, hes tried virtually every maneuver possible to try to get the flight data from the jet to be confidential.

but people keep finding ways to get it out there to the public though, and he keeps doing exactly what he criticized wray for doing. im sure he was ecstatic when the Noem family's peccadilloes came out.

Could you give a link for this?

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HTownAg98 said:

Lying about the Epstein files.
Trying to obstruct efforts of the public to track where he and his girlfriend are jetting off to all the time on our dime.

He announced a thwarted terror attack on Halloween, but the investigation was still ongoing and the perps hadn't been arrested yet.
Filing a very stupid defamation lawsuit.

Could you give links to these?
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DeschutesAg said:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/22/magazine/trump-kash-patel-fbi-agents.html

The guy is a disaster.

I like that the first picture they show is a candidate for a house office as a Democrat. Thank god there could be no bias there.

ETA: Just looked further...

Second guy is suing because he got fired by FBI

Third guy had Grassley send a letter to the DOJ because:

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SA Giardina was an initial recipient of the Steele Dossier and falsely said that the dossier was corroborated as true.

SA Giardina stated openly his animosity toward President Trump and made known his personal motivation to investigate Trump.

SA Giardina electronically wiped the laptop he was assigned while working for Special Counsel Mueller outside of established protocol for record preservation raising the possibility that he destroyed government records. The destruction of the laptop was reported to the DOJ Office of Inspector General (OIG).

SA Giardina instructed agents to use false Emolument Clause predication on President Trump to "dig around."

SA Giardina was a case agent assigned to the Crimson River case, later changed to Red Maasari. This case was leaked, by whom it is not known, to the Washington Post in August 2024 roughly 90 days before the presidential election in an attempt to falsely discredit President Trump.

And I did like their admission that a number of their "sources" had violated FBI policies
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We interviewed 45 employees who work at the F.B.I. or who left during Trump's second term, as well as many other current and former government officials.

The F.B.I. is a rule-bound and tight-lipped institution. Bureau policies prohibit active employees from speaking to the news media without authorization. Even for former employees, speaking out is a sign of serious alarm. Some of our sources shared their stories anonymously because they feared retribution from the administration. (To protect their identities, we are not indicating whether the people we quote anonymously are still employed by the F.B.I.)



Note that the parenthetical directly contradicts the italicized part of the earlier sentence...

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backintexas2013 said:

Hey you are probably talking to double masker with an Ukraine flag on his Facebook profile. Does that count?

Fair enough.
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Ag with kids said:

91AggieLawyer said:

AgDev01 said:

91AggieLawyer said:



If the former, please give SPECIFIC examples of where he "lie(d) and cover(ed)up" and did "unethical actions" for Trump. Also, give examples of the bolded sentence.



How about testifying before congress that there is no credible evidence that anyone else was involved in Epstein's Sex Trafficking operations aside from Epstein and Maxwell?

That has 100% been proved to be a lie.


Can you PLEASE pull up the exact quote/source. I'm not engaging in argument over YOUR assertions. Not to mention accepting your belief of "proved." Proved how?

I, too, would like to see this proof.

My guess is the answer will be that they're hiding the proof by not releasing it, but it's still 100% proven...



Scroll up. the video of his testimony is posted.

They did try to hide who they were by illegally redacting the document that was released but a few have since been named.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-names-3-people-fbi-once-called-jeffrey-epstein-co-conspirators-rcna258335

Let's also not forget that the Frist Lady just said in her remarks there were others involved in their activities - "Now is the time for Congress to act. Epstein was not alone."
 
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