DOJ finally coming through on weed

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Potheads.

Can't go anywhere in a major city these days without being absolutely overwhelmed by that disgusting smell.
Absolute trash culture.


I walk around downtown Houston every day and I rarely smell it. I'm sure places like LA and NY are bad though

I'm on the SW side of Houston and it's BAD. It's hard to go anywhere without smelling it. It's especially bad when grocery shopping at HEB in Meyerland or Bellaire. Nearly every single person you encounter of a certain skin color wreaks of it, plus a few others of different skin tones.

The smell of it triggers bad memories. I grew up in a household where both of my parents were potheads. They were loving people and probably some of the smartest and brightest people I've ever known but were absolute failures at most everything they did and both died in their early 60's. They couldn't keep jobs for very long, were incredibly lazy and unmotivated so we grew up poor and relied on welfare. All of my grandparents, aunts, and uncles, as well as my brothers and I have led relatively successful lives. Really, the only difference between my parents and the rest of the family was their weed addiction, so it's hard to say it wasn't the cause of their problems.
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All those giant redneck trucks that roll coal are few and far between. I can go weeks or months and not be in a cloud of diesel exhaust from a tuned/deleted truck. I can't hardly go to a gas station or park in New Mexico or Colorado without having to smell multiple people smoking that crap. Pot smokers are orders of magnitude of greater numbers than rednecks rolling coal.
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Empowering addicts

you don't drink alcohol, either?
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Mine and most deleted trucks run in stealth mode. The black smoke is a setting in the program that has engine running rich to create the excessive smoke. You will see a little from mine if I'm hard on it to merge or something. It's not the norm
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TexAg2001 said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Hank the Grifter said:

Potheads.

Can't go anywhere in a major city these days without being absolutely overwhelmed by that disgusting smell.
Absolute trash culture.


I walk around downtown Houston every day and I rarely smell it. I'm sure places like LA and NY are bad though

I'm on the SW side of Houston and it's BAD. It's hard to go anywhere without smelling it. It's especially bad when grocery shopping at HEB in Meyerland or Bellaire. Nearly every single person you encounter of a certain skin color wreaks of it, plus a few others of different skin tones.

The smell of it triggers bad memories. I grew up in a household where both of my parents were potheads. They were loving people and probably some of the smartest and brightest people I've ever known but were absolute failures at most everything they did and both died in their early 60's. They couldn't keep jobs for very long, were incredibly lazy and unmotivated so we grew up poor and relied on welfare. All of my grandparents, aunts, and uncles, as well as my brothers and I have led relatively successful lives. Really, the only difference between my parents and the rest of the family was their weed addiction, so it's hard to say it wasn't the cause of their problems.


Meyerland and Bellaire? That aint weed you are smelling my friend . That's a scorching case of Asians with a little Jew sprinkled in. Move outta the sticks fella.

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WaltonAg18 said:

Empowering addicts

People have the right to do stupid things that aren't healthy. I enjoyed a nice glass of bourbon last night myself. Either we are a free society or not. What we certainly should do though is make sure information is available to people to make good decisions. I mean otherwise you might end up with requiring people to get experimental vaccines to go to work or something.
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Ag97 said:

All those giant redneck trucks that roll coal are few and far between. I can go weeks or months and not be in a cloud of diesel exhaust from a tuned/deleted truck. I can't hardly go to a gas station or park in New Mexico or Colorado without having to smell multiple people smoking that crap. Pot smokers are orders of magnitude of greater numbers than rednecks rolling coal.

That's because you live in those areas. I live in Houston. I never smell weed anywhere, but I get enough truck exhaust to give me lung cancer.
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schmellba99 said:

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Empowering addicts

Probably said as you were drinking a beer, smoking a cigarette, eating a Little Debbie snack and sitting at your computer desk or on your phone on the couch.

You know, all things that are perfectly awesome and super duper healthy and don't cause any issues at all!


I'm fine with weed being treated like everything you just listed, I just wish people were honest about the negative issues with weed too just like everyone is with all those other things.

I have two brothers that smoke every single day and tell me with a straight face that it's not addictive

99% of people know that it isn't some super health serum that cures everything. Smoking anything is bad for you, doesn't matter what it is - that's common sense.

I don't think weed itself is addictive for most people that use it, at least not in the same sense that nicotine or alcohol is through the chemical changes they cause in your body. I think the feeling that weed gives you is addictive though. Euphoric feelings are always addictive. And I'm sure there is some subset of the population that has the genetic makeup that it does become addictive, nothing is universal across the board after all.

Back in the day at A&M, we learned that weed was not physically addictive but also back in the day weed wasn't nearly as potent as it is now and didn't have all of the other **** that people add to it now, as well.

Weed culture is a trash culture. I would outlaw the hell out of it in public if I was dictator. Screw everyone that disagrees with me. Pound sand you losers.

Regardless, I fully support investigating THC for its health benefits. There is enough evidence there to justify it could help people on the medicinal front.
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All these complaints about smells… There are many laws we could pass about not being able to smoke marijuana in public, or possibly not allowing joints/blunts of flower to be smoked at all and legal consumption has to be through less smelly methods. People will overwhelmingly use those methods if it's the difference between legal consumption and illegal consumption.

But we can't have any of that if it's not legal to begin with, and in a world where the choices are simply "Smoke it however you want/wherever you want or don't use it at all", marijuana users have shown they prefer the former.
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Would the re-classification of weed to schedule 3 keep the VA from testing for it? I don't think active duty would (or should) stop screening for it, but I know it's an issue for veterans who use it for PTSD and can't get some VA medications if they pop positive for it.
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I live in Houston. I never smell weed anywhere

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t_J_e_C_x said:

WaltonAg18 said:

Empowering addicts


This where we need a down vote button.

Good bull for DOJ

So,

No on empowering attics?


( ...voice punctuated with a clap of distant thunder... )
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Lathspell said:

Rules on where you should be able to or not be able to smoke should be handled by municipalities. But i'd much rather smell a little weed in the air than all the exhaust from your giant redneck trucks.

But why so many people, especially conservatives, are so adamant about telling others what they can or can't do in their own homes, is just mind-boggling. You don't want to smoke? Fine, then don't. You think all smokers are losers and offer nothing to society? Fine, no one cares about your delusions.

Every anecdote you nanny-state lovers keep throwing out can be contradicted with anecdotes from the other side. It's stupid and reeks of you simply feeding into your delusions and brainwashing.

Are we all better off if we NEVER consume THC? Sure. The same can be said for nicotine, caffeine, alcohol, prescription drugs, and any myriad of the **** Americans eat or activities we participate in, every day. The fact is the government tells us we can't simply grow a natural plant, pick the flower, grind it up, and smoke it, while everyone else is free to screw their lives up with all this "legal" bull***** That's insane.

Anecdotally, I've got a friend who is a major pothead who lives off royalties from work he did in 1983.

But, that 7x Platinum level of success is hard to replicate. Especially when you're too high to show up to rehearsals.

Which is why a friend's band established a rule that to share songwriting credit, you had to at least be in the room.

Now my other personal anecdote comes from my era of living in Los Angeles without air conditioning in the era of the medical marijuana sham.

When your house is 6 feet away from your neighbor's house and she's a Gangsta Rap publicist with a back problem from a car wreck... It becomes my problem when she "has back pain". And my neighbor had back pain many summer afternoons when we had the windows open.

At least my security guard neighbor only smoked on weekends in the recreational weed era. His screenwriter wife's friends liked to smoke up too but, in addition to weed, they also smoked pole (Dice Clay reference).
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second hand cigarette smoke is a far more disgusting smell.
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... is your friend the bass player from Van Halen?
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schmellba99 said:

WaltonAg18 said:

Empowering addicts

Probably said as you were drinking a beer, smoking a cigarette, eating a Little Debbie snack and sitting at your computer desk or on your phone on the couch.

You know, all things that are perfectly awesome and super duper healthy and don't cause any issues at all!

You junkies get really salty when someone disagrees with your brain cell destroying vice.
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Lathspell said:

Ag97 said:

All those giant redneck trucks that roll coal are few and far between. I can go weeks or months and not be in a cloud of diesel exhaust from a tuned/deleted truck. I can't hardly go to a gas station or park in New Mexico or Colorado without having to smell multiple people smoking that crap. Pot smokers are orders of magnitude of greater numbers than rednecks rolling coal.

That's because you live in those areas. I live in Houston. I never smell weed anywhere, but I get enough truck exhaust to give me lung cancer.


I've been in Denver since Sunday and I have smelled weed exactly once, on 4/20 of course.

OTOH I smell it daily in The Woodlands when I am home.
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Only an idiot would smoke it versus just eating it.
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aggie93 said:

WaltonAg18 said:

Empowering addicts

People have the right to do stupid things that aren't healthy.

I would much rather be on the freedom side of any issue than the restrictive side, however when we live in a society that is being saddled with a great millstone of free medicine, I might like a say in some of the unhealthy things people are doing that we are collectively funding.

Our freedom to make dumb choices was never built on the idea that the big daddy government will bail you out when you get sick from it all.
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Weed should not be legal at this time.

But having it schedule 1 instead of schedule 3 was moronic and possibly racially motivated at the time.

Good change despite the fact it has no impact on me personally.
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SgtBarbarossa said:

... is your friend the bass player from Van Halen?

Nope. I've never met Michael Anthony.

But, I guarantee you've Banged your Head to my friend's backing vocals and guitar solos.

One of the nicest guys you'll ever meet and just an all around cool guy in general - Carlos Cavazo.

I'll also add - relevant to this topic, he did not smoke up in my car or my house. In fact, he asked permission and respected my denial. I damn sure didn't want that stuff smelling up my vehicle.

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10andBOUNCE said:

aggie93 said:

WaltonAg18 said:

Empowering addicts

People have the right to do stupid things that aren't healthy.

I would much rather be on the freedom side of any issue than the restrictive side, however when we live in a society that is being saddled with a great millstone of free medicine, I might like a say in some of the unhealthy things people are doing that we are collectively funding.

Our freedom to make dumb choices was never built on the idea that the big daddy government will bail you out when you get sick from it all.

No doubt we have a lot of flaws in the system. Still the reality is marijuana shouldn't be treated like heroin. I'm certainly opposed to anyone getting free weed from the government as well just as I need to buy my own Blanton's.
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Don't drink and don't smoke anything but things that used to walk or swim, but I do love me some sweet, sweet tunes from the LBC.

Reefers...

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He changed his username to NormanH I think.
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As for the topic, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN one way or the other.
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It is comical because as you walk around the mall in DC its just weed everywhere.
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Ogre09 said:

Stinks so bad. Made downtown Nashville visit pretty miserable.


Ditto, take a walk down the strip in vegas and thats all you smell. It's annoying.
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All transportation. Already got drunks and idiots that text while driving killing us. Don't need dudes high on MJ killing us too. But it won't matter it's happening now anyway.
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Time to till the farm!
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Just drink beer like God intended
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Heineken-Ashi said:

schmellba99 said:

WaltonAg18 said:

Empowering addicts

Probably said as you were drinking a beer, smoking a cigarette, eating a Little Debbie snack and sitting at your computer desk or on your phone on the couch.

You know, all things that are perfectly awesome and super duper healthy and don't cause any issues at all!

You junkies get really salty when someone disagrees with your brain cell destroying vice.

Actually, alcohol destroys brain cells, but THC does not.
But THC is addictive, but in a different way from opiates. THC occurs naturally (as does opium), and we have THC receptors in our brains, that are stimulated by THC (by those who use it). The unique thing about THC is that our brains make more THC receptors in response to repeated use, which is why to "saturate" all their THC receptors the "potheads" feel the need to constantly use THC. I'm not advocating it's use beyond valid medical indications, but it doesn't destroy brain tissue (like alcohol does).
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Good DOJ
also, weed.
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Habitual use of THC absolutely has an effect on the brain. What sources do you have that it isn't affected?

This was published just last year
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2829657
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We have the proof

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What other things that affect the brain should we criminalize?

Too much TV? Sniffing glue? Too much social media like TexAgs?

I can assure as a pot smoker 30 years, its effects are barely noticeable. Most of that being a mellowing that is welcomed by all.

GIG'em Ganja!
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