Do you not think it is a. big deal? I will happily discuss solutions with you, but short of getting rid of access to guns by dip****s, I have nothing.

No I don't think it's a big deal and the only solution people come up with is more gun laws.

Spokeswomen.

I had family at the event this weekend.

This was basically south side Chicago type street party violence. For some reason huge hordes of folks that never went to college and would otherwise never step foot in Bloomington and have no interest in the actual race itself decided to make this into a social event worth travelling to from the rough neighborhoods of every city within 300 miles.

Two woman fitting this description brawl and their boys pull their guns.

Frustrating.

The ending of the race this year was epic though. Check out the crash.

Huge Crash

I would embed it but the website is rejecting it for some reason.

Ghetto culture likes to show up at parties. Since most don't work easy to travel.

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Ghetto culture likes to show up at parties. Since most don't work easy to travel.

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Sholandala got mad because dat hoe Shaneekula is being baby mama wid my baby daddy.

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So disappointing. Was expecting the Cutters...

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Best sports movie of all time.
Fight me.

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Not even the best movie about bikes, have you even seen Rad?

No, it's leftists.

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Do you not think it is a. big deal? I will happily discuss solutions with you, but short of getting rid of access to guns by dip****s, I have nothing.

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You get rid of access to guns by the Gangs you reference by putting the Felon Gang members in federal prison for life for repeat felony convictions. But your side wants to repeatedly release them.
And by deporting the illegal Cholos to El Salvador prisons. The solution is easy.

How on earth have we gotten this far into this thread without a BikerFox reference?

Have you no respect for TexAgs history?

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Do you not think it is a. big deal? I will happily discuss solutions with you, but short of getting rid of access to guns by dip****s, I have nothing.

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I'm not willing to entertain a "solution" that infringes on my rights. Let's start there. The middle class isn't out there committing these random acts of violence. 97% of gun violence in this country is gang and drug related. That's a fact that includes virtually all "mass shootings" and "school shootings" because both categories include things that rational people would not put into those categories if they know the details. For example school shootings include drug deals gone bad on a school playground in the middle of the night. That's not a school shooting unless you have an agenda that doesn't involve the truth about school shootings.

Having said all of that it would take American gang bangers roughly 6000 years to catch up to 20th century leftists in their body count. Communist revolutions and the Nazis claimed approximately 100 million of their own citizens in the 20th century and do you know what they did first? Disarm their citizens. These are facts. Nobody in a position to "do something" about this cares even a little bit about gun violence. They care about disarming you and me. That's why in the wake of a shooting that's entirely done with handguns we immediately get Democrats calling to ban AR-15. Let that sink in before we start talking about solutions to this problem.

Gun violence is a socioeconomic phenomenon driven nearly entirely by a culture that promotes death and destruction via guns and drugs. Let's address that before we start creating a world where only the government has guns. After all, they aren't trying to get rid of guns. They're trying to get rid of your guns. Not theirs.

****ing unintelligent psychopaths.

Willing to spend the rest of their life in jail because they were momentarily disrespected.

How did people become so impulsive?

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That's because a majority of shootings are committed by Democrats.
The FBI stats make that clear.
The 3 assassination attempts on POTUS are just a bonus.

Disarm democrats, and this country become more like Europe.

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I'd wager that the majority doesn't give a **** about being a democrat or a republican. Show me FBI linked facts that says democrats are the majority shooters. I couldn't find anything there, except Tenny's statement.

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It's common knowledge and common sense. Blacks account for 50% of the violent crime in this country while representing 13% of the population. Blacks vote Democrat at a 90%+ clip.

Almost every lone wolf shooter in the past decade, including the three that tried to kill Trump, have been left wingers according to their own manifestos, social media history, and political donations.

We have a problem in this country and its Democrats with their insane ideology and enablement of inferior cultures.

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That's because a majority of shootings are committed by Democrats.
The FBI stats make that clear.
The 3 assassination attempts on POTUS are just a bonus.

Disarm democrats, and this country become more like Europe.

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I'd wager that the majority doesn't give a **** about being a democrat or a republican. Show me FBI linked facts that says democrats are the majority shooters. I couldn't find anything there, except Tenny's statement.

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You really think the FBI classifies shooters by their political beliefs or voting history? All the evidence a rational person needs to come to the conclusion that most shooters vote or would vote Democrat has already been posted.

I stand by my claim that bicyclists are the worst people on earth

It must be said again....

MY guns are not going to shoot anyone.

They are safely locked away to protect me and my family.

Taking MY guns will do NOTHING to fix the problem, but will leave my family UNPROTECTED. This is an absolute FACT that does not need validation in heuristic data.

Go away with your "solution".

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You get rid of access to guns by the Gangs you reference by putting the Felon Gang members in federal prison for life for repeat felony convictions. But your side wants to repeatedly release them.
And by deporting the illegal Cholos to El Salvador prisons. The solution is easy.

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My side? Unlike you, I am not married to one side or the other and this all or nothing approach to politics is beyond stupid. I don't want anyone released for crimes. This is your problem. You make base assumptions from one issue and apply them across the board. Hell, I'm not even a proponent of additional gun laws, but I can still be sick of people getting shot, regardless of the excuses being made.

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You really think the FBI classifies shooters by their political beliefs or voting history? All the evidence a rational person needs to come to the conclusion that most shooters vote or would vote Democrat has already been posted.

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No, my comments were related to the absurdity of the post I was responding to.

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It's common knowledge and common sense. Blacks account for 50% of the violent crime in this country while representing 13% of the population. Blacks vote Democrat at a 90%+ clip.

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I think it's funny that you associate black voters with the ones that are out there in gangs. The probably aren't lined up to vote

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You get rid of access to guns by the Gangs you reference by putting the Felon Gang members in federal prison for life for repeat felony convictions. But your side wants to repeatedly release them.
And by deporting the illegal Cholos to El Salvador prisons. The solution is easy.

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My side? Unlike you, I am not married to one side or the other and this all or nothing approach to politics is beyond stupid. I don't want anyone released for crimes. This is your problem. You make base assumptions from one issue and apply them across the board. Hell, I'm not even a proponent of additional gun laws, but I can still be sick of people getting shot, regardless of the excuses being made.

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I think we are all sick of it and there aren't really any excuses being made. We have a culture problem within one culture. If that culture ever decides to look inward and fix itself, then most of our shooting crimes disappear.

That is simply fact.

Edit: Also, if we get trans people the help they need and quit enabling their mental issue, then we largely solve our lone wolf shooting problems as well.

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It's common knowledge and common sense. Blacks account for 50% of the violent crime in this country while representing 13% of the population. Blacks vote Democrat at a 90%+ clip.

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I think it's funny that you associate black voters with the ones that are out there in gangs. The probably aren't lined up to vote

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The rest of their population continues to vote for the party that enables their defunct culture that leads to 50% of the violent crime.

We get it. You think all black people are gang bangers or leftist commies.

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I think we are all sick of it and there aren't really any excuses being made. We have a culture problem within one culture. If that culture ever decides to look inward and fix itself, then most of our shooting crimes disappear.

That is simply fact.

Edit: Also, if we get trans people the help they need and quit enabling their mental issue, then we largely solve our lone wolf shooting problems as well.

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I do not disagree with any of that.

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We get it. You think all black people are gang bangers or leftist commies.

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90+% of them vote Democrat. The gangbangers very disproportionately account for half the crime in this country.

So, yes, the vast majority of them fit your statement.

And?

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The technical and FBI definition of a "mass shooting" would describe Chicago EVERY weekend. Yet you never hear that from the media. Just another example of the media being carnival barkers looking for clicks.

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You do when they want to create a false narrative that we have mass shootings every day here because apparentl you can order a machine gun off the internet no questions asked in their small idiotic minds.

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And most gun violence is inner city blacks, gangs, and drug related.

The problem is not guns; it is the culture which glorifies violence.

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It's obviously both. It's not inner city blacks and gangs that shoot up schools. It wasn't gangs that shot up the outlet mall in Allen. I don't really care who or what you think the cause of this issue is, but it's a huge problem regardless. We. have become so accustomed to this violence, that we just post cartoons about it and blame the democrats.

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No, it really isn't.

But no amount of logic will change your mind either.

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Do you not think it is a. big deal? I will happily discuss solutions with you, but short of getting rid of access to guns by dip****s, I have nothing.

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I don't think the made up term "gun violence" is a big deal to me. Somehow I have managed to make it near 50 years without ever being involved in any type of shooting incident.

Why? Well, mostly because I avoid the most common factors associated with all shootings - I avoid groups of minority (mostly black and lately hispanic) males from the ages of 15-32 like the plauge. I avoid areas that they tend to congregate, such as malls or rap concerts. And whenever I am somewhere and I notice that there seems to be a gathering of these types, I generally decide I've been in that area long enough and leave the area.

You know, playing the statistical data and using it in my favor. Why? Because the overwhelming majority of "gun violence" is a result of this demographic. Now, you are going to cry "racist!" and some other stupid term here, but the facts are the facts.

If "gun violence" was such an issue, then a higher percentage of the over 400 million firearms owned in the US would be used daily to commit crimes. As it stands - that isn't the case. It is nowhere near the case. "Gun violence" is largely concentrated in a small subset of the population and it has been that way for a long, long time.

Blaming the gun is a lazy and low IQ take.

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If your quasi-insult was directed at me, I don't blame the gun at all. But the real low IQ take is not understanding that the availability of guns is a problem. That doesn't mean I don't support your right to own one.

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Blaming the gun is a lazy and low IQ take.

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If your quasi-insult was directed at me, I don't blame the gun at all. But the real low IQ take is not understanding that the availability of guns is a problem. That doesn't mean I don't support your right to own one.

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Do you have any kind of proposal or solution to the "availability of guns" problem? I would love to hear it.