Rubio 2028

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WakeEmUp38
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I'd like to discuss Rubio for president in 2028, especially as it relates to other republican contenders (Vance). I would support Rubio for the following reasons:

  • Most competent cabinet member. Articulates critical points like no one I've seen in the last 30 years.
  • Great foreign policy experience as SoS and NSA, which will be needed more than ever in the next election (China conflict, Russia<>Ukraine, Middle East).
  • More of a traditional conservative (more like Reagan) than Trump or Vance. This is more my cup of tea rather than the Trump/Vance populism.
  • Understands the value of allies, especially in times of conflict (something I don't think Trump quite understands). Less isolationist.
  • Pro free-market relative to Trump/Vance. Less tariffs.
  • Will likely pick up more of the Hispanic vote.
  • On the record saying he wants to ban fall weddings (which is the most important issue of our time)
I'm sure I'm missing others, but the biggest one is that I think he's closer to Reagan on the ideological spectrum than some of the others in the cabinet.
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Rubio is probably my first choice as of today. He's very bright, understands the stakes of keeping our country safe, and can articulate ideas in a way that still keeps to the 'America First' principles - but done in a more diplomatic way than Trump.
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Rubio is brilliant!

Rubio, DeSantis or Vance would all be great choices for President.
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WakeEmUp38 said:

On the record saying he wants to ban fall weddings (which is the most important issue of our time)

lol wut?


I'm ok with Rubio. A little on the boring side, but maybe that's what this country needs right now.
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How many jobs can this man have?!

PaulsBunions
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I don't think Rubio has the charisma needed to win an election.
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javajaws said:

WakeEmUp38 said:

On the record saying he wants to ban fall weddings (which is the most important issue of our time)

lol wut?


I'm ok with Rubio. A little on the boring side, but maybe that's what this country needs right now.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/marco-rubio-jokingly-pushes-trump-executive-order-banning-weddings-during-college-football-season

"This thing about people getting married on Saturdays during college football season is a scourge, Mr. President," Rubio said. "It's dividing families. I don't know if we can have an executive order on this. There are seven other months in the year that people can get married. So, I just wanted to say that."


(clearly a joke...but has a point...)
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PaulsBunions said:

I don't think Rubio has the charisma needed to win an election without massive amounts of voter fraud.

Just wanted to steelman the argument given the very recent datapoint that would have countered it easily.
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Rubio is well spoken, but he's not a street-fighter. That's how trump took him out in 2016. Like it or not, this is the arena now. I think he's a much better candidate than he was back then, but he's got his weaknesses. He has to be able to spar with people on the debate stage aside from policy-wonk moments. He can come across as condescending and petulant at times when backed into a corner. Again, that was 2016. I think he's grown exponentially since then so I'm hopeful
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Rubio has done a great job thus far as SOS and has established himself as a legit candidate for the Republican nomination in 2028. He has always seemed a little too "establishment" for me, but I'm certainly wiling to hear him make his case in a few years. It feels like right now, he and Vance would be the early leaders, with DeSantis still in the picture, as well. A lot can change between here and then, though.

Rubio might be the best candidate for the general election. Seems like the safe choice a lot of "independents" and "undecided voters" (if those categories actually exist) would choose.
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PaulsBunions said:

I don't think Rubio has the charisma needed to win an election.

Unless you find another bull in a china shop like Trump, no Republican candidate is going to be seen as charismatic next to the media fawning over the Dem nominee.

JD Vance probably gets you a bit closer.
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IMHO Vance is the only possible candidate that has what it takes to win the election. Dude beat down Walz so hard in the VP debate that Walz won't even be governor soon. Might be the most lopsided debate since Cheney beat up that philanderer from North Carolina.

When I think of Rubio as a candidate all I can think of is Trump calling him "Little Marco" lol
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He's an incredible SecState. Dont know if it would translate to POTUS but I would absolutely vote for him.

End of the day he's going to be 10x better than whoever the DNC picks as their nominee since their constituents don't get that choice anymore.
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I think Rubio would be great as president and I'm likely voting for him in the primary but I worry about his ability to excite the base without lots of support early from Trump and other leaders in the party. I don't know if he can stand out if there is a crowded primary
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I think Rubio has matured and relaxed a lot since his failed presidential bid. Look at the joke he cracked after speaking Spanish at his cabinet appointment announcement. Old Rubio was very worried about saying the wrong thing. Now he is more relaxed which dramatically increases his charisma.
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I don't know, Trump Biden 2024 still takes the cake as the most lopsided debate beat down in history….
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BlueSmoke said:

Rubio is well spoken, but he's not a street-fighter. That's how trump took him out in 2016. Like it or not, this is the arena now. I think he's a much better candidate than he was back then, but he's got his weaknesses. He has to be able to spar with people on the debate stage aside from policy-wonk moments. He can come across as condescending and petulant at times when backed into a corner. Again, that was 2016. I think he's grown exponentially since then so I'm hopeful



I think Bessent would be a great running mate with Rubio. Dude is a genius and can roll with any punch thrown his way. I'm not too keen on Vance yet. Rubio has been at the top of my list for a while.
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I agree. Love Bessent. I think the two of them could refocus the tariff/trade strategy.
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Given the way the mainstream media operates, when it's time to take out Rubio from the 2028 Presidential Race, what's the worst thing they could dig up on him?

Foam Parties?
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COUNT ME IN!!
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All in for Rubio right now. This is probably minor but it gets you away from the Trump/Vance ticket that some moderates may downplay and also should help some with the Hispanic vote. The guy has been the "role up your sleeves Asst Principal dealing with all the day to day BS" only on steroids.
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I like Rubio. I like Vance too but he seems to talk more than does. He needs to take up a few projects and get it through completion.

I will vote for whomever can remove/kill H1B visas and bring back sanity by sending out illegals and visa scammers.

That is my No 1 issue. I will even vote for a Dem if he/she can get this done.
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BlueSmoke said:

Rubio is well spoken, but he's not a street-fighter. That's how trump took him out in 2016. Like it or not, this is the arena now. I think he's a much better candidate than he was back then, but he's got his weaknesses. He has to be able to spar with people on the debate stage aside from policy-wonk moments. He can come across as condescending and petulant at times when backed into a corner. Again, that was 2016. I think he's grown exponentially since then so I'm hopeful


He's very different these days, than 2016.

He's faced a lot of flak, being SoS for Trump, and he's handled all the questions/attacks perfectly. I've actually been more impressed with his ability to counter arguments, than anything else he's done. I wouldnt have said that about him in 2016.
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I like that Rubio isn't an emotional enemy maker. He was unanimously approved for his postion which includes Democrats. I think he could win.

I don't understand why you would be against tariffs in principal. We do need to open up our ability to export goods to other countries by demanding fair trading tactics.
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infinity ag said:

I like Rubio. I like Vance too but he seems to talk more than does. He needs to take up a few projects and get it through completion.

Has there ever been a VP who has really done anything meaningful? Well, other than Gore who invented the internet.

I think its more a curse of the role than the person filling it.
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Ridgeback85 said:

I like that Rubio isn't an emotional enemy maker. He was unanimously approved for his postion which includes Democrats. I think he could win.

I don't understand why you would be against tariffs in principal. We do need to open up our ability to export goods to other countries by demanding fair trading tactics.



People don't know why they are against tariffs. It is just that they heard some conservative radio show host rant about tariffs and how it is against free markets so everyone parrots the same line without applying any intelligence to it. Fear of standing out in a group.

How can they justify country A having 100% tariff on us for US goods sold there (like autos) but us not countering back with the same tariffs? They have no answer other than the "free markets" song they sing.

Ultimately they make money from the looting of America. It is that simple. America loses but they win.
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The left and their media and their celebrities met their match with Trump as he trolls them all the time on social. That's why they want to kill him.

I'm not sure Vance and Rubio can fight that dirty and then will be constantly on defense……
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Magneto said:

The left and their media and their celebrities met their match with Trump as he trolls them all the time on social. That's why they want to kill him.

I'm not sure Vance and Rubio can fight that dirty and then will be constantly on defense……

I think Rubio is generally likeable and is Latino. I am not sure being vile toward him would be well received.
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If Rubio is the nominee, it's because things have gone so badly during Trump 47 that Vance can't win. Which means Rubio can't win.

A Vance/Rubio primary shatters the ticket. If things are good enough in 27/28 that Vance runs, just announce a Vance/Rubio P/VP ticket and roll with it.

Still have a Primary though. We need our folks to be able to beat down the friendlies if they want to beat down the enemies.
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Ridgeback85 said:

Magneto said:

The left and their media and their celebrities met their match with Trump as he trolls them all the time on social. That's why they want to kill him.

I'm not sure Vance and Rubio can fight that dirty and then will be constantly on defense……

I think Rubio is generally likeable and is Latino. I am not sure being vile toward him would be well received.

If he makes the top of the ticket in 2028, the hatred and vitriol from the lunatic liberals will definitely push the Latino vote in his direction.
The black vote didn't like being told that they had to vote for Kamala in order to justify their heritage and culture, and Hispanics wont' like being told to vote D in order to justify their own heritage. I'm not making a silly claim that Rubio would run the table on the minority blocks, but, i think he'd be successful capturing a larger % of Hisp votes than expected.
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javajaws said:

infinity ag said:

I like Rubio. I like Vance too but he seems to talk more than does. He needs to take up a few projects and get it through completion.

Has there ever been a VP who has really done anything meaningful? Well, other than Gore who invented the internet.

I think its more a curse of the role than the person filling it.
Iran Contra?
WakeEmUp38
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I disagree. This implies that the admin views Vance as the obvious nominee, which is not true. Much of the recent reporting shows Rubio really has the ear of the president. More so than JD.
I think it's also quite clear that Trump seems to lean on Marco for a lot of decisions. He always seems to say something like "I need to ask Marco" when posed with a tough question in a press conference.
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I like Rubio. I like Vance too but he seems to talk more than does. He needs to take up a few projects and get it through completion.


I agree with the Vance assessment. He's super smart, but to be a good president, understanding how to push stuff through the bureaucracy + having a high pain tolerance for BS is more important than raw IQ. I think Rubio and DeSantis have demonstrated these traits much more than Vance has.

For Rubio to have a future, he probably needs the Iran game of chicken to finish with us in a better position than when we started. I know there were a lot of people involved with that decision, but since he's "the guy" in this administration on foreign policy, this will be hung around his neck if it goes south.
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He's getting $10 million to win the Big 12...

I hope I did not offend anybody with this post. If I did, please come see me at my address in my profile so we can talk.
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Rubio has gravitas.
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