Fireman said:

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Take the n-word away from liberals, so now they have to be creative in multiple ways to continually insult black people. We need a national divorce, you'll never convince me otherwise.

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Harvard, aTm, Blinn, a community college, it should all be the same. It shouldn't matter if everyone in the class gets an A or everyone gets a D, it should not be grading vs other students performance, it should be based on knowledge of the material learned and applied correctly.

If everyone is getting between 50% - 60% why would it make sense those with 58%-60% receive an A? They should get an F alinf with everyone else.

nortex97 said:

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People like KBJ (magna cum laude Harvard) and Joy Reid are DEI examples of why Harvard imho should not be taken anywhere nearly as seriously as they pretentiously are today, imho. They are sort of the 'Royal Navy' of higher ed just riding on an old reputation they no longer deserve at all.

I don't really care I just think with their endowment they shouldn't receive federal funding to subsidize the pricey education/brain washing there.

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The new policy is not getting into Harvard (DEI), but graduating from Harvard. The first is just posturing and the 2nd is inevitable.

It used to be and should be that

A - Excellent
B - Above Average
C - Average - majority of people reside here
D - Below Average
F - Failed to meet expectations

If everyone gets an A or B, then which students excelled. If you say they all did them no one did.

I argued with a grad professor, that only gave A's and B's, stating that everyone in grad school was above average and deserved at least a B. I disagreed saying that the mere fact a student made it into grad school made them above the average college student, but how to tell the exceptional grad students from the poor grad students.

That's just socialist grading, dumbing down the standards to reward all. Why work hard to achieve more if everyone will earn the same?

MattAg84 said:

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How about we try this radical idea where if you get 90% or more of the questions correct you get an A, 80-90% a B, 70%-80% a C… crazy right?!?!

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I starred this, but you greatly underestimate professors. If you are teaching at an Ivy League school, buy into the liberal agenda, and want to get good evals and be friends with your students...

Would you make a test that it is hard to make a 90 or a test that is easy to score a 90?

There's an Asian version of the grading scale:

A = Average
B = Below average
C = Can't have dinner
D = Don't come home
F = Find a new family

This is SO stupid on many fronts….but how about the fact that even getting into one of these schools as a white person (especially male) is increasingly rare. So how is it racist when only 30% of your students are white? How is it racist? Or are other groups complaining about Asians again?

MattAg84 said:

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How about we try this radical idea where if you get 90% or more of the questions correct you get an A, 80-90% a B, 70%-80% a C… crazy right?!?!

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By God, that's just crazy enough to work.

Jarrin Jay said:

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Harvard, aTm, Blinn, a community college, it should all be the same. It shouldn't matter if everyone in the class gets an A or everyone gets a D, it should not be grading vs other students performance, it should be based on knowledge of the material learned and applied correctly.

If everyone is getting between 50% - 60% why would it make sense those with 58%-60% receive an A? They should get an F alinf with everyone else.

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In Clint Magill's graduate genetics class, he had to apply an insane curve so everyone didn't fail. We're talking genetics PhD students that have never made a B in their lives making up most of the class, and the test averages would be in the 30s.

It wasn't about the competency of the students, it was the professor.

I'm not defending grade inflation, but if everyone is failing then obviously teaching is part of the problem.

I never understood this. If everyone has such poor grades then 1) the prof isn't doing their job as a teacher 2) the students don't actually grasp the material and therefore are not showing competency. Grades are a measure of competency. If all the medical doctor students are stupid, then none will pass. If they are graded on a curve, a certain percentage would pass and be allowed to be doctors even though they didnt demonstrate competency.

I am a veterinarian and so is my father in law. We have this discussion about vet school all the time. There should be certain levels of competency that you should have to have in order to graduate. There are times that 10% of the material is more important than the other 90%. You could be correct on the 90% and miss the 10%. You would pass and then be a terrible professional and actually harm patients because you didn't understand the critical 10%, as an example

Grading should be about competency not quotas. Curving to the class has a fundamental flaw in the statistical analysis because it is only comparing the class to itself which can create a situation where no one is competent.

agdx88 said:

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It used to be and should be that

A - Excellent
B - Above Average
C - Average - majority of people reside here
D - Below Average
F - Failed to meet expectations

If everyone gets an A or B, then which students excelled. If you say they all did them no one did.

I argued with a grad professor, that only gave A's and B's, stating that everyone in grad school was above average and deserved at least a B. I disagreed saying that the mere fact a student made it into grad school made them above the average college student, but how to tell the exceptional grad students from the poor grad students.

That's just socialist grading, dumbing down the standards to reward all. Why work hard to achieve more if everyone will earn the same?

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You are assuming they are competing against each other.
What if instead they are trying to clear a "bar" set by the Professor?

The racism stuff apart, I can see why Harvard students would be pissed. Most would be competing for jobs with other Ivy Leaguers, and if (say) Princeton isn't as strict, it puts a Harvard student at a disadvantage.

MattAg84 said:

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How about we try this radical idea where if you get 90% or more of the questions correct you get an A, 80-90% a B, 70%-80% a C… crazy right?!?!

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Wow.....

Mods, are you REALLY allowing this overt Nazi-esque racism to stand!?!?!?!



;-)

Yes, radical idea.

People would quickly learn that Princeton is not as good as Harvard in the candidates graduating. Myth already exists that all Ivy League schools are better than others, but they are not. Why be stereotypically and group them all together?

As people have already noted in this thread, Harvard's status is withering away in the eyes of many.

Liberals completely own our education system from top to bottom and this is what they've done to it. There are no standards and our students are idiots.

Not everyone can be above average.