dds08 said:

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If the federal government wants Florida's help, why not make them work for it?

1. Pass the Save America Act.
2. Pass a balance the budget bill.
3. Insert great ideas here

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Your problem is you infer that the federal government DOES want Florida's help. The entrenched bureaucrats don't want Florida's help. Half the lower courts and appeals courts don't want Florida's help. The demoncrats in Congress don't want Florida's help. And most importantly, the RINOs in the Senate don't want Florida's help. The only ones who DO want Florida's help are the Republicans who actually havd an ounce of integrity when they were making campaign promises.

dds08 said:

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If the federal government wants Florida's help, why not make them work for it?

1. Pass the Save America Act.
2. Pass a balance the budget bill.
3. Insert great ideas here

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Thune does not have the votes to pass the save act. Even to pass with 51 and eliminating the filibuster we do not have the votes for that.

You have 4 senators that do not care about redistricting or staying in power to get them to change their minds

Tillis, Murkowski, Mitch and Collins are all a no, which puts you at 49 yes votes. Those 4 do not care about maintaining the house or the save act. Their hatred for Trump outweighs everything

Maybe you can convince Fetterman to be that 50th vote but I doubt it. He would get destroyed by his own party if he did. Honestly he should switch to R and he would be embraced big time but he would need to vote like an R of course. He would be another Collins but that is better than nothing

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Maybe you can convince Fetterman to be that 50th vote but I doubt it. He would get destroyed by his own party if he did. Honestly he should switch to R and he would be embraced big time but he would need to vote like an R of course. He would be another Collins but that is better than nothing

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I think I've heard him say he is for the Save Act.

Here's another look...

https://www.fetterman.senate.gov/fetterman-statement-on-voting-against-debate-on-the-save-america-act/

captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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I 100% agree generally, but here is why that won't get the Save America Act passed.

Collins is up for election this year. If she votes for it, she will lose in ME.

Murkosowski is not up until 2028, but the GOP is already doing all it can to get rid of her.

Tillis is not seeking reelection.

McConnell is not seeking reelection.

There really isn't any hardball you can play with these four.

2026NCAggies said:

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dds08 said:

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If the federal government wants Florida's help, why not make them work for it?

1. Pass the Save America Act.
2. Pass a balance the budget bill.
3. Insert great ideas here

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Thune does not have the votes to pass the save act. Even to pass with 51 and eliminating the filibuster we do not have the votes for that.

You have 4 senators that do not care about redistricting or staying in power to get them to change their minds

Tillis, Murkowski, Mitch and Collins are all a no, which puts you at 49 yes votes. Those 4 do not care about maintaining the house or the save act. Their hatred for Trump outweighs everything

Maybe you can convince Fetterman to be that 50th vote but I doubt it. He would get destroyed by his own party if he did. Honestly he should switch to R and he would be embraced big time but he would need to vote like an R of course. He would be another Collins but that is better than nothing

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BS. Thune could get it done if he wasn't on Team Swamp.

F that puto.

Fetterman is AGAINST the Save America Act; like the good little Lib he is.



He talks a lot of noise, but when push comes to shove, his vote generally line up way on the Left.

captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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Tillis is not running for reelection, Mitch is on his last term and is brain dead. Collins is from a blue state, you do not run off a senator that is in a blue state, you basically have no shot at getting another R in that state. Trump tried VERY HARD to get Murkowski out and she still cruised to a victory, Alaska loves her for some odd reason

I am kinda of surprised Thune and the other RINO Rs cannot convince old Mitch to vote yes. I doubt they are even trying though. Thune is worthless even more so than what Mitch was. Mitch at least hammered through as many judges as he could, Thune doesn't even try to, worthless pig and South Dakota needs to boot him in their next primary, like we are about to do with Cornyn

Im Gipper said:

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captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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I 100% agree generally, but here is why that won't get the Save America Act passed.

Collins is up for election this year. If she votes for it, she will lose in ME.

Murkosowski is not up until 2028, but the GOP is already doing all it can to get rid of her.

Tillis is not seeking reelection.

McConnell is not seeking reelection.

There really isn't any hardball you can play with these four.

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You bring in McConnell and show him all the ties him and his wife have to China, the wire transfers, etc. And tell him they are going down for FARA and a litany of other crimes unless he votes yes.

Do the same thing with Tillis and his ties with Soros and the big banks.

For Murkowski, you show all the graft that she's been routing to her family back in Alaska, and talk about RICO charges.

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BS. Thune could get it done if he wasn't on Team Swamp.

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Explain how he could "get it done" when the 4 votes he needs literally have nothing they need from Thune.

2026NCAggies said:

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captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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Tillis is not running for reelection, Mitch is on his last term and is brain dead. Collins is from a blue state, you do not run off a senator that is in a blue state, you basically have no shot at getting another R in that state. Trump tried VERY HARD to get Murkowski out and she still cruised to a victory, Alaska loves her for some odd reason

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Y'all say this and then in the next breath say we should vote for Cornyn in a deep red state because Talarico, radical leftist, might otherwise win in a red state.

captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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Put it to a vote and put on record those that are opposed to a minimum of 70% of the country.

The left has already tilted their state's districts so far out of balance, there is nowhere to go. So naturally they hate red states doing the same.

Big (R) states have a long way to go. I wouldn't be surprised if (R)'s could gain 30 seats by setting up their states like the (D)'s have already done.

Urban Ag said:

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dds08 said:

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If the federal government wants Florida's help, why not make them work for it?

1. Pass the Save America Act.
2. Pass a balance the budget bill.
3. Insert great ideas here

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Why not both?

Look at the congressional delegations from every blue state and compare them to how those states actually vote overall. Especially CA, WA, IL, MA, NJ, NY, MN, and basically every northeastern state. And of course VA now.

Red states MUST do exactly the same.

MAXIMUM WARFARE for all! Right?

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With the SC decision today on Race districts. I did a little research. Only Florida (4), Georgia (2), Mississippi (1) and South Carolina (1) are considering redrawing before the election

Tennessee, Louisiana, Bama, Utah are not considering it for 2026

Nebraska was considering eliminating their one blue district but decided not to. Indiana could have added two seats but they voted it down (even though Rs have a huge advantage, they are Fing weak AF), Kentucky has a blue district but has a Dem Governor

By 2028 though I fully expect all those states to redraw and Rs will flip around 15 seats

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captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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Put it to a vote and put on record those that are opposed to a minimum of 70% of the country.

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They did put a "vote" on record. Its not a secret how is against it.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-fail-attach-save-america-act-party-line-funding-package-

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captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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Tillis is not running for reelection, Mitch is on his last term and is brain dead. Collins is from a blue state, you do not run off a senator that is in a blue state, you basically have no shot at getting another R in that state. Trump tried VERY HARD to get Murkowski out and she still cruised to a victory, Alaska loves her for some odd reason

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Y'all say this and then in the next breath say we should vote for Cornyn in a deep red state because Talarico, radical leftist, might otherwise win in a red state.

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Um I never said that? I have been bullish on saying Paxton OR Cornyn will steam roll that weirdo

And Texas is a deep red state, Maine is a deep blue state.................

Im Gipper said:

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BS. Thune could get it done if he wasn't on Team Swamp.

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Explain how he could "get it done" when the 4 votes he needs literally have nothing they need from Thune.

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I just did -

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3605880/replies/72267600

Logos Stick said:

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fyi

🚨 JUST IN: The Florida House has OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED Governor Ron DeSantis’ new Congressional maps, which would add up to 4 new Republican US House seats, 83-28

Democrats literally started SCREAMING when it passed 🤣

It now moves on to the Senate.

Keep pushing! 🔥 pic.twitter.com/GIBiTp5hTJ

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) April 29, 2026

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Blatantly violates the Florida Constitution. Gerrymandering for political purposes is unconstitutional there.

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You bring in McConnell and show him all the ties him and his wife have to China, the wire transfers, etc. And tell him they are going down for FARA and a litany of other crimes unless he votes yes.

Do the same thing with Tillis and his ties with Soros and the big banks.

For Murkowski, you show all the graft that she's been routing to her family back in Alaska, and talk about RICO charges.

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How does Thune do any of this without the Executive Branch? This is some great fan fiction though. Nice work!

Im Gipper said:

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You bring in McConnell and show him all the ties him and his wife have to China, the wire transfers, etc. And tell him they are going down for FARA and a litany of other crimes unless he votes yes.

Do the same thing with Tillis and his ties with Soros and the big banks.

For Murkowski, you show all the graft that she's been routing to her family back in Alaska, and talk about RICO charges.

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How does Thune do any of this without the Executive Branch? This is some great fan fiction though. Nice work!

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Well yeah obviously the exec would be involved.

Are you trying to insinuate that Congress operates in a silo without working with the exec?

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Are you trying to insinuate that Congress operates in a silo without working with the exec?

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On things like blackmailing another congressman? Then yes, they definitely maintain separation there!



Why hasn't the Trump DoJ brought charges against these people?

I hope the Florida Senate will pass Governor Ron DeSantis' new Congressional map to add up to 4 new Republican US House seats to counter California, Virginia and other blue states adding new Democratic US House seats.

Ag87H2O said:

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Any red state that has a majority in both the legislative and executive branches should be working a plan to redistrict asap. Time to fight fire with fire.

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Exactly right, especially since red states far outnumber blue states.

2026NCAggies said:

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captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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Tillis is not running for reelection, Mitch is on his last term and is brain dead. Collins is from a blue state, you do not run off a senator that is in a blue state, you basically have no shot at getting another R in that state. Trump tried VERY HARD to get Murkowski out and she still cruised to a victory, Alaska loves her for some odd reason

I am kinda of surprised Thune and the other RINO Rs cannot convince old Mitch to vote yes. I doubt they are even trying though. Thune is worthless even more so than what Mitch was. Mitch at least hammered through as many judges as he could, Thune doesn't even try to, worthless pig and South Dakota needs to boot him in their next primary, like we are about to do with Cornyn

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What the hell good is she? All she does is take up time trying to pander to her. I say get rid of her and thus stop worrying about trying to conform to what she wants. If it means another d, so be it. That's effectively what she is much of the time anyway.

Use whatever resources to gain another seat elsewhere. There's no way she's worth the trouble but we treat her like if we don't pucker at the sight of her ass, the world will cave in. We need to stop that.

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Logos Stick said:

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fyi

🚨 JUST IN: The Florida House has OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED Governor Ron DeSantis’ new Congressional maps, which would add up to 4 new Republican US House seats, 83-28

Democrats literally started SCREAMING when it passed 🤣

It now moves on to the Senate.

Keep pushing! 🔥 pic.twitter.com/GIBiTp5hTJ

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) April 29, 2026

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Blatantly violates the Florida Constitution. Gerrymandering for political purposes is unconstitutional there.

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The Florida supreme is GOP and will come up with a ruling we need them to.

Science Denier said:

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The left has already tilted their state's districts so far out of balance, there is nowhere to go. So naturally they hate red states doing the same.

Big (R) states have a long way to go. I wouldn't be surprised if (R)'s could gain 30 seats by setting up their states like the (D)'s have already done.

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They've had a built in advantage for decades.

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I hope the Florida Senate will pass Governor Ron DeSantis' new Congressional map to add up to 4 new Republican US House seats to counter California, Virginia and other blue states adding new Democratic US House seats.

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Virginia new map is essentially DOA. Commonwealth Supreme Court will trike it down, purely for procedural reasons. The Dems in the Commonwealth legislature (state assembly) failed to follow the prescribed procedures before putting a constitutional amendment to a popular vote. So the results of hat vote cannot be certified since it was done in an illegal manner under the state constitution and statutes.

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2026NCAggies said:

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captkirk said:

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We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

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Tillis is not running for reelection, Mitch is on his last term and is brain dead. Collins is from a blue state, you do not run off a senator that is in a blue state, you basically have no shot at getting another R in that state. Trump tried VERY HARD to get Murkowski out and she still cruised to a victory, Alaska loves her for some odd reason

I am kinda of surprised Thune and the other RINO Rs cannot convince old Mitch to vote yes. I doubt they are even trying though. Thune is worthless even more so than what Mitch was. Mitch at least hammered through as many judges as he could, Thune doesn't even try to, worthless pig and South Dakota needs to boot him in their next primary, like we are about to do with Cornyn

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What the hell good is she? All she does is take up time trying to pander to her. I say get rid of her and thus stop worrying about trying to conform to what she wants. If it means another d, so be it. That's effectively what she is much of the time anyway.

Use whatever resources to gain another seat elsewhere. There's no way she's worth the trouble but we treat her like if we don't pucker at the sight of her ass, the world will cave in. We need to stop that.

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Um yeah lets trade someone that votes 90% of the time for Rs with a nut bag that votes 0% of the time

Not smart, we need all the help we can get these days. Would she vote to make DC and Puerto Rico states? I think not

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

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I hope the Florida Senate will pass Governor Ron DeSantis' new Congressional map to add up to 4 new Republican US House seats to counter California, Virginia and other blue states adding new Democratic US House seats.

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Virginia new map is essentially DOA. Commonwealth Supreme Court will trike it down, purely for procedural reasons. The Dems in the Commonwealth legislature (state assembly) failed to follow the prescribed procedures before putting a constitutional amendment to a popular vote. So the results of hat vote cannot be certified since it was done in an illegal manner under the state constitution and statutes.

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PLease God happen