Florida Gerrymandering to gain more seats

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Ellis Wyatt said:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

I get it, Ellis. Your hatred for liberals is very emotional for you, so it's impossible for you to admit it's irrational. It's exactly how folks with TDS behave.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

I get it, Ellis. Your hatred for liberals is very emotional for you, so it's impossible for you to admit it's irrational. It's exactly how folks with TDS behave.

It's not hatred for liberals. It's hatred for insanely stupid and harmful policy.
- Men in women's restrooms? WTF?
- Excusing criminals because of the color of their skin? WTF?
- Importing millions of criminals to terrorize our country? WTF?
- Dudes competing in women's sports? WTF?
- 3 attempts to kill Trump? WTF? Well, at least 3 that actually were public.
- Learing Centers? WTF?

Should I go on?
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Science Denier said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

I get it, Ellis. Your hatred for liberals is very emotional for you, so it's impossible for you to admit it's irrational. It's exactly how folks with TDS behave.

It's not hatred for liberals. It's hatred for insanely stupid and harmful policy.
- Men in women's restrooms? WTF?
- Excusing criminals because of the color of their skin? WTF?
- Importing millions of criminals to terrorize our country? WTF?
- Dudes competing in women's sports? WTF?
- 3 attempts to kill Trump? WTF? Well, at least 3 that actually were public.
- Learing Centers? WTF?

Should I go on?

So do you believe that every single person in this country who votes for a democrat supports all of those positions? I have voted for democrats in the past and I don't support all of those positions.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

Science Denier said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

I get it, Ellis. Your hatred for liberals is very emotional for you, so it's impossible for you to admit it's irrational. It's exactly how folks with TDS behave.

It's not hatred for liberals. It's hatred for insanely stupid and harmful policy.
- Men in women's restrooms? WTF?
- Excusing criminals because of the color of their skin? WTF?
- Importing millions of criminals to terrorize our country? WTF?
- Dudes competing in women's sports? WTF?
- 3 attempts to kill Trump? WTF? Well, at least 3 that actually were public.
- Learing Centers? WTF?

Should I go on?

So do you believe that every single person in this country who votes for a democrat supports all of those positions? I have voted for democrats in the past and I don't support all of those positions.

Depends. Which ones DO you support?
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The party is going to nominate a jihadi in Michigan (who thought America deserved 9/11) and a nazi in Maine as their senate candidates. Their mayors in Portland, Seattle, and NYC are emblematic of the party today. Their minority leader in the House just declared the US Supreme court illegitimate. Their 'moderate' governor of Virginia? LOL.

This is just who and what the Democrat party is, imho. We don't have to go to the extreme fringe US Reps like Omar/Keith Ellison etc. to get examples.

They collectively and uniformly believe Republicans in blue states should receive zero representation in congress. Florida is an example, but too moderate imho, of how the sane states must fight back against this ideology of hate known as the Democrat party.
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https://apnews.com/article/voting-rights-redistricting-court-states-race-maps-b90a986d0db5dc49241ab939ff29a179

For 2026 It seems it is too late for most R states to redraw before the election. Bama is out, they are not redrawing. Tennessee is leaning no on redrawing. Georgia seems to be a no.

Louisiana in that article seems to be a no BUT I just read they postponed their primaries to try and redraw.

South Carolina seems to be pursuing it

Mississippi will redraw in my mind

Florida has already started

I think Rs gain at least 6 seats before 2026. If Virginia goes back to their old map and Rs flip 6 seats the outlook will be

206D vs 212R with 17 toss ups. Rs would have to win 6 of those toss ups to get to a 218-217 win

Whoever wins will have a very slim majority regardless

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nortex97 said:

The party is going to nominate a jihadi in Michigan (who thought America deserved 9/11) and a nazi in Maine as their senate candidates. Their mayors in Portland, Seattle, and NYC are emblematic of the party today. Their minority leader in the House just declared the US Supreme court illegitimate. Their 'moderate' governor of Virginia? LOL.

This is just who and what the Democrat party is, imho. We don't have to go to the extreme fringe US Reps like Omar/Keith Ellison etc. to get examples.

They collectively and uniformly believe Republicans in blue states should receive zero representation in congress. Florida is an example, but too moderate imho, of how the sane states must fight back against this ideology of hate known as the Democrat party.

Oh, I get it. My parents were liberal for the first 57 years they were married. However, the party left them a long time ago. They took a picture of the check they made to Ted Cruz's campaign just so I'd believe they changed. When they died, the huge picture of JFK was still in their house.

Today, JFK would be considered a right wing nut. Can you imagine any lib saying "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"?

LOL
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

Science Denier said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

I get it, Ellis. Your hatred for liberals is very emotional for you, so it's impossible for you to admit it's irrational. It's exactly how folks with TDS behave.

It's not hatred for liberals. It's hatred for insanely stupid and harmful policy.
- Men in women's restrooms? WTF?
- Excusing criminals because of the color of their skin? WTF?
- Importing millions of criminals to terrorize our country? WTF?
- Dudes competing in women's sports? WTF?
- 3 attempts to kill Trump? WTF? Well, at least 3 that actually were public.
- Learing Centers? WTF?

Should I go on?

So do you believe that every single person in this country who votes for a democrat supports all of those positions? I have voted for democrats in the past and I don't support all of those positions.


If you vote for people that will enact those positions you by default support them.
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Will SC re-draw in time? I don't think so but getting rid of Clyburn who foisted Kamala on Biden/Democrats would be good for the nation and the Democrat party alike.

His time is up, this cycle or next, imho.
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Teslag said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Science Denier said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

I get it, Ellis. Your hatred for liberals is very emotional for you, so it's impossible for you to admit it's irrational. It's exactly how folks with TDS behave.

It's not hatred for liberals. It's hatred for insanely stupid and harmful policy.
- Men in women's restrooms? WTF?
- Excusing criminals because of the color of their skin? WTF?
- Importing millions of criminals to terrorize our country? WTF?
- Dudes competing in women's sports? WTF?
- 3 attempts to kill Trump? WTF? Well, at least 3 that actually were public.
- Learing Centers? WTF?

Should I go on?

So do you believe that every single person in this country who votes for a democrat supports all of those positions? I have voted for democrats in the past and I don't support all of those positions.


If you vote for people that will enact those positions you by default support them.

Do you believe all democratic politicians support all of those positions?

The point I am trying to make is that painting with a broad brush is pretty dangerous. Political views are nuanced and always have been. Ellis Wyatt takes the position very firmly that anyone to the left of his political views is an evil fascist lunatic that hates America.

I am decidedly left of Ellis, and I am neither evil nor fascist and I love America. There are plenty of things about this country I think could use improvement, but that doesn't equal hate in any sense of the term.
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Do you believe all democratic politicians support all of those positions?


I'd bet 90 to 95% of them do.
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Quote:

Ellis Wyatt takes the position very firmly that anyone to the left of his political views is an evil fascist lunatic that hates America.

You're misinterpreting what he said. He said this:
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The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

He didn't say everyone on the left is a fascist. He's saying all of those who act like fascists (violence against political opposition) are on the left.

Big difference.

You may not agree, but at least get the statement accurate.
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Gigem314 said:

Quote:

Ellis Wyatt takes the position very firmly that anyone to the left of his political views is an evil fascist lunatic that hates America.

You're misinterpreting what he said. He said this:
Quote:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

He didn't say everyone on the left is a fascist. He's saying all of those who act like fascists (violence against political opposition) are on the left.

Big difference.

You may not agree, but at least get the statement accurate.

I've seen multiple posts from Ellis over the years in which he declared all liberals are evil and want to destroy America. To my original point from yesterday, I think that's just silly.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

Gigem314 said:

Quote:

Ellis Wyatt takes the position very firmly that anyone to the left of his political views is an evil fascist lunatic that hates America.

You're misinterpreting what he said. He said this:
Quote:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

He didn't say everyone on the left is a fascist. He's saying all of those who act like fascists (violence against political opposition) are on the left.

Big difference.

You may not agree, but at least get the statement accurate.

I've seen multiple posts from Ellis over the years in which he declared all liberals are evil and want to destroy America. To my original point from yesterday, I think that's just silly.


Can't speak for Ellis, but anyone - who would vote for people who allow the mutilation of children and the killing of unborn babies even UP UNTIL the MOMENT OF BIRTH - is evil.

So yeah, that's every liberal in this country!
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I have voted for democrats in the past and I don't support all of those positions.


Hey folks, I voted for Hitler, but I don't agree with that exterminating Jews thing, thus I'm excused!

No sir, you are guilty!
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Logos Stick said:

Quote:

I have voted for democrats in the past and I don't support all of those positions.


Hey folks, I voted for Hitler, but I don't agree with that exterminating Jews thing, thus I'm excused!

No sir, you are guilty!

Again, silly and overly emotional. But I don't want to derail the thread so I'll let y'all get back to it. Enjoy.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

Gigem314 said:

Quote:

Ellis Wyatt takes the position very firmly that anyone to the left of his political views is an evil fascist lunatic that hates America.

You're misinterpreting what he said. He said this:
Quote:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

He didn't say everyone on the left is a fascist. He's saying all of those who act like fascists (violence against political opposition) are on the left.

Big difference.

You may not agree, but at least get the statement accurate.

I've seen multiple posts from Ellis over the years in which he declared all liberals are evil and want to destroy America. To my original point from yesterday, I think that's just silly.
Sounds like a cop-out.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

Gigem314 said:

Quote:

Ellis Wyatt takes the position very firmly that anyone to the left of his political views is an evil fascist lunatic that hates America.

You're misinterpreting what he said. He said this:
Quote:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

He didn't say everyone on the left is a fascist. He's saying all of those who act like fascists (violence against political opposition) are on the left.

Big difference.

You may not agree, but at least get the statement accurate.

I've seen multiple posts from Ellis over the years in which he declared all liberals are evil and want to destroy America. To my original point from yesterday, I think that's just silly.

Ellis is right
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

Teslag said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Science Denier said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The fascists are on the left, so your statement would be ridiculous. Theres only one side attacking those they disagree with.

I get it, Ellis. Your hatred for liberals is very emotional for you, so it's impossible for you to admit it's irrational. It's exactly how folks with TDS behave.

It's not hatred for liberals. It's hatred for insanely stupid and harmful policy.
- Men in women's restrooms? WTF?
- Excusing criminals because of the color of their skin? WTF?
- Importing millions of criminals to terrorize our country? WTF?
- Dudes competing in women's sports? WTF?
- 3 attempts to kill Trump? WTF? Well, at least 3 that actually were public.
- Learing Centers? WTF?

Should I go on?

So do you believe that every single person in this country who votes for a democrat supports all of those positions? I have voted for democrats in the past and I don't support all of those positions.


If you vote for people that will enact those positions you by default support them.

Do you believe all democratic politicians support all of those positions?

The point I am trying to make is that painting with a broad brush is pretty dangerous. Political views are nuanced and always have been. Ellis Wyatt takes the position very firmly that anyone to the left of his political views is an evil fascist lunatic that hates America.

I am decidedly left of Ellis, and I am neither evil nor fascist and I love America. There are plenty of things about this country I think could use improvement, but that doesn't equal hate in any sense of the term.


Should you vote for a Dem, say Talarico, the first vote he casts will be for the Senate Majority Leader.

See the problem?
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pdc093 said:

1. Pass the Save America Act
2. Pass the Save America Act
3. Pass the Save America Act

It's clear at this point Thune is not going to allow it and no Republican senator has the balls to start the process to remove him. If the swamp was never crystal clear to you before it should be now.
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It's not clear what map Illinois will use this fall. Their 'new' one is out of contention. I am guessing they run out of time before finding a way to eliminate all GOP representation this cycle.

Could be wrong, of course.
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ts5641 said:

pdc093 said:

1. Pass the Save America Act
2. Pass the Save America Act
3. Pass the Save America Act

It's clear at this point Thune is not going to allow it and no Republican senator has the balls to start the process to remove him. If the swamp was never crystal clear to you before it should be now.

Crystal.
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Im Gipper said:

captkirk said:

We need to play hardball with our caucus like the libs. Vote for the Save Act or be drummed out of the Senate. There is dirt on everybody.

I 100% agree generally, but here is why that won't get the Save America Act passed.

Collins is up for election this year. If she votes for it, she will lose in ME.

Murkosowski is not up until 2028, but the GOP is already doing all it can to get rid of her.

Tillis is not seeking reelection.

McConnell is not seeking reelection.

There really isn't any hardball you can play with these four.

We can and should remove them from their positions of leadership, committees, etc.
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Science Denier said:

The left has already tilted their state's districts so far out of balance, there is nowhere to go. So naturally they hate red states doing the same.

Big (R) states have a long way to go. I wouldn't be surprised if (R)'s could gain 30 seats by setting up their states like the (D)'s have already done.

It's been this way for so long they don't even look at it as gerrymandered, just the way it's always been. Fully agree, time for the R's to play the stupid game the same way because Lord knows the Dems are not going to stop playing.
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ts5641 said:

pdc093 said:

1. Pass the Save America Act
2. Pass the Save America Act
3. Pass the Save America Act

It's clear at this point Thune is not going to allow it and no Republican senator has the balls to start the process to remove him. If the swamp was never crystal clear to you before it should be now.

Thune is a horrible leader for the senate. Dude is worthless pig. Hell Cornyn would have been better. Should have been Rick Scott but senate is full of worthless RINO do nothing losers
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We can and should remove them from their positions of leadership, committees, etc.



I'm A-OK with any and all retribution he wants to put in place. But guess what? The Bill still isn't going to pass. The votes just are not there.


You notice how you never see Trump blasting Thune over this? Why do you think that is?

I'm Gipper
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Similar reasoning as to why there's yet to be anyone remotely MAGA as Majority Leader or Speaker...
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Watched a segment on Fox yesterday. They showed the map and what would happen today with red states gaining more residents from blue states "migration"

R states would gain 15 districts and Dem states would lose around 17, I am not counting Arizona (1) and Nevada (1) as red states but they each would gain one seat.

They said if the census does not include illegals than it could get a lot more ugly for them, so I am hoping Rs win Presidency in 2028 for this to happen under a R

If you add the race based district flips and Nebraska & Indiana redraws. That is around 17 total

Possibly 32 flips by end of 2030

That is crazy, Of course blue states will try and gerrymander their states, but that would only be around 15 flips probably less
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Any day Elias gets a smack down is a good day.
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2026NCAggies said:

Watched a segment on Fox yesterday. They showed the map and what would happen today with red states gaining more residents from blue states "migration"

R states would gain 15 districts and Dem states would lose around 17, I am not counting Arizona (1) and Nevada (1) as red states but they each would gain one seat.

They said if the census does not include illegals than it could get a lot more ugly for them, so I am hoping Rs win Presidency in 2028 for this to happen under a R

If you add the race based district flips and Nebraska & Indiana redraws. That is around 17 total

Possibly 32 flips by end of 2030

That is crazy, Of course blue states will try and gerrymander their states, but that would only be around 15 flips probably less

California and New York wouldn't be able to flip seats due to population decreases. They would eliminate red districts which in turn would be recreated in Texas, Florida, et al.
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