aggiehawg said:

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ErnestEndeavor said:

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The problem in Western Europe is population collapse due to low birth rates of native populations. If they don't bring in immigrants their economies crater. Governments are facing tough choices.

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Going to quibble a bit here. Take away their social services and welfare, they would not need mass immigration to keep their economies from failing because their populations would have to work to survive. And extending those same benefits to the immigrants eventually gets those immigrants to see little need to work either.

And with many of the jobs being government jobs in one form or another (like healthcare and other industries that are private in the US) almost impossible to fire anyone. That results in limited upward mobility for advancement.

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Unforgiven94 said:

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Bulldog73 said:

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My kinsmen seem hellbent on making their societal suicide as fast and messy as possible. Farage is UK's only hope, if he is not too late.

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Farage is barely better than the current government in place and basically the same as the worthless torries that used to run the government.

at this point the only real choice to correct the immigration death spiral in Great Britain is Rupert Lowe and the new Restore Britain party which emerged from Farage's Reform party precisely because Reform refuses to actually reform the thing that is killing the country.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Western guilt at their own success due to more effective cultural practices regarding law and economics. Envy is always there, and it breeds spite. I haven't worked out why those who live in relatively good circumstances, having earned it over generations of working towards the betterment of their own conditions and opportunities should feel it is not deserved. The way to share it is to share the culture that accomplished it, not to simply give away the resulting wealth as spoils to those who often refuse to learn how it was generated and adopt those habits.

There is a difference between assimilation into a more productive and prosperous culture and simply locating amongst it to loot its productivity. You can see the indicator: cultural enclaves versus diverse but integrated communities. If you have too much immigration too fast, you get enclaves that don't integrate and assimilate. These are colonists, not immigrants

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jeremy said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Western guilt at their own success due to more effective cultural practices regarding law and economics. Envy is always there, and it breeds spite. I haven't worked out why those who live in relatively good circumstances, having earned it over generations of working towards the betterment of their own conditions and opportunities should feel it is not deserved. The way to share it is to share the culture that accomplished it, not to simply give away the resulting wealth as spoils to those who often refuse to learn how it was generated and adopt those habits.

There is a difference between assimilation into a more productive and prosperous culture and simply locating amongst it to loot its productivity. You can see the indicator: cultural enclaves versus diverse but integrated communities. If you have too much immigration too fast, you get enclaves that don't integrate and assimilate. These are colonists, not immigrants

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Well said!

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boulderaggie said:

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Praying isn't enough.

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Early in 2025, Merz had the chance to seize a measure of power for himself and make facts. He could have forged a deal with Alternative fr Deutschland on the most important questions, established a minority government and set about force-marching the obese German state through necessary reforms. It might've torn his party apart, he might've failed, there would've been a huge fight, but whatever happened nobody would ever forget Chancellor Merz. Instead, the Pigeon Chancellor let a lot of deranged Antifa street protesters and screeching women with parareligious concerns about atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations dissuade him from the only reasonable path. Instead of making history, he chose to spend the first year of his chancellorship making the Social Democrats fat and happy at the expense of the nation. Most don't even hate Merz, because hate like love has to be be earned. He inspires nothing more than mildly scornful indifference.

Everyone who was not a complete idiot knew that Merz's mad coalition with the Social Democrats could never work. Yet the man has been lionised in the international press and even in centre-right domestic papers like the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung as a serious reformer. These people told us Merz would rebuild the Bundeswehr, reduce insane social spending, impose fiscal discipline, solve the migroid problem and restore economic growth. Even if the leftoid half of the German establishment press didn't embrace all these myths, they nevertheless worked hard to make Merz seem presentable, serious and viable. He was worth a shot, he would do his best, and after the crazy Scholz years Germany was back on solid footing.

Now, in the space of about two weeks, the entire myth of Chancellor Merz has collapsed. Major papers that used to defend his government and praise his prospects are suddenly saying it's over. They're writing front-page editorials in the spirit of stuff I was posting here over a year ago. Merz appears at town-hall meetings where he gets asked how he's made life better in Germany and before he can answer the audience just laughs at his stupid ass. His coalition partners say he's doing a terrible job. Back-benchers from his own party are calling his political strategy a failure to his face and leaking it afterwards to the press so everyone knows what they said.

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BBRex said:

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There are a bunch of people in the West who haven't seen hardship and haven't met the hard people it can produce. They assume everyone in the world will be just as docile and easygoing as they are. They don't realize that there are people out there who would slit your throat just because they can.

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Unforgiven94 said:

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Bulldog73 said:

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My kinsmen seem hellbent on making their societal suicide as fast and messy as possible. Farage is UK's only hope, if he is not too late.

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Farage is barely better than the current government in place and basically the same as the worthless torries that used to run the government.

at this point the only real choice to correct the immigration death spiral in Great Britain is Rupert Lowe and the new Restore Britain party which emerged from Farage's Reform party precisely because Reform refuses to actually reform the thing that is killing the country.

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c-jags said:

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Unforgiven94 said:

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Bulldog73 said:

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My kinsmen seem hellbent on making their societal suicide as fast and messy as possible. Farage is UK's only hope, if he is not too late.

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Farage is barely better than the current government in place and basically the same as the worthless torries that used to run the government.

at this point the only real choice to correct the immigration death spiral in Great Britain is Rupert Lowe and the new Restore Britain party which emerged from Farage's Reform party precisely because Reform refuses to actually reform the thing that is killing the country.

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Was coming in here to say that. Farage has insisted on creating a coalition of foreigners and immigrants filled with Muslims in high power.

Not saying those people can't be British in a generation or two but people that have been here for 15 minutes are not going to have Brittons best interest

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