Same folks who are opposing everything about Iran think we need to go full bore behind Ukraine so they can strike deep into Russia. Brilliant plan there, worked out great for Napoleon and Hitler and back then Russia didn't have nukes. Ruben Gallego and these Dems are beyond idiots.

Ukraine is winning right now. We should arm them, give them the intelligence they need, and let them strike deep into Russia. Instead we're making them beg for it. Democrat or Republican, the next administration has to make the decision: we want Ukraine to win.… pic.twitter.com/YgUVrSQolI

— Senator Ruben Gallego (@SenRubenGallego) May 2, 2026

If Rubio, Desantis or JD doesn't win in '28, WW3 is all but guaranteed

He can say whatever he wants, but we're not sending Kiev money any longer, and are significantly delaying key arms shipments/sales to replenish our stocks no matter how much Democrats complain about it.

I think his calculus/justification as to what we should do based on 'who is winning' as though it's a sports game is a bit absurd, at best. A few months ago, this clown was a dark horse Dem VP candidate.

ETA, I think the left is upset about $400 million/year 'Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative' (USAI) being cut in the Presidents' DoD budget request. This allowed Ukraine-specific weapons contracting within the pentagon budget.

Sen. Angus King (I-ME) - Of the $400 million appropriated last year by a bipartisan, bicameral act of Congress, not a dollar has been disbursed.

SEN. ANGUS KING: One of the factors of this budget that hasn't gotten any publicity is there's zero funding for Ukraine. That's… pic.twitter.com/xNVoF9i27G

— Kateryna Lisunova (@KaterynaLis) May 1, 2026

Not the best clip/source, sorry, but I was trying to figure out the cause of Ruben's frustration above, this am.

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If Rubio, Desantis or JD doesn't win in '28, WW3 is all but guaranteed

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It sure seems that way.

Gallego should just send his earwax to Zelensky to smear on Putin, that should achieve his kind of victory

Anyone know the total amount we've given to Ukraine since their war began?

Edit to add: Copilot tells me it is about $185B.

Ukraine is winning? Another 4 years of "winning" and they won't be on the map

I thought the Democrats were against "forever" wars?

Invade Russia all 6.6 million square miles. Worked well for Germany is World War eleven (Omar's war notes)

And the media ignore their lies, contradictions and duplicity at all times.

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I thought the Democrats were against "forever" wars?

Invade Russia all 6.6 million square miles. Worked well for Germany is World War eleven (Omar's war notes)

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Agree but with this caveat: China. Has not happened yet but there could develop a set of circumstances wherein China perceives Russia as too weak to repel a "modest" (whatever that is) land grab from Russia's east. Not an invasion and take over of Russia but lessen their size. (Read as access to key resources.)

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Ukraine is winning? Another 4 years of "winning" and they won't be on the map

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Another four years at the rate Russia has been advancing would look pretty much the same as now.

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Let Europe and Gallegos flush their money down that toilet. We have spent way more than warranted, which is $0.

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Ukraine is winning? Another 4 years of "winning" and they won't be on the map

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They are net capturing territory back right now. Have been for a few weeks. Theyve also done considerable damage to Russian energy infrastructure lately. At the rate Russia is going, they will run out of military age males before they capture Ukraine.

Grifters in Congress from BOTH parties gain $$$$ when U.S. sends stuff to Ukraine. Lets get that revenue stream going again

Possibly, but I'd like to see the evidence versus allegations.

I support the long term and slow destruction of the Iranian regime with limited to no ground troops.

I support our actions in Venezuela

I support an over throw of the Cuban regime with limited ground troops. Although this should be easy and right in our backyard.

I don't care about Ukraine at all. It's a manufactured war Biden created for corruption and the MIC.

Russia is a boomer fear. They've done nothing to me in my 45 years.

You won't because much of the money is unaccounted for. By design.

This is just another USAID with even less accountability. At least with Iran, the end result of a neutered iran will save American taxpayers significant money and resources. Ukraine is not going to destroy Russia no matter what, so there is no great result for America.

Feel free to send Zelenskyy personal checks if it makes you feel better.

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Spoken like someone who never had duck and cover drills and jumping under their desks when in elementary school. We had all sorts of drills back then. Fire drills, bomb threat drills and of course, nuclear holocaust drills.

Made an impression.

TheCurl84 said:

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Anyone know the total amount we've given to Ukraine since their war began?

Edit to add: Copilot tells me it is about $185B.

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Copilot I am not familiar with but likely in the right ball park. Trump has asserted the total of $300350 billion, which is higher than official U.S. government and independent estimates. Broader Ukraine-related efforts including U.S. operations in Europe, or roughly $127 billion in direct aid, plus some 'loans' that will never be repaid which we facilitated via the World Bank, or USAID/CIA-related 'assistance.' PURL notably has also been allowed to continue in '47.

Actual military/security assistance is in the $65 to 67 billion range, but part of that is due to the contentious nature of 'presidential draw downs' where the value of a fully depreciated MLRS system/missile for instance is fairly debatable and quite different vs. the replacement cost (but the other argument is we would have had to scrap them if not sent abroad).

Trump's $350 billion estimate probably includes the gray spending/valuations and less disclosed spending like USAI at issue this week, imho (not defending this fwiw, just speculating as he hasn't clarified).

ShaggySLC said:

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I thought it was all but guaranteed 3 or so years ago. Keep killing Russians and smash Iran.

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Ukraine is winning? Another 4 years of "winning" and they won't be on the map

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Over the past two months Russia has lost net territory, and its largely on the back of Ukraine's own military development and European assistance.

All they really need from us at this point is intelligence assistance and that costs us basically nothing.

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Ukraine is winning? Another 4 years of "winning" and they won't be on the map

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Russia has less Ukrainian territory now than they did a year ago.

Seems it's going the OTHER way for Ukraine...

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Spoken like someone who never had duck and cover drills and jumping under their desks when in elementary school. We had all sorts of drills back then. Fire drills, bomb threat drills and of course, nuclear holocaust drills.

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I legitimately imagine it did. I don't doubt that. That's why it's a boomer generation fear.

That said… We don't need to spend money today, that the boomers already spent all of, on soothing the childhood traumas of the boomers.

There is no Democrat "logic" involved with supporting Ukraine and opposing action in Iran. It's all about two things: protecting their cut of the funding going to Ukraine, and protecting the dubious Obama/Biden legacy of making no nukes deals with Iran. Trump is blowing up both. It's really as simple as that.

Add to that, seems most liberals that fly the Ukraine flag and have the stickers on cars (hello Houston Heights), really support it as some sort of backwards Orange Man Bad thing.. supporting Ukraine is anti-trump activism for some reason.

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Russia is a boomer fear. They've done nothing to me in my 45 years.

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Spoken like someone who never had duck and cover drills and jumping under their desks when in elementary school. We had all sorts of drills back then. Fire drills, bomb threat drills and of course, nuclear holocaust drills.

Made an impression.

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I legitimately imagine it did. I don't doubt that. That's why it's a boomer generation fear.

That said… We don't need to spend money today, that the boomers already spent all of, on soothing the childhood traumas of the boomers.

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We were also reacting to our parents. When they were upset, we were scared. Was a toddler during the Cuban Missile Crisis. No idea what was really going on other than they were glued to the TV set and a lot of programming was preempted

Then JFK was shot. Was it the Soviets? A signal for a coming attack? Do we need to build a bomb shelter?

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Add to that, seems most liberals that fly the Ukraine flag and have the stickers on cars (hello Houston Heights), really support it as some sort of backwards Orange Man Bad thing.. supporting Ukraine is anti-trump activism for some reason.

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Of course it is. They don't care about Ukraine at all.

Remember during COVID when they made wearing a mask their overt, physical sign of "resistance" to Trump being POTUS? Everything they do is virtue signaling TDS.

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Must be a typo. Its more like $113B on Iran already.
They are asking for 100s of billions more.

Thats all US taxpayer fund outflow. Any Trump deal probably includes sanctions relief for Iran worth 100s of billions of inflow on their end.