if all appeal maps pass, Rs net 5-7 seats

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BigRobSA said:

5-7 seats to get absolutely nothing good done with.

Keeping the dems out of power is something good, even if the GOP doesn't get anything else done.
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The 2030 census is the dagger.
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TAMU1990 said:

The 2030 census is the dagger.


If the Dems control the WH, what's to keep them from cheating? Obama moved the census admin to the executive branch.

That's my concern.
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Logos Stick said:

Are the numbers here correct? I did a quick check and it looks correct.

Seems Rs will pick up seats this year regardless.



Mississippi is redrawing and will add a seat

Right now, if Virginia new map stays in place it is 216-202 Dems with 17 toss ups

If you add 9 seats from Alabama, Louisiana, Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, south Carolina. (You can add 11 seats total from these states, but I do not think they get to that number, so I put 9 to be safe)

Add 9 and the outlook is 210R vs 207D with 17 toss ups

If Virginia gets overturned it will be 214R to 203D

So in the end Rs will need 4 or 8 toss ups to win. If it is 8, the house will go Dem probably. With gas prices as they are Rs winning 8 or the 17 is just not going to happen or at least I do not see it
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Teslag said:

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Colorado will probably add 1-2 D seats


They won't until 2028. At which point the GOP will add more in Tennessee, Georgia, and others.

Nebraska (1) Indiana (2) Kansas (1), Utah (1) South Carolina (1) Georgia none or 2

If Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida redraw and max out in 2026 they cannot add anymore

The complete total will be around 16~18 flips for the Rs, depending on Georgia

You may have an issue with Georgia, if the Dems win the Governor office they will not redraw, which is why Kemp is suck a little B for not doing it now. Dem Gov. candidate is winning in polling

Once the Dem states redraw before 2028 it will be close to a wash, they can add a lot of seats too, people say they are maxed out but that is just not true

If the census is done correctly in 2030 (no illegals counted) (very important an R wins in 2028) than Rs will add around 15 seats due to migration to Red states.
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Rex Racer said:

BigRobSA said:

5-7 seats to get absolutely nothing good done with.

Keeping the dems out of power is something good, even if the GOP doesn't get anything else done.


You'd hope so, but there are McCains and Romneys all over.


Just wish the GOP would use any power to actually make changes in a conservative direction.
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If the census is done correctly in 2030 (no illegals counted) (very important an R wins in 2028) than Rs will add around 15 seats due to migration to Red states.

And the results of the Census compiled and released within a year, so 2031 before 2032 election.
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2026NCAggies said:





Once the Dem states redraw before 2028 it will be close to a wash, they can add a lot of seats too, people say they are maxed out but that is just not true

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Where do the Dems have left to add? Genuine question.
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2026NCAggies said:

Teslag said:

Z3phyr said:

Colorado will probably add 1-2 D seats


They won't until 2028. At which point the GOP will add more in Tennessee, Georgia, and others.

Nebraska (1) Indiana (2) Kansas (1), Utah (1) South Carolina (1) Georgia none or 2

If Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida redraw and max out in 2026 they cannot add anymore

The complete total will be around 16~18 flips for the Rs, depending on Georgia

You may have an issue with Georgia, if the Dems win the Governor office they will not redraw, which is why Kemp is suck a little B for not doing it now. Dem Gov. candidate is winning in polling

Once the Dem states redraw before 2028 it will be close to a wash, they can add a lot of seats too, people say they are maxed out but that is just not true

If the census is done correctly in 2030 (no illegals counted) (very important an R wins in 2028) than Rs will add around 15 seats due to migration to Red states.


Where are you getting that from?

The only Dems states that have total state control and can redraw at will are the following states:

Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Mexico
Oregon


That is 37 D / 6 R right now.

if they eliminated every R that's a pickup of 6. It won't be a wash.
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BigRobSA said:

Rex Racer said:

BigRobSA said:

5-7 seats to get absolutely nothing good done with.

Keeping the dems out of power is something good, even if the GOP doesn't get anything else done.


You'd hope so, but there are McCains and Romneys all over.


Just wish the GOP would use any power to actually make changes in a conservative direction.

I'm with you.
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LOYAL AG said:

2026NCAggies said:





Once the Dem states redraw before 2028 it will be close to a wash, they can add a lot of seats too, people say they are maxed out but that is just not true

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Where do the Dems have left to add? Genuine question.


NY and California but they will be tough without diluting. Those states are heavily condensed to urban areas.
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Under-estimated fact is that NM and AZ alike are trending GOP without the vote fraud due primarily to the shift in hispanic voters.
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nortex97 said:

Under-estimated fact is that NM and AZ alike are trending GOP without the vote fraud due primarily to the shift in hispanic voters.


I do not think either Arizona or NM are trending to red. Arizona is definitely still trending blue, due to Cali migration. Their Governor is projected to beat Andy Biggs, who is another lackluster candidate put up by the Arizona GOP. Poll averages have Hobbs winning by 10

Hobbs is a terrible Governor btw

Hispanics might HAVE been trending R but I do not think that is the case anymore. They are a group that you will have to continually pursue and they likely will swing depending on the situation

Nevada is trending Red, the current R governor is favored to win again... But the cheat machine is still alive and that is why there are 2 Dem senators in that state. I watched the last two senate elections there and both Dem candidates won by counting newly found mail in ballots. Hopefully the R Governor can change that
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No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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Logos Stick said:

2026NCAggies said:

Teslag said:

Z3phyr said:

Colorado will probably add 1-2 D seats


They won't until 2028. At which point the GOP will add more in Tennessee, Georgia, and others.

Nebraska (1) Indiana (2) Kansas (1), Utah (1) South Carolina (1) Georgia none or 2

If Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida redraw and max out in 2026 they cannot add anymore

The complete total will be around 16~18 flips for the Rs, depending on Georgia

You may have an issue with Georgia, if the Dems win the Governor office they will not redraw, which is why Kemp is suck a little B for not doing it now. Dem Gov. candidate is winning in polling

Once the Dem states redraw before 2028 it will be close to a wash, they can add a lot of seats too, people say they are maxed out but that is just not true

If the census is done correctly in 2030 (no illegals counted) (very important an R wins in 2028) than Rs will add around 15 seats due to migration to Red states.


Where are you getting that from?

The only Dems states that have total state control and can redraw at will are the following states:

Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Mexico
Oregon


That is 37 D / 6 R right now.

if they eliminated every R that's a pickup of 6. It won't be a wash.

Virginia will get 4 eventually, might not be 2026 but by 2028 they will.
Cali can add at least 1 to 2 if not more
New York will add more
Maine has one they can terminate
Minnesota? Idk if they are controlled completely by Dems?
Illinois can add a couple

Like Virginia if Dems get complete control of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. They will Gerrymander. Thankfully I think each of those states will stay the same, if not turn more red but you never know.

Michigan will be a fun one to watch this election. John James seems to be polling really really well for Governor and is a fantastic candidate. Mike Rogers is neck and neck in the senate polls and will be going up against a bad candidate

The R governor candidate in Wisconsin is the favorite to win right now
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I do not think either Arizona or NM are trending to red. Arizona is definitely still trending blue, due to Cali migration. Their Governor is projected to beat Andy Biggs, who is another lackluster candidate put up by the Arizona GOP. Poll averages have Hobbs winning by 10

Hobbs is a terrible Governor btw

Until Runbeck is completely shut down, AZ elections will be fraudulent.
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AZ still has a 320K GOP voter registration advantage (which has grown since 2020, though not this year). The problem isn't the voters, but the vote counters.

The GOP has functionally dominated lawmaking at the state level but have continuously lost at the federal one for many years (partially thanks to the McCain widow/machinery, tbf). It's dysfunctional, at a state party level, at best.

Yes, Hobbs is a horrific and contemptible governor/person, though.
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AZ still has a 320K GOP voter registration advantage (which has grown since 2020, though not this year). The problem isn't the voters, but the vote counters.

320K? That's nothing for Runbeck to overcome in a day or two. Took them ten days in 2020 to wipe out Trump's vote in 2020. Sure they have improved that capability by now.
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2026NCAggies said:

nortex97 said:

Under-estimated fact is that NM and AZ alike are trending GOP without the vote fraud due primarily to the shift in hispanic voters.


I do not think either Arizona or NM are trending to red. Arizona is definitely still trending blue, due to Cali migration. Their Governor is projected to beat Andy Biggs, who is another lackluster candidate put up by the Arizona GOP. Poll averages have Hobbs winning by 10

Hobbs is a terrible Governor btw

Hispanics might HAVE been trending R but I do not think that is the case anymore. They are a group that you will have to continually pursue and they likely will swing depending on the situation

Nevada is trending Red, the current R governor is favored to win again... But the cheat machine is still alive and that is why there are 2 Dem senators in that state. I watched the last two senate elections there and both Dem candidates won by counting newly found mail in ballots. Hopefully the R Governor can change that


You put a lot of stock in polling
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I guess Massey caved.
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Indiana won't redistrict this year but at least 6 and possibly 7 of the 8 state senator rino's who killed doing so, lost their primary. A 7th was/is clinging to a 3 vote margin and might hang on.

As one might expect, they're not taking it well.

Maybe try listening to your constituents if you do ever hold office again, loser.
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Replying to myself is tacky but there's zero reason this shouldn't happen at this point.

Shane Massey (R) is their senate majority leader who is apparently unmoved to rid America of Clyburn.

He should at least let the senate vote on it, I would think.
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House Rules Cmte votes yes, will still need to be approved by the full House:

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12-2, wow. Why does Massey say he would need Dem votes to advance it in the senate? 2/3 majority reference? 34 of the 46 state senators are Republicans per DDG?

Chat gpt-driven response:
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Short answer: Yes but only if they can meet the ordinarylaw votes and overcome any Senate rules that require a supermajority.
Why: South Carolina congressional and legislative maps are enacted by the General Assembly as statutes (subject to the governor's veto). With the current Republican majorities (34 of 46 in the Senate; GOP control of the House) Republicans can pass redistricting bills without Democratic votes so long as they hold enough GOP votes to:
  • Win passage in each chamber by a simple majority (or the chamber's required threshold for that bill), and
  • Either secure the governor's signature or override a gubernatorial veto (overrides require twothirds ofeach chamber).
Practical constraints that may require Democrats' support
  • Veto override: If the governor refuses to sign, Republicans need twothirds in both chambers to override.That is a higher bar and may require some Democrats.
  • Any chamber rule requiring a supermajority or special procedure (e.g., amending a sine die resolution tocall a special session) the House has indicated amending such resolutions may need twothirds.


He sure sounds like he is looking after his Democrat donor base, imho (though I don't track SC laws/procedures).
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Sign me up.
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nortex97 said:


Sign me up.

Kemp is blocking redistricting in Georgia for 2026 and a Dem might win the governors race. If that happens, Georgia will not redistrict for awhile, might be 8 years

Kemp is such a loser, and little B
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Correct on Kemp but I think they will be forced to change by 2028. Racist maps no longer will fly.


I also dont think the democrat will win for governor (nor senator). Just my two cents.
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yes sir!

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There is a lot to do cleaning up the Republican party.

Republicans have to win every election in the future.
Democrats only need to win one.

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They acted like such fools in Tennessee. I get being upset when your side loses but that was disgusting uncivilized behavior
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Ag1188 said:

4 said:

I'm just happy to see the Rs FINALLY fighting back instead of always "taking the high road" and allowing the Ds to walk all over them.

Lmao. Wut? It was republicans who started all this. R's added like 10 seats, and only then did Dems ever do anything. I get Viktor Orban is Trump's role model but good lord. Lol

This is dumb...really, really dumb
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JWinTX said:

Ag1188 said:

4 said:

I'm just happy to see the Rs FINALLY fighting back instead of always "taking the high road" and allowing the Ds to walk all over them.

Lmao. Wut? It was republicans who started all this. R's added like 10 seats, and only then did Dems ever do anything. I get Viktor Orban is Trump's role model but good lord. Lol

This is dumb...really, really dumb


What's really dumb is that Republicans let Democrats get away with this in the Northeast and California and never made an issue of it. Hard not to come to the realization that the Republican party was just controlled opposition.
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Tennessee completed their new map today in a special session (already now signed by governor, pending pathetic lefty lawfare challenge which will fail yet again). Democrats reacted as one would expect to a map that very likely adds a black US Representative to the state.

There's a lot of profanity/screeching/profanity on various videos out there of the voting (I think one Democrat state rep got in a shoving/cursing match with a state trooper). Hopefully this one is clean:
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I am glad to see Republicans fight back against the Democrats in the redistricting warfare. I hope we retain control of at least the Senate in November.
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