iceman08 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Go to court, lose, get sent to another country. Ya know, because you are in "fear" of your original country which is why you are seeking asylum.

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Openly admitting they were lying about claims of asylum.

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95%, or more, of those millions of asylum claims are BS.

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This is false.

Now, there is fraud in many asylum claims, but it's nowhere near that high. This is hyperbolic language to lump many people seeking help into the camp of the bad actors taking advantage of the system. There are many people out there that are seeking safe refuge based on one of the protected grounds spelled out in asylum law.

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Wrong!

95%+ are "I want asylum because my country sucks". That doesn't qualify for asylum.

iceman08 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Go to court, lose, get sent to another country. Ya know, because you are in "fear" of your original country which is why you are seeking asylum.

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Openly admitting they were lying about claims of asylum.

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95%, or more, of those millions of asylum claims are BS.

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This is false.

Now, there is fraud in many asylum claims, but it's nowhere near that high. This is hyperbolic language to lump many people seeking help into the camp of the bad actors taking advantage of the system. There are many people out there that are seeking safe refuge based on one of the protected grounds spelled out in asylum law.

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76% of asylum cases are rejected. Is that an acceptable level of fraud for you?

https://www.visaverge.com/immigration/immigration-court-sets-new-record-for-asylum-decisions-and-denials/

Asylum denial does not necessarily mean they filed a fraudulent I-589 (Asylum application). In many cases it means they just don't qualify for asylum. Asylum can be denied for many reasons, for example not filing a claim within 1 year of arrival. I'm not saying fraud doesn't exist, just trying to broadly provide some info.

Also, once somone is referred, this is for in person asylum interviews, they go in front of an immigration judge (which could take forever...).

I won't post any numbers or percentages. Just know I have worked in and studied immigration since 2010. Yall can choose to believe or not, but I wanted to bring a little clarity based on my own history.

Logos Stick said:

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iceman08 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Go to court, lose, get sent to another country. Ya know, because you are in "fear" of your original country which is why you are seeking asylum.

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Openly admitting they were lying about claims of asylum.

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95%, or more, of those millions of asylum claims are BS.

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This is false.

Now, there is fraud in many asylum claims, but it's nowhere near that high. This is hyperbolic language to lump many people seeking help into the camp of the bad actors taking advantage of the system. There are many people out there that are seeking safe refuge based on one of the protected grounds spelled out in asylum law.

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Wrong!

95%+ are "I want asylum because my country sucks". That doesn't qualify for asylum.

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Again, the hyperbolic language is not accurate. But you are correct in stating just because conditions in the applicants home country "sucks" does not qualify for a grant of asylum. The claim must be based on one of the protected grounds stated in asylum law.

iceman08 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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iceman08 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Go to court, lose, get sent to another country. Ya know, because you are in "fear" of your original country which is why you are seeking asylum.

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Openly admitting they were lying about claims of asylum.

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95%, or more, of those millions of asylum claims are BS.

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This is false.

Now, there is fraud in many asylum claims, but it's nowhere near that high. This is hyperbolic language to lump many people seeking help into the camp of the bad actors taking advantage of the system. There are many people out there that are seeking safe refuge based on one of the protected grounds spelled out in asylum law.

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Wrong!

95%+ are "I want asylum because my country sucks". That doesn't qualify for asylum.

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Again, the hyperbolic language is not accurate. But you are correct in stating just because conditions in the applicants home country "sucks" does not qualify for a grant of asylum. The claim must be based on one of the protected grounds stated in asylum law.

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76% ---> 95% is not hyperbolic, but $30,000,000 to $95,000 is.

Principal Uncertainty said:

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iceman08 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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iceman08 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Go to court, lose, get sent to another country. Ya know, because you are in "fear" of your original country which is why you are seeking asylum.

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Openly admitting they were lying about claims of asylum.

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95%, or more, of those millions of asylum claims are BS.

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This is false.

Now, there is fraud in many asylum claims, but it's nowhere near that high. This is hyperbolic language to lump many people seeking help into the camp of the bad actors taking advantage of the system. There are many people out there that are seeking safe refuge based on one of the protected grounds spelled out in asylum law.

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Wrong!

95%+ are "I want asylum because my country sucks". That doesn't qualify for asylum.

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Again, the hyperbolic language is not accurate. But you are correct in stating just because conditions in the applicants home country "sucks" does not qualify for a grant of asylum. The claim must be based on one of the protected grounds stated in asylum law.

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76% ---> 95% is not hyperbolic, but $30,000,000 to $95,000 is.

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Just parcing it out a bit, 76% is a large number yes, but some of those denials are fraud, "my country sucks" claims as well as some truly believing they have a claim, so they file and try for asylum. You also have attorneys searching for anyone they can convince to file a claim, knowing full well there isn't a legal claim there. They take their money, file the claim and they never see the applicant again. So that adds to the backlog as well. Some also file just to get a work permit while they wait for their interview or court date.

I'm just saying there are several different reasons for a denial of asylum, it's not all just fraud or just "my country sucks." many people have been harmed but by the definitions provided within asylum law, they can't be granted asylum because it's not based on a protected ground.

That may be true historically but that all went out the window CBP One App. The asylum approval rate through the app was astronomical in 2024, over 40%

CBP One had its problems for sure. Being able to file an asylum application from anywhere, especially if you were already out of the country mucked up the system for people that genuinely have valid asylum claims.

And remember, this is just one way people attempted to apply for asylum. CBP One was more for people at the border just trying to cross and get an asylum screening.

There is another version of the asylum process where somone is already here in the US and they apply. Some are people that crossed the border and were not caught or they traveled here on a valid visa (student, tourist, etc.) or they were an unaccompanied alien child and they were caught, put in immigration processing and claimed asylum while their processing was going on.

Basically, there's a lot going on. So to say "95% is all fraud" or "95% is all, my country sucks" claims is too simplified of a view. Some of that absolutely happens, just not at rates that high.

Also, the stuff through CBP One was just an asylum screening, which is a very low bar to hit. But that doesn't mean those people are granted asylum, just means they met the low threshold to be put in front of an immigration judge who will determine if they should be granted or deported.