BQ78 said:

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But not illegal until there is fraud

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Just violations of HAVA (which requires states to certify how they are spending their federal funds each year) and the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.

ETA: Which in case people are confused is fraud for false certification to the government. HAVA and the NVRA require states to maintain their voter rolls but it doesn't specify which method they are required to use. And that ambiguity is what allowed the left wing organization ERIC to be utilized. States could just pay them $25, 000 per year to maintain their voter rolls. Cheap as hell. Why so cheap? Because that information fetched high dollars on the market. And ERIC membership specifically forbade states from using their own information in such a way.

Not a Dem, but I guess you can argue "but I'm not dead" like in Holy Grail.

aggiehawg said:

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You work or have worked elections, IIRC. No?

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On the vote count/tabulation side. Nearly 30 years now.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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aggiehawg said:

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You work or have worked elections, IIRC. No?

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On the vote count/tabulation side. Nearly 30 years now.

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So by the time a ballot even gets to you it has been verified (for lack of a better term)?

BQ78 said:

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But not illegal until there is fraud

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Well yea, it's not illegal until it is. That's kinda how that works

If you remove them, they can't vote. Duh.

NorthSideCloseKnit said:

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Glad to see people are continuing to call out the need for election integrity and security. Apparently the Dems defend it as it makes voter rolls auditable. The state checks voters against the active voter roll. If somebody tries to commit voter fraud by voting for a deceased person, then the state can check the active voter roll. If the deceased voters are deleted entirely from the system, then how could it be audited? Seems like removing deceased people entirely would create a bigger security gap.

The following link lays out the arguments from the Dems and the GOP. Patriot Fetch - Minnesota Democrats Block Efforts To Remove Deceased Voters From Rolls

I don't know how credible that site is, but it's the most helpful info I found without a knee jerk reaction in either direction.

As quoted in the article: "Despite the provocative rhetoric, the voting records tell a more detailed story. Democrats... argue that while deceased voters are marked in the databases, retaining these records is essential. This practice helps prevent identity fraud by keeping a historical account that can signal any efforts to impersonate someone who has passed away....
..."Deceased voters are marked as deceased and removed from the list of active voters upon notification from the Minnesota Department of Health or Social Security Administration. Voter records marked as 'deceased' are not active and therefore not included on any voting roster or public information list.""

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The point being it isn't illegal to leave the dead on the rolls, just suspect.

BQ78 said:

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The point being it isn't illegal to leave the dead on the rolls, just suspect.

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Until the election officials have to lie to the federal government about the purpose of the federal money...oh wait.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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That's a crock of horse*****

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You can go read it in their statutes, not that I expect you to.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/201.13

Someone please help me with how this "audit" works. First of all, any auditor in the great fraud state of Minnesota already perks my ears up because you're likely giving said auditor an awful lot of power to either facilitate fraud or look the other way.

I understand their ham-fisted attempt at why they need to keep deceased voters on the roll so they can somehow police anyone trying to use their ID to vote illegally. My retort is if they're not on the roll they can't request a ballot at all for that deceased person because they're no longer on there.

Please make it make sense. We're told over and over again there is no voter fraud, that's a silly conservative talking point so why keep the dead on the rolls so they can "track it." I don't trust them to track jack *****

Auditing for fraud seems to be a Minnesota strength. Just look at the job they did with daycare centers & federal funding.

They're not going to audit shlt and everybody knows it

Without the dead voting, the only thing left to vote Democratic are the stupid, the dumb, and the lazy

Oh crap, I just described the majority that live/are buried in Minnesota.