We are the product --> GM sold your data + Ken Paxton

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Over_ed
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https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/when-it-comes-data-privacy-consumers-must-be-driver%E2%80%99s-seat-attorney-general

Yesterday , CA agreed to a settlement with GM for selling CA drivers' information to insurance companies. GM did this in spite of promises to buyers not to. $12.7 million settlement and several hundred thousand of driver's were affected. In CA, insurers cannot raise insured costs based on driver behavior information (speeding, hard braking...).

Drivers in other states were not so lucky. For instance, Texas insurance companies can use this information to raise rates or deny coverage. And they did for at least some of the 1.8 million GM's OnStar customers in Texas.

I was looking to see how GM's behavior affected Texas drivers and Paxton's name popped up.

The Texas AG "aggressively filed suit last year against Allstate and its data subsidiary, Arity" for trying to sell driver behavior info. The goal of the lawsuit is to force Allstate to stop the collection, delete the data already gathered, and pay civil penalties that could reach $10,000 per violation. He also sued GM, btw.

If any of that matters to you in a couple of weeks.

To be clear, my wife and I had already decided who we think better. Not Cornyn. And for trucks we prefer Fords.
samurai_science
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Over_ed said:

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/when-it-comes-data-privacy-consumers-must-be-driver%E2%80%99s-seat-attorney-general

Yesterday , CA agreed to a settlement with GM for selling CA drivers' information to insurance companies. GM did this in spite of promises to buyers not to. $12.7 million settlement and several hundred thousand of driver's were affected. In CA, insurers cannot raise insured costs based on driver behavior information (speeding, hard braking...).

Drivers in other states were not so lucky. For instance, Texas insurance companies can use this information to raise rates or deny coverage. And they did for at least some of the 1.8 million GM's OnStar customers in Texas.

I was looking to see how GM's behavior affected Texas drivers and Paxton's name popped up.

The Texas AG "aggressively filed suit last year against Allstate and its data subsidiary, Arity" for trying to sell driver behavior info. The goal of the lawsuit is to force Allstate to stop the collection, delete the data already gathered, and pay civil penalties that could reach $10,000 per violation. He also sued GM, btw.

If any of that matters to you in a couple of weeks.

To be clear, my wife and I had already decided who we think better. Not Cornyn. And for trucks we prefer Fords.


I prefer trucks built in Texas by non union workers
doubledog
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[sarcasm] Companies selling private information. That never happens! [/sarcasm]
Kansas Kid
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But I was assured repeatedly on Texags that only EVs could track people like Big Brother and that is why to never buy one. Who would have guessed that all GM cars along with essentially every other modern vehicle can track us.
TxSquarebody
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I prefer my trucks 40+ years old without electronics!
BonfireNerd04
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We should have let GM go out of business back in 2009.
BigRobSA
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doubledog said:

[sarcasm] Companies selling private information. That never happens! [/sarcasm]

You better be being sarcastic.


Sometimes it's hard to tell!
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samurai_science said:

Over_ed said:

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/when-it-comes-data-privacy-consumers-must-be-driver%E2%80%99s-seat-attorney-general

Yesterday , CA agreed to a settlement with GM for selling CA drivers' information to insurance companies. GM did this in spite of promises to buyers not to. $12.7 million settlement and several hundred thousand of driver's were affected. In CA, insurers cannot raise insured costs based on driver behavior information (speeding, hard braking...).

Drivers in other states were not so lucky. For instance, Texas insurance companies can use this information to raise rates or deny coverage. And they did for at least some of the 1.8 million GM's OnStar customers in Texas.

I was looking to see how GM's behavior affected Texas drivers and Paxton's name popped up.

The Texas AG "aggressively filed suit last year against Allstate and its data subsidiary, Arity" for trying to sell driver behavior info. The goal of the lawsuit is to force Allstate to stop the collection, delete the data already gathered, and pay civil penalties that could reach $10,000 per violation. He also sued GM, btw.

If any of that matters to you in a couple of weeks.

To be clear, my wife and I had already decided who we think better. Not Cornyn. And for trucks we prefer Fords.


I prefer trucks built in Texas by non union workers

You mean the ones that are built here and live here and send all the profits back to japan?
CrackerJackAg
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4 said:

samurai_science said:

Over_ed said:

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/when-it-comes-data-privacy-consumers-must-be-driver%E2%80%99s-seat-attorney-general

Yesterday , CA agreed to a settlement with GM for selling CA drivers' information to insurance companies. GM did this in spite of promises to buyers not to. $12.7 million settlement and several hundred thousand of driver's were affected. In CA, insurers cannot raise insured costs based on driver behavior information (speeding, hard braking...).

Drivers in other states were not so lucky. For instance, Texas insurance companies can use this information to raise rates or deny coverage. And they did for at least some of the 1.8 million GM's OnStar customers in Texas.

I was looking to see how GM's behavior affected Texas drivers and Paxton's name popped up.

The Texas AG "aggressively filed suit last year against Allstate and its data subsidiary, Arity" for trying to sell driver behavior info. The goal of the lawsuit is to force Allstate to stop the collection, delete the data already gathered, and pay civil penalties that could reach $10,000 per violation. He also sued GM, btw.

If any of that matters to you in a couple of weeks.

To be clear, my wife and I had already decided who we think better. Not Cornyn. And for trucks we prefer Fords.


I prefer trucks built in Texas by non union workers

You mean the ones that are built here and live here and send all the profits back to japan?


Profits are small compared to the total injected into the economy. Not to mention the fact that the profit goes to stock holders.
Fannie Luddite
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Also a federal judge has cleared the way for 40 private lawsuits to continue against GM for data collection via On-star without consent.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2026/05/gm-onstar-lawsuit-to-continue-in-court/

There is one account where a person had his data collected and sold, but bought his car used. He didn't consent to GM for anything GM, since GM wasn't a party to the transaction. I would like someone in his position to pursue criminal penalties.
DonHenley
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Ken has been such a great AG I sort of wish he just ran again as AG
DatTallArchitect
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Over_ed said:

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/when-it-comes-data-privacy-consumers-must-be-driver%E2%80%99s-seat-attorney-general

Yesterday , CA agreed to a settlement with GM for selling CA drivers' information to insurance companies. GM did this in spite of promises to buyers not to. $12.7 million settlement and several hundred thousand of driver's were affected. In CA, insurers cannot raise insured costs based on driver behavior information (speeding, hard braking...).

Drivers in other states were not so lucky. For instance, Texas insurance companies can use this information to raise rates or deny coverage. And they did for at least some of the 1.8 million GM's OnStar customers in Texas.

I was looking to see how GM's behavior affected Texas drivers and Paxton's name popped up.

The Texas AG "aggressively filed suit last year against Allstate and its data subsidiary, Arity" for trying to sell driver behavior info. The goal of the lawsuit is to force Allstate to stop the collection, delete the data already gathered, and pay civil penalties that could reach $10,000 per violation. He also sued GM, btw.

If any of that matters to you in a couple of weeks.

To be clear, my wife and I had already decided who we think better. Not Cornyn. And for trucks we prefer Fords.
Ford is doing this as well
Waffledynamics
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Just another reason I'm not in any hurry to upgrade to a newer car. I may keep mine until it completely dies.

Anything broadcasting more data will be used against you.
Greener Acres
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Over_ed said:

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/when-it-comes-data-privacy-consumers-must-be-driver%E2%80%99s-seat-attorney-general

Yesterday , CA agreed to a settlement with GM for selling CA drivers' information to insurance companies. GM did this in spite of promises to buyers not to. $12.7 million settlement and several hundred thousand of driver's were affected. In CA, insurers cannot raise insured costs based on driver behavior information (speeding, hard braking...).

Drivers in other states were not so lucky. For instance, Texas insurance companies can use this information to raise rates or deny coverage. And they did for at least some of the 1.8 million GM's OnStar customers in Texas.

It will be interesting to see what sort of resolution comes from this suit. California has led the way with a settlement separate from the 40 state AGs that are suing GM (the suit Texas is in). So the question is why didn't they other states get resolution yet considering California often Carrie the bigger stick with the large population.
Ellis Wyatt
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Someone said "only electric vehicles" could track people? I don't believe you.

At least since the advent of On Star, GM has been tracking people, or had the ability to.
infinity ag
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That's actually what Facebook/Meta does.
ts5641
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DonHenley said:

Ken has been such a great AG I sort of wish he just ran again as AG

He has been and will be a great Senator. Talk to everyone you know and tell them who talarico really is.
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