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docb said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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docb said:

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Whatever is being done to drop prices…. It's not working.

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What would you have done to drop prices?

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It's not my job. I am an American citizen and voter that expects their elected officials to make good on their campaign promises. But at least with you asking that question you are at least indirectly acknowledging that there is a problem with high prices for the average American citizen.

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It is your job. We elect representatives to... represent our wishes. So it most certainly is your job to inform your representative and hold them accountable.

There are higher prices, no one can refute that. To the degree you view it as a "problem" is a matter of personal experience and perspective.

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It doesn't affect me that much in the grand scheme of things but I have a lot of employees that it really hurts to pay way higher prices for food and fuel. I guess you can call me a softy for having concerns for the average American.

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All people care about and notice is Gas prices and grocery prices.

Get them down and you win the midterms.

Trump needs to lower all tariffs on food products to 0. Hell i'd get cute and cut the taxes on grocery products just for the midterms. It is what a DEM would do

And open the damn strait already, idk why they stopped the Freedom operation, pretty stupid of the president not to put a priority on the strait.

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Yep, hell do something, maybe that first year of non-stop TARIFFS TARIFFS TARIFFS wasn't the best idea. Infuriating.

Are people really hurting or just complaining? Because I see much more of the latter than the former.

flown-the-coop said:

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Are people really hurting or just complaining? Because I see much more of the latter than the former.

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Complaining that they are hurting. And it's a fair assessment.

Buy Walmart.

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MemphisAg1 said:

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That's an ugly picture. It shows what we know happened with the big Bidenflation that spiked in 2022 and 2023. Then it eased and wages gradually made up to recover some of the lost ground. But this latest inflation spike threatens to turn it upside down again. I hope not. I'm about to retire and have three sons in their mid 30's who are getting off to a good start in life. None of us want to be derailed by the inflation monster.

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Sorry for the bad news, but if you voted for Trump, this was the expected outcome.

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But Harris would have been so much better, right?

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Both were ****ty choices. People voting for free stuff (housing bailouts, covid, welfare, medicare/medicaid) and less responsibility is the driver. Trump and Harris are giving voters what they want.

I suspect many posters on this board would have been better than both.

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Not really.

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Are people really hurting or just complaining? Because I see much more of the latter than the former.

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Definitely more the latter, only because the hurting hasn't set in yet. What has everyone *****ing about this is that it was entirely avoidable.

Fire up the printers, print everyone a billion dollars. For far to long, the powers to be have put duct tape and band aids on the financial institutions of this country. Enough is enough. I say unleash the diesel fuel, strike the match and let the whole damn financial system burn. Lets party like its 1929.

tysker said:

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infinity ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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That's an ugly picture. It shows what we know happened with the big Bidenflation that spiked in 2022 and 2023. Then it eased and wages gradually made up to recover some of the lost ground. But this latest inflation spike threatens to turn it upside down again. I hope not. I'm about to retire and have three sons in their mid 30's who are getting off to a good start in life. None of us want to be derailed by the inflation monster.

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Sorry for the bad news, but if you voted for Trump, this was the expected outcome.

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Lol, I did vote for Trump and don't regret it.

But to be clear, he advertised that "Chyna" would pay for the tariffs, not the American consumer.

And then of course, it shifted to Wal-Mart and others would pay for it when it became clear that China wouldn't.

And then when that fizzled, he claimed the benefits of tariffs would offset any negative impacts.

... with these latest inflation numbers, I'm not so sure that a majority of Americans will agree with him in the midterms.

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I see that a lot here. Some posters think that just because someone voted for Trump, they are 100% his cheerleader and don't have the right to complain. about Trump

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Posters here tried to educate and inform others that tariffs and increased spending were a long-term negative and would not accomplish the stated goals, yet so many people are just too thick-skulled.

The laws of supply and demand don't care about your political affiliations

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Laws of supply and demand work under certain conditions and pre-requisites. When the other side does not abide, we should not either.
Everyone tariffs us. Why shouldn't we tariff them back? When they take it off, we can do it so and let there be free markets.

Darthag11 said:

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Doom and gloom on here, yet restaurants full, sporting events still well attended, WC tickets in USA sold out......

What gives?

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But all on debt. So does not count.

Talk to those people and find out how many are debt-free?

I am completely debt free since 2018 and am proud of it and commend those are are as well.

infinity ag said:

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tysker said:

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infinity ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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That's an ugly picture. It shows what we know happened with the big Bidenflation that spiked in 2022 and 2023. Then it eased and wages gradually made up to recover some of the lost ground. But this latest inflation spike threatens to turn it upside down again. I hope not. I'm about to retire and have three sons in their mid 30's who are getting off to a good start in life. None of us want to be derailed by the inflation monster.

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Sorry for the bad news, but if you voted for Trump, this was the expected outcome.

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Lol, I did vote for Trump and don't regret it.

But to be clear, he advertised that "Chyna" would pay for the tariffs, not the American consumer.

And then of course, it shifted to Wal-Mart and others would pay for it when it became clear that China wouldn't.

And then when that fizzled, he claimed the benefits of tariffs would offset any negative impacts.

... with these latest inflation numbers, I'm not so sure that a majority of Americans will agree with him in the midterms.

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I see that a lot here. Some posters think that just because someone voted for Trump, they are 100% his cheerleader and don't have the right to complain. about Trump

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Posters here tried to educate and inform others that tariffs and increased spending were a long-term negative and would not accomplish the stated goals, yet so many people are just too thick-skulled.

The laws of supply and demand don't care about your political affiliations

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Laws of supply and demand work under certain conditions and pre-requisites. When the other side does not abide, we should not either.
Everyone tariffs us. Why shouldn't we tariff them back? When they take it off, we can do it so and let there be free markets.

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Because, as has been proven over and over again, like all taxes tariffs make prices go up for Americans. Why do we give a **** what liberal policies other countries are putting into place? Especially when anyone paying attention knew his haphazard way of implementing them was never going to get past the courts.

So everything is more expensive now, but hey at least we evened up our trade deficit with Lesotho or whatever other random countries were on Trump's stupid liberation day 2x3 signs.

And I also say this as someone that's perfectly fine paying $4 for gas temporarily if it means Iran never gets a nuke. The tariffs are another story.

MouthBQ98 said:

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The Israel problem is over now. With all their enemies devastated and Iran being crushed down, and with Israel having made key regional alliances or at least treaties or accords, we in the US won't be required to deal so closely with them, nor they with us, in order for us to have the regional stability we prefer for our own economic interests long term.

Old business is being settled so the United States can move on to dealing more directly with our Cold War with China from a better strategic position.

Israel was a tool for our own regional policy to manipulate China at least as much as we have been a tool for their regional security.

Noe it may be nearing to to just END Iran as a regional threat by taking away its energy revenues more permanently. If they are too poor, they csnt afford to support a nuclear program. Not one we can't easily interrupt at need. We can then focus on making more oil available from elsewhere in regions not populated by death cultists.

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My fear is the the government passion for spending money and the passion of those who sell stuff to the government will keep us spending like drunken sailors.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Because, as has been proven over and over again, like all taxes tariffs make prices go up for Americans. Why do we give a **** what liberal policies other countries are putting into place? Especially when anyone paying attention knew his haphazard way of implementing them was never going to get past the courts.

So everything is more expensive now, but hey at least we evened up our trade deficit with Lesotho or whatever other random countries were on Trump's stupid liberation day 2x3 signs.

And I also say this as someone that's perfectly fine paying $4 for gas temporarily if it means Iran never gets a nuke. The tariffs are another story.

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How much are tariffs impacting your everyday life?

one safe place said:

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My fear is the the government passion for spending money and the passion of those who sell stuff to the government will keep us spending like drunken sailors.

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If you cannot beat em, join em. Government pays well but very very very very slow. Like slow slow.

flown-the-coop said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Because, as has been proven over and over again, like all taxes tariffs make prices go up for Americans. Why do we give a **** what liberal policies other countries are putting into place? Especially when anyone paying attention knew his haphazard way of implementing them was never going to get past the courts.

So everything is more expensive now, but hey at least we evened up our trade deficit with Lesotho or whatever other random countries were on Trump's stupid liberation day 2x3 signs.

And I also say this as someone that's perfectly fine paying $4 for gas temporarily if it means Iran never gets a nuke. The tariffs are another story.

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How much are tariffs impacting your everyday life?

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I'm lucky enough that they're generally not. That's not the case with a lot of Americans, both those who work in industries impacted by them and the much higher number who are having to deal with increased prices of goods due to them. How much were other countries' tariffs and trade imbalances impacting your everyday life?

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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infinity ag said:

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tysker said:

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infinity ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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That's an ugly picture. It shows what we know happened with the big Bidenflation that spiked in 2022 and 2023. Then it eased and wages gradually made up to recover some of the lost ground. But this latest inflation spike threatens to turn it upside down again. I hope not. I'm about to retire and have three sons in their mid 30's who are getting off to a good start in life. None of us want to be derailed by the inflation monster.

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Sorry for the bad news, but if you voted for Trump, this was the expected outcome.

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Lol, I did vote for Trump and don't regret it.

But to be clear, he advertised that "Chyna" would pay for the tariffs, not the American consumer.

And then of course, it shifted to Wal-Mart and others would pay for it when it became clear that China wouldn't.

And then when that fizzled, he claimed the benefits of tariffs would offset any negative impacts.

... with these latest inflation numbers, I'm not so sure that a majority of Americans will agree with him in the midterms.

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I see that a lot here. Some posters think that just because someone voted for Trump, they are 100% his cheerleader and don't have the right to complain. about Trump

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Posters here tried to educate and inform others that tariffs and increased spending were a long-term negative and would not accomplish the stated goals, yet so many people are just too thick-skulled.

The laws of supply and demand don't care about your political affiliations

---

Laws of supply and demand work under certain conditions and pre-requisites. When the other side does not abide, we should not either.
Everyone tariffs us. Why shouldn't we tariff them back? When they take it off, we can do it so and let there be free markets.

---

Because, as has been proven over and over again, like all taxes tariffs make prices go up for Americans. Why do we give a **** what liberal policies other countries are putting into place? Especially when anyone paying attention knew his haphazard way of implementing them was never going to get past the courts.

So everything is more expensive now, but hey at least we evened up our trade deficit with Lesotho or whatever other random countries were on Trump's stupid liberation day 2x3 signs.

And I also say this as someone that's perfectly fine paying $4 for gas temporarily if it means Iran never gets a nuke. The tariffs are another story.

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I'd argue the other way.

Everything was artificially cheaper all this while. We got used to it and spent money like drunken sailors instead of paying down debt.

Now we are seeing "real" prices and are losing our sheet.

No one owes you $1 or $2 gas. You pay what the market charges or go to wherever it is cheaper (like Sudan maybe).

infinity ag said:

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Darthag11 said:

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Doom and gloom on here, yet restaurants full, sporting events still well attended, WC tickets in USA sold out......

What gives?

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But all on debt. So does not count.

Talk to those people and find out how many are debt-free?

I am completely debt free since 2018 and am proud of it and commend those are are as well.

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Being debt free is a beautiful thing. It makes things like increased prices more of a "oh, okay, I guess i have less money. Meh" instead of for others more of a "okay, what doesn't get paid this month" thing.

Sucks to be them, especially when the only thing that changed in their lives is what happened in the world of politics and nothing they did to cause their situation.

infinity ag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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infinity ag said:

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tysker said:

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infinity ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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That's an ugly picture. It shows what we know happened with the big Bidenflation that spiked in 2022 and 2023. Then it eased and wages gradually made up to recover some of the lost ground. But this latest inflation spike threatens to turn it upside down again. I hope not. I'm about to retire and have three sons in their mid 30's who are getting off to a good start in life. None of us want to be derailed by the inflation monster.

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Sorry for the bad news, but if you voted for Trump, this was the expected outcome.

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Lol, I did vote for Trump and don't regret it.

But to be clear, he advertised that "Chyna" would pay for the tariffs, not the American consumer.

And then of course, it shifted to Wal-Mart and others would pay for it when it became clear that China wouldn't.

And then when that fizzled, he claimed the benefits of tariffs would offset any negative impacts.

... with these latest inflation numbers, I'm not so sure that a majority of Americans will agree with him in the midterms.

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I see that a lot here. Some posters think that just because someone voted for Trump, they are 100% his cheerleader and don't have the right to complain. about Trump

---

Posters here tried to educate and inform others that tariffs and increased spending were a long-term negative and would not accomplish the stated goals, yet so many people are just too thick-skulled.

The laws of supply and demand don't care about your political affiliations

---

Laws of supply and demand work under certain conditions and pre-requisites. When the other side does not abide, we should not either.
Everyone tariffs us. Why shouldn't we tariff them back? When they take it off, we can do it so and let there be free markets.

---

Because, as has been proven over and over again, like all taxes tariffs make prices go up for Americans. Why do we give a **** what liberal policies other countries are putting into place? Especially when anyone paying attention knew his haphazard way of implementing them was never going to get past the courts.

So everything is more expensive now, but hey at least we evened up our trade deficit with Lesotho or whatever other random countries were on Trump's stupid liberation day 2x3 signs.

And I also say this as someone that's perfectly fine paying $4 for gas temporarily if it means Iran never gets a nuke. The tariffs are another story.

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I'd argue the other way.

Everything was artificially cheaper all this while. We got used to it and spent money like drunken sailors instead of paying down debt.

Now we are seeing "real" prices and are losing our sheet.

No one owes you $1 or $2 gas. You pay what the market charges or go to wherever it is cheaper (like Sudan maybe).

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Except in the case of tariffs "the market" isn't able to set the correct prices because the government is getting in the way and inserting an unnecessary corporate tax.

If your argument is that tariffs will help pay down our debt that's fine, but because we (aka both sides of the government) are still spending like drunken sailors, whatever tariff revenue is left will be like pouring a cup of water on a house fire. We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Maybe Vance or Rubio will finally attempt to tackle it.

No Spin Ag said:

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infinity ag said:

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Darthag11 said:

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Doom and gloom on here, yet restaurants full, sporting events still well attended, WC tickets in USA sold out......

What gives?

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But all on debt. So does not count.

Talk to those people and find out how many are debt-free?

I am completely debt free since 2018 and am proud of it and commend those are are as well.

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Being debt free is a beautiful thing. It makes things like increased prices more of a "oh, okay, I guess i have less money. Meh" instead of for others more of a "okay, what doesn't get paid this month" thing.

Sucks to be them, especially when the only thing that changed in their lives is what happened in the world of politics and nothing they did to cause their situation.

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I haven't had any debt for years. These prices suck.

It's killing my industry. Prices have gotten insane. Customers are putting off projects. One large one flat out refused to pay the last invoice because they didn't have the money. We're holding on but I'm not sure all of our suppliers will be able to. I know some of our competitors (judging by their bids) are screwed. A lot of good people who really grinded to make it all happen during 2008, and Covid are really struggling, but at least Trump is funny and we're getting cool stuff in D.C.

docb said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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infinity ag said:

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Darthag11 said:

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Doom and gloom on here, yet restaurants full, sporting events still well attended, WC tickets in USA sold out......

What gives?

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But all on debt. So does not count.

Talk to those people and find out how many are debt-free?

I am completely debt free since 2018 and am proud of it and commend those are are as well.

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Being debt free is a beautiful thing. It makes things like increased prices more of a "oh, okay, I guess i have less money. Meh" instead of for others more of a "okay, what doesn't get paid this month" thing.

Sucks to be them, especially when the only thing that changed in their lives is what happened in the world of politics and nothing they did to cause their situation.

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I haven't had any debt for years. These prices suck.

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I am on the same page as you on this.

Pisses me off when a decent burger from a decent place costs something like $17+. Plus tax. Plus tip. WTF man....
I don't do delivery through Uber as I am not a lazy fatass, but that would mean 30% on top of that.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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infinity ag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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infinity ag said:

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tysker said:

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infinity ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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That's an ugly picture. It shows what we know happened with the big Bidenflation that spiked in 2022 and 2023. Then it eased and wages gradually made up to recover some of the lost ground. But this latest inflation spike threatens to turn it upside down again. I hope not. I'm about to retire and have three sons in their mid 30's who are getting off to a good start in life. None of us want to be derailed by the inflation monster.

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Sorry for the bad news, but if you voted for Trump, this was the expected outcome.

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Lol, I did vote for Trump and don't regret it.

But to be clear, he advertised that "Chyna" would pay for the tariffs, not the American consumer.

And then of course, it shifted to Wal-Mart and others would pay for it when it became clear that China wouldn't.

And then when that fizzled, he claimed the benefits of tariffs would offset any negative impacts.

... with these latest inflation numbers, I'm not so sure that a majority of Americans will agree with him in the midterms.

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I see that a lot here. Some posters think that just because someone voted for Trump, they are 100% his cheerleader and don't have the right to complain. about Trump

---

Posters here tried to educate and inform others that tariffs and increased spending were a long-term negative and would not accomplish the stated goals, yet so many people are just too thick-skulled.

The laws of supply and demand don't care about your political affiliations

---

Laws of supply and demand work under certain conditions and pre-requisites. When the other side does not abide, we should not either.
Everyone tariffs us. Why shouldn't we tariff them back? When they take it off, we can do it so and let there be free markets.

---

Because, as has been proven over and over again, like all taxes tariffs make prices go up for Americans. Why do we give a **** what liberal policies other countries are putting into place? Especially when anyone paying attention knew his haphazard way of implementing them was never going to get past the courts.

So everything is more expensive now, but hey at least we evened up our trade deficit with Lesotho or whatever other random countries were on Trump's stupid liberation day 2x3 signs.

And I also say this as someone that's perfectly fine paying $4 for gas temporarily if it means Iran never gets a nuke. The tariffs are another story.

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I'd argue the other way.

Everything was artificially cheaper all this while. We got used to it and spent money like drunken sailors instead of paying down debt.

Now we are seeing "real" prices and are losing our sheet.

No one owes you $1 or $2 gas. You pay what the market charges or go to wherever it is cheaper (like Sudan maybe).

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Except in the case of tariffs "the market" isn't able to set the correct prices because the government is getting in the way and inserting an unnecessary corporate tax.

If your argument is that tariffs will help pay down our debt that's fine, but because we (aka both sides of the government) are still spending like drunken sailors, whatever tariff revenue is left will be like pouring a cup of water on a house fire. We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Maybe Vance or Rubio will finally attempt to tackle it.

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Well, there is a lot the Government needs to do to reduce the abuse and corruption that large corps are indulging in. It all factors in in many ways.

I am with you that we need to cut spending DRASTICALLY.

I can see DJT truly not caring about peoples financial situation,especially seeing his numbers on all major categories.

We all knew this Iran war would cause inflation. No surprise here. Question is whether this is a short blip or something longer. Depending on which analyst you believe, Trump has ~3-6 weeks to sign a decent deal with Iran that ends the conflict and reopens the strait. If he goes much past that, countries will begin to run out of various safety stocks, which will impact food, energy, anything that relies on energy, and a ton of other random crap (for example, roughly a third of the world's helium, which is used for MRIs, flows through the strait). Inflation will climb, world production will tank, random poor countries will have food shortages, grandma won't get an MRI to catch her cancer early, and the mid terms will be a historic disaster for the Republicans. Don't listen to people saying this is about a small sacrifice in creature comforts. The domino effects around the world are FAR larger than 1 fewer latte a week.

It's rough, but that's why nobody seriously attacked Iran before we did; Their ability to immediately close off such a huge chunk of the economy gives them an enormous amount of leverage. Trump knew the risks and took them anyway.

I still believe there's still a viable path to sticking the landing and hope he does so. But if he doesn't, there will be no sugar coating the complete FUBAR that follows.

Burpelson said:

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I can see DJT truly not caring about peoples financial situation,especially seeing his numbers on all major categories.

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Is this what you were quoting?

Trump on Iran: 'I Don't Think About American Financial Situation'

infinity ag said:

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Burpelson said:

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I can see DJT truly not caring about peoples financial situation,especially seeing his numbers on all major categories.

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Is this what you were quoting?

Trump on Iran: 'I Don't Think About American Financial Situation'

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Okay, but he also said he doesn't think about anyone or anybody, so, like, there's that.

If it comes to that, the world will reign hellfire down on Iran. It'll be a pile of ashes. The onus is not on Trump imo.

I agree and think that's the way out of this. Iran has leverage but that leverage has an expiration date. If they have any sense they'll make a deal before it evaporates 6-8 weeks from now.

The World Cup is not close to sold out. Artists are canceling full tours over not being able to sell tickets.

Every single day and they're impacting yours as well. I work in the medical industry, we passed down tariffs on everything we sell. You're paying for it when you go to CVS for a band aid, go to the hospital and with your insurance premiums. You're willfully obtuse if you don't think they're impacting your daily life.

He's a good for you that nobody is talking about, nitrile exam gloves that are used in every single medical facility. They're made with butadiene, which is sourced from the ME. The major distributors have less than a two months supply on hand today, some less than a month. The medical industry absolutely flies through them.

Supply chain interruptions due to SoH being closed is music to my orange glowing ears.

Biden had 4 years post covid to reduce our dependencies on foreign supply chains. Whilst he did rehome several millions from those countries he didn't bring the manufacturing with tbem.

Huge miss by border czar Kamala. Here we are seeing over and over again on why we have to onshore key supply chains and on the flip, and this is a major part of Trumps strategy with China, make foreign powers reliant on the United States.

So people may have to wash their hands more if we run out of gloves.

MemphisAg1 said:

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While $100 oil grabs the headline, there's some deeper color that doesn't bode well, with services inflation at its highest in four years. Some indication that tariff impacts continue to gain traction. If this trend holds it won't be good for Trump and the R's. Some people can look past a temporary spike in oil due to a military conflict, but lingering inflation caused by deliberate executive action won't get a free pass. Curious to see if this is a one-time spike or becomes embedded in a deeper trend in the coming months.

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The services index accelerated 1.2%, the biggest monthly gain since March 2022. Two-thirds of the move was attributed to a 2.7% rise in trade services, a sign that tariff costs could be starting to have a larger impact on prices. The move also was buttressed by a 3.5% jump in margins for machinery and equipment wholesaling.

"Inflation is sticky and accelerating. The core reading confirms a deeper structural trend, especially in services," said David Russell, global head of market strategy at TradeStation. "The Hormuz crisis is aggravating the problem, but this goes way beyond oil."

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Sure most services have a physical component, but services is the last place I would expect tariffs on physical goods to be felt. And, tbh, The increasing price of memory/computers etc. would be the primary input for many white collar services - which comes from the AI boom - not tariffs.

BTW, I have always said tariffs are a mistake with one silver lining - everyone pays them as opposed to the top 10%-20%.