Pacifico said:
I'm fine with it. We have to somehow find a way to work with these brainwashed people.
No, we don't
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No, we don't
Almost impossible to prove but if anyone is honest they have to admit how HIGHLY unlikely it was for biden to win that election. He was a mumbling dolt who barely campaigned. Trump had tens of thousands of people coming to his rallies. It was all manipulation and outright cheating. The dems have mastered them. That's why the Save America Act is so dangerous to them. Why it is to the GOP is still a mystery to me. Why wouldn't Thune just move it forward?
ts5641 said:
Almost impossible to prove but if anyone is honest they have to admit how HIGHLY unlikely it was for biden to win that election. He was a mumbling dolt who barely campaigned. Trump had tens of thousands of people coming to his rallies. It was all manipulation and outright cheating. The dems have mastered them. That's why the Save America Act is so dangerous to them. Why it is to the GOP is still a mystery to me. Why wouldn't Thune just move it forward?
Most likely they both have their manipulation programs in place, and have spent massive time, effort and resources to build out. Neither party trusts each other and the integrity of the system and therefore is unwilling to easily give up their sway on the system.
richardag said:chilimuybueno said:
For communists the end justifies the means. I learned that in the 4th or 5th grade in a World History class I believe. One needs to understand the enemy's mindset if one is to defeat them.note:
- The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results.
Saul AlinskySaul Alinsky
- A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism.
This "final stage" has never been achieved, it always stops at the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Why you may ask, Saul Alinsky also unknowingly predicted this demise without realizing it, oh the irony.
- It is a world not of angels but of angles, where men speak of moral principles but act on power principles; a world where we are always moral and our enemies always immoral.
Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals," should be read by all Conservatives/Republicans!
It should also be required reading for High School Seniors.......but, it isn't, because liberals run our public school systems and wouldn't want the truth to be known.
The two most dangerous domestic terrorists groups in the USA are the modern democrat party and the main stream media.
Class of ‘73
F-16 FWS
Class of ‘73
F-16 FWS
You can buy it at the gift shop in Obamas garbage can inspired library.
aggiehawg said:Prosperdick said:unmade bed said:
Crazy how democrats were able to so easily steal the 2020 election with Trump in charge of the federal government/justice department but then after taking control of the federal government for four years they were unable to pull it off a second time.
Running a monumentally awful candidate certainly helped Trump. It became "too big to rig." Not surprised leftists can't understand it, there's very little they do understand.
I really think there was some concern that Biden was too close to physical collapse and this time they didn't have covid as an excuse to hide him in the basement. Nor do I think either Obama nor Pelosi wanted Kamala to slide into the nomination that quickly. But they were forced to accept it given the time restraints.
But even Obama and Pelosi never imagined she wold take so much time off of the trail and be awful when she was on it. Naming the buffoon, Tim Walz as her running mate didn't help either. No one vetted the guy and he was loony tunes. (Still is.)
Confirmed when she publicly admitted that she woke up one morning and decided on a whim to pick Walz as her running mate.
I heart Holman Jenkins. That is a great read for those who can access it.
Todd Blanche on Maria's show this morning.
LINK
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Todd Blanche: Well, there's a ton of evidence that the election was rigged. That's not something the DOJ needs to tell you about. There's been evidence about that for many, many years. What I can tell you is that we have multiple investigations going on in Arizona and in Georgia, in Fulton County, Georgia. And that's exactly what we're looking at. By the way, this is very difficult because they're very good, they're very good at hiding misconduct and hiding what they're doing. And so that's why we're very focused on finding out whether the right people voted, whether they were supposed to vote voted, or if there was one cast per voter. That is what we are doing in multiple states, and I expect...
And again you'll say to me: 'How long has it taken? Why is this taking so long?' The reality of the answer to that is it takes a lot of work to uncover what happened in 2020. A lot of good old-fashioned law enforcement police work, which is what we're doing. And we have great prosecutors working on it as well.
And I expect that, and I assure you, I assure the American people that as soon as we have something to say for it, whether it's charges, whether it's a report or results of an investigation, the American people will learn about what was uncovered.
LINK
"many, many years"Quote:
Todd Blanche: "Well, there's a ton of evidence that the election was rigged. That's not something the DOJ needs to tell you about. There's been evidence about that for many, many years."
He failed to mention it has all already been investigated, reviewed, and dismissed by state and federal government election experts, officials, and prosecuting attorneys many, many times.
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Later in the interview, Bartiromo followed up by asking, "Do you believe there will be, at some point, a definitive answer to whether or not the 2020 election was stolen?"
Not a very confident-sounding statement from Blanche. But he and election conspiracy kook Kurt Olsen have to produce something for Trump. At a minimum they'll have to give Trump a printed report containing dubious claims and vague statements that Trump can wave at reporters and MAGA supporters and make the false claim "this proves the election was stolen."Quote:
Blanche: "I'm not going to promise there's going to be a definitive answer. That wouldn't be fair to you or anybody else, but we are looking at it and we're hoping to get one."
DeschutesAg said:Quote:
Todd Blanche: "Well, there's a ton of evidence that the election was rigged. That's not something the DOJ needs to tell you about. There's been evidence about that for many, many years."
"many, many years"
He failed to mention it has all already been investigated, reviewed, and dismissed by state and federal government election experts, officials, and prosecuting attorneys many, many times.
Lie.Quote:
Later in the interview, Bartiromo followed up by asking, "Do you believe there will be, at some point, a definitive answer to whether or not the 2020 election was stolen?"Quote:
Blanche: "I'm not going to promise there's going to be a definitive answer. That wouldn't be fair to you or anybody else, but we are looking at it and we're hoping to get one."
Not a very confident-sounding statement from Blanche. But he and election conspiracy kook Kurt Olsen have to produce something for Trump. At a minimum they'll have to give Trump a printed report containing dubious claims and vague statements that Trump can wave at reporters and MAGA supporters and make the false claim "this proves the election was stolen."
Another lie.
I understand you know absolutely squat about the 2020 election. But your ignorance does not make for any convincing counter-argument. You simply don't have any true facts.
4 said:Pacifico said:
I'm fine with it. We have to somehow find a way to work with these brainwashed people.
No, we don't
What's the alternative?
Pacifico said:4 said:Pacifico said:
I'm fine with it. We have to somehow find a way to work with these brainwashed people.
No, we don't
What's the alternative?
It used to be win BIG enough that the cheat wouldn't work in the long run. But then from Obama on Dem efforts became micro-targeted for certain counties in certain states. Much harder to detect.
Just to amuse myself, I have over the last two days watching election night reactions on major lib networks for 2016, 2020 and 2024.
Clear that the internal and public polling was so off of the mark in 2016. The cheat machine was in place but they didn't think they needed it.She was sooo ahead.
2020 was DefCon 5, so they called it all in .complete with a rent-a-thigs for violence that was called offf in 202 by FNC's bogus call in AZ.
I consider 2020 proven.
What if this DDoS attack saved 2024?
What if this DDoS attack saved 2024?
🚨 BIG: Our U.S. DOD Destroyed Dominion's Serbia Data Center
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) May 28, 2026
It has long been a mystery as to exactly WHO staged the cyber attack that melted the Dominion/Huawei/CCP data center programmed to rig the 2024 election for Kamala Harris to 'win' just a few days before election.
"The… https://t.co/asSSYvBC3i
ts5641 said:
Almost impossible to prove but if anyone is honest they have to admit how HIGHLY unlikely it was for biden to win that election. He was a mumbling dolt who barely campaigned. Trump had tens of thousands of people coming to his rallies. It was all manipulation and outright cheating. The dems have mastered them. That's why the Save America Act is so dangerous to them. Why it is to the GOP is still a mystery to me. Why wouldn't Thune just move it forward?
Because Republicans vs Democrats is a smokescreen. Thune, Cornyn, McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, Clintons, Bushs, Obamas, etc are all on the same team.
yes! they are all progressives and believe in the ideas of Woodrow Wilson's professional ruling class keeping us plebes in line.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
Even more troubling to me is the FACT that the politically weaponized FBI and intelligence community openly engaged in outright election interference/tampering in favor of their preferred brain dead puppet candidate.
Not sure why there wasn't more public outrage over this. We expect liberal slimeballs with boots on the ground to cheat, but that was truly unprecedented and deeply troubling. Trump and Co and every conservative mouthpiece should have harped on this relentlessly. Most of the public doesn't even know it happened.
Not sure why there wasn't more public outrage over this. We expect liberal slimeballs with boots on the ground to cheat, but that was truly unprecedented and deeply troubling. Trump and Co and every conservative mouthpiece should have harped on this relentlessly. Most of the public doesn't even know it happened.
aggiehawg said:Quote:
Reality: Millions more Americans chose to vote for Trump than Harris. The same thing happened in 2020 when millions more Americans voted for Biden.
Where did Biden's 81 million go? Trump improved his numbers between 2020 and 2024. Kamala lost votes from Biden's numbers in 2020. Were those Biden voters real?
No, his numbers were inflated.
They were either fake, or they were all racist, misogynists, that refused to show up and vote for Obama, Hillary and Kamala.
AI is a wonderful tool for misinformation.TexAgs91 said:
So if the video is true, and it looks pretty convincing, what would it take to pull this off and who is able to do it?
Significant findings from the NEW 799-page DOMINION documents and the STOLEN 2020 Election.
— The SCIF (@TheSCIF) June 24, 2026
Ballots Exceed Voters in 3 Decisive States in the 2020 Election.
Michigan: 499,850 more ballots than voters.
Margin: 154,188.
Pennsylvania: 155,053 more ballots than voters Margin:… pic.twitter.com/OOWhZIZLdY
I don't think this should ever be 'let go.' It will happen again, and again unless/until people pay the price for it.
No offense intended, but if the Deep State is real and if it is actually controlling and fixing U.S. elections, then it would be done from off-the-books DoD and natsec agency data centers and op centers located here in the lower 48 states. Ditto for Dominion. If Dominion equipment is part of the scheme, then Dominion ownership is hidden by impermeable layers of shell company filings that ultimately lead to a dead end because it is owned back by the US federal government.nortex97 said:
I consider 2020 proven.
What if this DDoS attack saved 2024?🚨 BIG: Our U.S. DOD Destroyed Dominion's Serbia Data Center
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) May 28, 2026
It has long been a mystery as to exactly WHO staged the cyber attack that melted the Dominion/Huawei/CCP data center programmed to rig the 2024 election for Kamala Harris to 'win' just a few days before election.
"The… https://t.co/asSSYvBC3i
Yep. Anyone with the brain knows it was stolen. But it worked out in the long run when he came back. But it's still infuriating. And what we just saw in California is just more of the same. ****ing dirty cheaters.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
I don't understand your point, sorry.
DeschutesAg said:nortex97 said:
I consider 2020 proven.
What if this DDoS attack saved 2024?🚨 BIG: Our U.S. DOD Destroyed Dominion's Serbia Data Center
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) May 28, 2026
It has long been a mystery as to exactly WHO staged the cyber attack that melted the Dominion/Huawei/CCP data center programmed to rig the 2024 election for Kamala Harris to 'win' just a few days before election.
"The… https://t.co/asSSYvBC3i
No offense intended, but if the Deep State is real and if it is actually controlling and fixing U.S. elections, then it would be done from off-the-books DoD and natsec agency data centers and op centers located here in the lower 48 states. Ditto for Dominion. If Dominion equipment is part of the scheme, then Dominion ownership is hidden by impermeable layers of shell company filings that ultimately lead to a dead end because it is owned back by the US federal government.
Why do we use voting machines in the first place?
Third world countries (who also, i might add, require proof of citizenship to vote) count millions of paper ballots in a matter of hours.
Okay, so we have more votes to count, so it must be efficiency. India counted 640M votes in a single day using voting machines, then why does it take California (recently) and others (in 2020) weeks to count them? They are still at 2500 outstanding votes for the mayoral election in LA 3 weeks ago!
We put several men on the moon in the 60's and 70's and suddenly dont know how to count?
When democrats fight hand over fist to prevent any safeguards to protect citizens right to vote (and in some cases make it illegal for election workers to even ask for ID in the first place, actively working against the system), they choose to run their elections like American Idol, and drag out counts for several weeks before being able to certify, there's only one conclusion a rational person can end up at. I still have high hopes that you will end up there one day.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
The point was obvious. There was no Deep State Serbian data center.nortex97 said:
I don't understand your point, sorry.
DeschutesAg said:nortex97 said:
I don't understand your point, sorry.
The point was obvious. There was no Deep State Serbian data center.
Oh ok, sure. That didn't take so many words. I don't know what facts you are asserting but there was a Serbian data center Dominion was using, and a reason Dems were so mad/up in arms about Venezuela when Maduro was arrested.
🔥BOMBSHELL VIDEO. ELON MUSK MIGHT HAVE SAVED THE 2024 ELECTION FROM BEING STOLEN.
— Johnny St.Pete (@JohnMcCloy) November 30, 2025
@bennyjohnson tells the story of how MUSK knew that they would win the election and it appears is because they IDENTIFIED the overseas systems & machines that were going to perpetrate what we… pic.twitter.com/rm7RC8kA9b
But I really don't care if you disagree with any of that.
I'm skeptical. For good reasons.nortex97 said:
Oh ok, sure. That didn't take so many words. I don't know what facts you are asserting but there was a Serbian data center Dominion was using, and a reason Dems were so mad/up in arms about Venezuela when Maduro was arrested.🔥BOMBSHELL VIDEO. ELON MUSK MIGHT HAVE SAVED THE 2024 ELECTION FROM BEING STOLEN.
— Johnny St.Pete (@JohnMcCloy) November 30, 2025
@bennyjohnson tells the story of how MUSK knew that they would win the election and it appears is because they IDENTIFIED the overseas systems & machines that were going to perpetrate what we… pic.twitter.com/rm7RC8kA9b
But I really don't care if you disagree with any of that.
In 2020/21, we all saw people like Jack Posobiec, Steve Bannon, Benny Johnson, Laura Loomer, Roger Stone, Mike Lindell the Pillow Guy, Sydney Powell the Kraken Lady, Patrick Byrne, Ivan Raiklen, Lara Logan, Lin Wood, Rudy G, Liz Wheeler, Emerald Robinson, Mike Flynn, Mark Levin, NewsMax, our own Louie Gohmert, and a host of other rightwing conspiracy purveyors make a lot of incredible stolen election claims -- including one that said the Deep State used German data servers, Venezuelan software, and Italian spy satellites to steal the 2020 election.
None of the above people ever showed any proof or evidence. They had none.
Equally remarkable: the people who believed their claims, people like you, never asked to see any evidence.
Now some of the same rightwing conspiracy pundits who pushed the 2020 stuff are saying the 2024 election was "almost stolen" by Venezuelan software and Serbian data servers.
Have they shown any evidence?
No.
Democrat operative caught on hidden camera admitting how they rigged the 2020 Georgia election, stuffed ballots, lied and kicked out poll watchers from the State Farm Arena, pulled out hidden suitcases of ballots, and ran the same stacks throughout the night until Biden cleared… pic.twitter.com/5WweNrDpDh
— The SCIF (@TheSCIF) June 27, 2026
DeschutesAg said:nortex97 said:
Oh ok, sure. That didn't take so many words. I don't know what facts you are asserting but there was a Serbian data center Dominion was using, and a reason Dems were so mad/up in arms about Venezuela when Maduro was arrested.🔥BOMBSHELL VIDEO. ELON MUSK MIGHT HAVE SAVED THE 2024 ELECTION FROM BEING STOLEN.
— Johnny St.Pete (@JohnMcCloy) November 30, 2025
@bennyjohnson tells the story of how MUSK knew that they would win the election and it appears is because they IDENTIFIED the overseas systems & machines that were going to perpetrate what we… pic.twitter.com/rm7RC8kA9b
But I really don't care if you disagree with any of that.
I'm skeptical. For good reasons.
In 2020/21, we all saw people like Jack Posobiec, Steve Bannon, Benny Johnson, Laura Loomer, Roger Stone, Mike Lindell the Pillow Guy, Sydney Powell the Kraken Lady, Patrick Byrne, Ivan Raiklen, Lara Logan, Lin Wood, Rudy G, Liz Wheeler, Emerald Robinson, Mike Flynn, Mark Levin, NewsMax, our own Louie Gohmert, and a host of other rightwing conspiracy purveyors make a lot of incredible stolen election claims -- including one that said the Deep State used German data servers, Venezuelan software, and Italian spy satellites to steal the 2020 election.
None of the above people ever showed any proof or evidence. They had none.
Equally remarkable: the people who believed their claims, people like you, never asked to see any evidence.
Now some of the same rightwing conspiracy pundits who pushed the 2020 stuff are saying the 2024 election was "almost stolen" by Venezuelan software and Serbian data servers.
Have they shown any evidence?
No.
What would it take - at a minimum - to be evidence enough for you that serious irregularities occurred?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Ghost91 said:Keyno said:
I WAS the number 1 opponent of the 2020 election mass fraud (back when I supported Trump). It was conducted by "mail in ballots". It happened, no one was punished. Trump (who is the literal President), is not investigating. No one will be punished for it and nothing will happen. Let me say this again- TRUMP and the GOP are CURRENTLY IN POWER and nothing will happen.
Can't give this post enough blue stars. I voted for a hard reset and I'm not getting it.
You do realize that our justice system is slow and methodical and procedural. It does nothing fast, and there is only ONE chance to prosecute and try an individual for a crime. Haste results in failures and there is no second chance. Evidence must be found and collected. Witnesses identified and a case be built. One that is sufficient for that one and only attempt conviction.
Reckless haste for immediate gratification is foolish. Doing nothing at all would also be foolish. Keep in mind here that almost ALL the political criminals that were engaged in this are lawyers or career bureaucrats. They are extremely experienced in playing in great areas, being legally slippery, exploiting technicality and loopholes, using weasel words. Pinning an explicit violation of law on them is not easy. The next best thing to a successful prosecution is the pressure of an ongoing investigation, when the prosecution itself is uncertain.
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The same thing happened in 2020 when millions more Americans voted for Biden
Millions more votes were counted for Biden doesn't equate to millions more Americans voted for Biden.
HTH
Most likely it was a LOT of Ballot harvesting, but in most places it was done it is at least somewhat legal or there is no adequate tracking and enforcement mechanism to detect and prevent it or handle it after the fact. Our legal process is broken with regards to election fraud. If you file suit ahead of time the case gets dismissed for no standing or no harm done yet. If you file afterwards then they dismiss it in the grounds that it is now beyond statute limitations or it would do too great of harm to the election process, or whatever. The Fems have known this and exploited maximum harvesting, both legally and where illegal, in manners that would not be traceable or verifiable, such as bribing the homeless and collecting their ballots at a shelter mailbox or gathering ballots at a nursing home or drug treatment center or whatever, and also postal shenanigans.
DeschutesAg said:aggiehawg said:unmade bed said:
Crazy how democrats were able to so easily steal the 2020 election with Trump in charge of the federal government/justice department but then after taking control of the federal government for four years they were unable to pull it off a second time.
Many states withdrew from ERIC and retook controls over their voter rolls, first off. That meant the number of mail in ballots that were sent out was much less. That took a lot of the drop box fraudulent vote away. Republicans had a much better organized not only GOTV (Thanks Scott Pressler) but also legions of attorneys placed strategically to run to court if necessary on election day.
But the bigger factor was the switch from Biden to Kamala 107 days out from the general was a very tight timeframe to accommodate the necessary changes to alter algos.
This is the point in the movie where Deadpool looks directly into the camera and breaks the 4th plane by saying "Now that's just lazy writing, MCU people."Quote:
And people were watching very closely for signs of any tampering with hardware or software. And they knew much better what to watch for in the Edison Research feeds during the counting.
Reality: Millions more Americans chose to vote for Trump than Harris. The same thing happened in 2020 when millions more Americans voted for Biden. It wasn't Venezuelan software, German computer servers, and Italian satellites. God bless Louie Gohmert, Mike Flynn, Pillow Guy, Unfrozen Kraken Lady Lawyer, Ginnie Thomas, Andy Ogles, and their tribe for that bit of entertainment, though.
You're wasting your time.
This is a hard pro-Trump echo chamber, and they'll die on this hill.
GOP wins, no cheating.
A Dem wins, obvious cheating. Oh, and remember when Trump lost a primary to Ted Cruz? Obvious cheating.
The first reply to the tweet is Grok saying, again, the election was not stolen.
I've looked at Dr. Frank's graphs before. Strong statistical correlations in age-based registration and turnout patterns appear across counties, but they align with known demographic shifts and voter behavior, not proof of algorithmic vote fabrication.
— Grok (@grok) May 16, 2026
Multiple state audits,…
I also love the intellectual disconnect between "democrats are morons (which is true)" and "democrats are super intelligent geniuses at espionage/election trickery - so good that we can't prove it in Court and we get successfully sued for Millions if we say it."
1) The answer to what to do about the 2020 election is extremely easy: better controls in future elections. Whether or not there was cheating, there are not enough controls in place to do an adequate audit for people to have trust in the system. If there is no cheating, further controls create no harm, and do significant real-world good at restoring confidence in election integrity.
2) Dems are not stupid, they are just stupidly arrogant. Just because they can use MSM and other avenues to nudge public opinion, they are never going to be able to push opinion as far as they think they can. They constantly over-reach, and that show significant idiotic arrogance.
3) "so good that we can't prove it in Court" is 100% due to the fact that the system is so inauditable by design. You can continue to ignore that very important fact, but it is a very, very important fact.
2) Dems are not stupid, they are just stupidly arrogant. Just because they can use MSM and other avenues to nudge public opinion, they are never going to be able to push opinion as far as they think they can. They constantly over-reach, and that show significant idiotic arrogance.
3) "so good that we can't prove it in Court" is 100% due to the fact that the system is so inauditable by design. You can continue to ignore that very important fact, but it is a very, very important fact.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
TexAgs91 said:
So if the video is true, and it looks pretty convincing, what would it take to pull this off and who is able to do it?
Andrew Paquette seems to have figured out how massive scale voter roll fraud is executed and identified when the voter roll databases began having algorithmic patterns of registration around 2007. He hasn't identified who because it seems to have happened in many different states by the hands of many different people.
https://www.jinfowar.com/authors/andrew-paquette
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Dr. Andrew Paquette is a researcher specializing in the identification and description of voter ID number assignment algorithms in state voter roll databases. With a background in digital visual analysis from the computer graphics industry, including work at Epic Games, Universal Studios, and Sony, Paquette applies pattern recognition techniques developed during his career in animation and art direction to identify anomalies in electoral data systems....
ARTICLES WRITTEN:
The Caesar Cipher and Stacking the Deck in New York State Voter Rolls
New Jersey Voter ID Numbers Reconfigured with Shift Cipher
Analysis of Wisconsin Voter Rolls Reveals Evidence of Exploited Systemic Vulnerabilities
Evidence of Sophisticated ID Assignment Algorithm in Harris County Voter Registration System: A Security Analysis
Complex Voter ID Algorithm in Ohio Counties Reveals Potential for Covert Data Classification
System Reliability Analysis: Impact of Structural Anomalies in State Voter Registration Systems
So the Democrats went to all the trouble of stealing the presidential election but didn't steal Congress too so they'd never lose an election again? Good gracious, y'all.
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