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CNN used to have a graphic on their home page showing the average price of gas compared to what it was before the war started.

They've taken that graphic down for some reason.

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Prices are still much higher than when this war started. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

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No Spin Ag said:

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Per Trump's maga, if prices are one penny lower than they were under Biden, even if higher than they have been during Trump's second administration, the answer is a resounding yes.

And if grocery prices are higher since Trump has been in office, it's something to be proud of because 'Merca (maga, really) being back, so having less money, if because of Trump, is a good thing.

Gotta love American politics, que no?

And, yes, gas is even down a dime in the LBK. I'll be happy about lower prices when they get back down to where they were before Trump started his war with Iran, that we've supposedly won, yet our military is still fighting and the entire planet is being affected by.

But, yes, the media needs to talk about gas prices being alittle lower than their highest in Trump's second administration.

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User name checks out completely. No Spin mocks all of you who believe in any of these con artist politicians or parties on either side.

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Do you think gas prices would be higher or lower, all else held equal, if we hadn't increase domestic production?

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U.S. monthly average oil production has increased a bit under Trump 2.0, but only by about ~300k barrels per day.

Drill Baby Drill 2.0 is another of Trump's many 2024 campaign promises that hasn't happened.

Domestic oil production increased far more under Obama (2009-2016) and Biden (2021-2024) than it has under the Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0 regimes.

However, Trump and Jared Kushner do deserve credit for lowering US gasoline prices in 2025. We U.S. citizens aren't privy to the secret agreements Trump and Jared have made with ME OPEC producers, but some of the parts of those secret dealings have become public.

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BusterAg said:

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docb said:

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Per Trump's maga, if prices are one penny lower than they were under Biden, even if higher than they have been during Trump's second administration, the answer is a resounding yes.

And if grocery prices are higher since Trump has been in office, it's something to be proud of because 'Merca (maga, really) being back, so having less money, if because of Trump, is a good thing.

Gotta love American politics, que no?

And, yes, gas is even down a dime in the LBK. I'll be happy about lower prices when they get back down to where they were before Trump started his war with Iran, that we've supposedly won, yet our military is still fighting and the entire planet is being affected by.

But, yes, the media needs to talk about gas prices being alittle lower than their highest in Trump's second administration.

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One way for Trump to have kept gas prices down would have been to drop off a pallet full of unmarked $100s to the Iran government and allowed Iran to develop a nuke.

You like that strategy better?

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Part of the agreement with Iran that we're allegedly almost there on includes $300B to the Iranian government, but do carry on...

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The emerging US-Iran peace framework does not include direct cash payments from the United States to Iran, as President Trump has explicitly refused to authorize deals involving "pallets of cash" similar to the 2016 Obama administration settlement. Instead, the proposed agreement centers on a $300 billion international reconstruction fund facilitated by the US and the gradual release of up to $25 billion in frozen Iranian assets held abroad.
Financial Mechanisms and Conditions

• Reconstruction Fund: The $300 billion figure represents an investment fund for rebuilding Iran rather than a direct transfer of US taxpayer money, though Iranian officials have characterized similar demands as "reparations."
• Frozen Assets: Iran seeks immediate access to its own frozen funds, with drafts proposing an initial release of $12 billion to $25 billion, contingent on verified actions like reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
• "No Performance, No Payment": US officials describe the structure as "trust but verify on steroids," meaning financial relief and blockade lifting occur proportionately only as Iran meets specific conditions.

That is different than a pallet of unmarked $100's, don't you think?

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The "pallets of unmarked $100's" were, in fact, frozen Iranian assets. Their money in the first place.

Many things can be true, all at once:

- Gas is still higher than it was before the Iran "war". Period. The reason for the "war" means exactly dick when people are trying to pay for things.

- The difference between Obama's "pallets of cash" and Trump's plan is miniscule, where it matters. The Iranian people. They're still getting paid. I'm getting nothing, even though I'm having to pay more for gas and other things. Yay?

-The MSM is an enemy to the truth, and always has been.

-Iran is a known liar and any "plan" will not be adheres to by them. In any way.

- Trump is better than Biden/Harris/Obama but that's a ground-level bar to hurdle.

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Not trying to be a D, but unless you are doing commercial or abnormally heavy hauling all the time, I have always wondered why people go the diesel route? You pay like $10-12k more up front for the truck, you have all types of envoronmental stuff on it bogging it down and presenting potential problems...and it is almost always at least $1/gallon more than gasoline.

People usually cite the mpg savings as the benefit, but is the added fuel efficiency great enough to ever recoup the extra price at the pump and extra $10-12k at the time of purchase?

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Not trying to be a D, but unless you are doing commercial or abnormally heavy hauling all the time, I have always wondered why people go the diesel route? You pay like $10-12k more up front for the truck, you have all types of envoronmental stuff on it bogging it down and presenting potential problems...and it is almost always at least $1/gallon more than gasoline.

People usually cite the mpg savings as the benefit, but is the added fuel efficiency great enough to ever recoup the extra price at the pump and extra $10-12k at the time of purchase?

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You don't have to own/drive a diesel for high prices to cost you. Everything you buy at the store gets there via a diesel-powered vehicle. High fuel = higher prices

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Hardcore Greg said:

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Not trying to be a D, but unless you are doing commercial or abnormally heavy hauling all the time, I have always wondered why people go the diesel route? You pay like $10-12k more up front for the truck, you have all types of envoronmental stuff on it bogging it down and presenting potential problems...and it is almost always at least $1/gallon more than gasoline.

People usually cite the mpg savings as the benefit, but is the added fuel efficiency great enough to ever recoup the extra price at the pump and extra $10-12k at the time of purchase?

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You don't have to own/drive a diesel for high prices to cost you. Everything you buy at the store gets there via a diesel-powered vehicle. High fuel = higher prices

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Honestly, I could see diesel powered 18-wheelers having an actual fuel efficiency cost saving advantage over time. I could be wrong. I was talking moreso about trucks in the consumer market.

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Were you this bothered when Biden had it up even higher during the Ukraine bull***** Because if you answer is yes, then I guess you should be happy or at least not hypocritical.

The hypocrisy is unreal.

Liberals right now: “High gas prices are Trump’s fault!”

But when gas was $5+ under Biden, Biden’s own Energy Secretary said, “Obviously, the President does not control the price of gasoline. No president does.”

Can’t have it both ways. Either the… pic.twitter.com/eweI0iqEsV

— 🇺🇸Lady Vet (@CoVet_81) June 3, 2026

…Can't have it both ways. Either the President controls gas prices or he doesn't.

Pick one....

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fc2112 said:

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CNN used to have a graphic on their home page showing the average price of gas compared to what it was before the war started.

They've taken that graphic down for some reason.

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Prices are still much higher than when this war started. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

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The hypocrisy. Remember when they were screaming about the eggs and then they went down quickly and everyone shut the hell up? They only care when it's Trump doing it when things were worse under Biden they didn't. This isn't even hard.

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No Spin Ag said:

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TAMUallen said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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docb said:

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Per Trump's maga, if prices are one penny lower than they were under Biden, even if higher than they have been during Trump's second administration, the answer is a resounding yes.

And if grocery prices are higher since Trump has been in office, it's something to be proud of because 'Merca (maga, really) being back, so having less money, if because of Trump, is a good thing.

Gotta love American politics, que no?

And, yes, gas is even down a dime in the LBK. I'll be happy about lower prices when they get back down to where they were before Trump started his war with Iran, that we've supposedly won, yet our military is still fighting and the entire planet is being affected by.

But, yes, the media needs to talk about gas prices being alittle lower than their highest in Trump's second administration.

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One way for Trump to have kept gas prices down would have been to drop off a pallet full of unmarked $100s to the Iran government and allowed Iran to develop a nuke.

You like that strategy better?

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I like strategies that don't raise my prices. I'm simple that way.

Also, according to the Google, Iran has never had a nuclear weapon, and we were told last summer that mission accomplished when Trump bombed their facilities and told us that threat was done.

I just want prices to go back down to where they were back before he invaded, when Iran having nukes he eliminated last summer. Again, simple.

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Are you now joking and just acting simple?

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What part of what I said was untrue?

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This would be a good example then of how simple you sounded.

We have no evidence that they have yet attained nuclear fission or fusion bomb capabilities. However, to say they couldnt produce weapons with nuclear materials in them, i.e. dirty bombs, would be one hundred percent incorrect. Regardless, to be more simple, it isn't a question of if they would attain nuclear bomb ability but when if left unchecked beyond the initial strikes

Even more simple is being so near sighted that you cant realize what rebuilding is after something has been struck

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That and in negotiations they admitted they were on the path to build a nuclear weapon.
That was destroyed for the near future but they admitted they would not give up the ability to build a nuclear weapon in the future.
This from the regime that calls for intifada killing ALL non-believers. Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindu, Atheists, Zoroastrian.
This from the regime that is sponsoring the genocide of 100,000s Christians in northeastern Africa currently

Diesel motors typically last longer. But I think any advantage in that area is outweighed by higher costs. Plus, what percentage of owners actually keep the vehicle long enough to take advantage of that feature? Pretty low I bet.

In other words, I'm with you. There are few scenarios where a diesel pickup truck makes more sense.

fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Do you get credit for somewhat un****ing the things you completely **** up?

I haul a large boat and a heavy trailer carrying a tractor and skid steer. Diesel is the only way to go. It's honestly much safer to do these things with a heavier truck also.

For every one of you, there are a 100 overweight, goateed jerks driving diesel powered bro-dozers.

My diesel is a 2012 with 250k miles on it. It pre-dates the diesel exhaust fluid. And I use it like a diesel should be used.

I have a 2019 diesel with 180k on it. Hauling what I do would suck with a gasser in the mountains where I live. I no longer have a DEF system, so that is moot to me. The right tune and deleted gets me around 22-24mpg since I drive like a grandpa anyways. As far as cost, I signed up for it and dont regret it at all.

Yep. The 25-year-old bro who still lives with his parents across the street from me and fires up his truck to go to the gym every day at the time my kids are going to bed falls into that category. That truck sits out front all day and is only gone from about 7:30 - 9:00pm

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This is not that complicated. Trump ran against high gas prices. Trump talked all the time about what high gas prices do to the US economy. He talked all the time how it raised prices for consumer goods. He promised low gas prices.

So now that he is president we are told now that for some reason Trump's gas prices don't have the same effects.

Just like Biden earned the I Did This stickers. Trump owns these prices. This is not what he campaigned on.

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Please provide a link to the ads/speeches you're talking about here.

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I haul a large boat and a heavy trailer carrying a tractor and skid steer. Diesel is the only way to go. It's honestly much safer to do these things with a heavier truck also.

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Yeah, I should have worded it differently....that makes sense. Most people I know here in Houston just seem to want the diesel badge/sound. They are not hauling or towing anything a 3/4 ton gasser can't do with stunning ease. My neighbor has a jacked up F-250 Tremor diesel to occasionally haul a waverunner. Also, to be fair, $10-12k is nothing to some of these guys. I just think it's funny when people cite "fuel efficiency" as the main reason for driving a big diesel 3/4 ton as a daily driver.

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For every one of you, there are a 100 overweight, goateed jerks driving diesel powered bro-dozers.

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Ha, I guess this was my main point. Also, I am shocked by some of the people I see driving these $80-100k supertrucks. Tatted up 18 y/o Edgar's n stuff. Suburban middle income white HS kids.

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docb said:

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Well diesel was around $3 a gallon. It's still high as **** so I don't know what you are talking about. Should I be happy that it's in the high $4 range?

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Where were you this bothered when Biden had it up even higher during the Ukraine bull***** Because if you answer is yes, then I guess you should be happy or at least not hypocritical.

The hypocrisy is unreal.

Liberals right now: “High gas prices are Trump’s fault!”

But when gas was $5+ under Biden, Biden’s own Energy Secretary said, “Obviously, the President does not control the price of gasoline. No president does.”

Can’t have it both ways. Either the… pic.twitter.com/eweI0iqEsV

— 🇺🇸Lady Vet (@CoVet_81) June 3, 2026

…Can't have it both ways. Either the President controls gas prices or he doesn't.

Pick one....

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Presidents don't control gas prices. Presidents make decisions and set policies that influence the cost of gas directly or indirectly, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse.

I don't think Trump made his decisions regarding Iran with the intent to drive up gas prices. But some of the consequences of those decisions have led to higher prices, with the potential for them to go even higher in coming months. Those higher fuel prices impact many parts of American life.

Unfortunately, high gas prices in a midterm year is not great because many voters only care about results, not intent.

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fc2112 said:

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Over the last months, we've seen non-stop news stories about the price of gas going up and how Trump is responsible for it.

But now that the price has gone down. $0.50 per gallon in the last 2 weeks, the stories about the price of gas heavy evaporated.

Gee, nobody is there, huh?

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Do you get credit for somewhat un****ing the things you completely **** up?

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What exactly did he **** up here?

The whole point just went over your head.

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That's kind of like saying you cut the budget when you're the one who ran it up.

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Apples and oranges.

Gas prices went up under Biden because he cut domestic production and was a direct goal of the policy.

Gas prices went up under Trump as a byproduct of foreign policy decision to ensure Iran doesn't obtain nukes.

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Domestic oil production increased under Joe Biden.

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Despite the best efforts of his political party to suppress production and consumption of oil domestically. American technology and the loss of some key legal challenges won the day over increased regulation somehow.

How high do you Bozos think gas prices would go if Iran were permitted to obtain nuclear weapons?

Iran wants high oil prices. So if Iran nukes the ME, what would oil go to? $200/bbl? $300/bbl? $400/bbl.

You can't let that regime have a nuke. There is zero doubt they were refining uranium for that purpose. It was a matter of when they would make a bomb (or 11 according to their negotiators), not if.

World War II was terribly inconvenient for the U.S. population too. Actual hardship and rationing. The difference was the people were united in taking down an existential threat, instead of trying to score political points against the current administration because they had nothing else to offer.