Why were they shuttered, who owned them?

AlaskanAg99 said:

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Why were they shuttered, who owned them?

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Because the Panama containment zone made them unnecessary...until they were necessary. Pretty sure they were jointly owned by the governments and the US. Basically, they operated them, and we subsidized the production.

If it weren't for the disruption caused by COVID, this wouldn't be a conversation we are having. The flies live 3 weeks max. That's why it took so long to migrate back up to us.

It has begun...the issue will be when the hog and poultry prices start climbing rapidly to replace the consumer demand for beef if it gets too high. PRRS is still a big issue in swine production right now. Not much AI in poultry currently, but that can change quickly given the weather we're moving into.

Buck Turgidson said:

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bonfarr said:

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Rip is gonna need to dig a bigger trench.

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Wasn't that hoof and mouth?

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Yes it was. Now a Screw Worm outbreak they ain't never going to be able to make it work. Wildfire drove them to Texas and hoof and mouth and now this. Thoughts and prayers. At least maybe their vet will keep silent on the outbreak and let them cover it up like he did the hoof and mouth.

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itsyourboypookie said:

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Cattle prices down. Shouldn't prices go the other way?

Do they think this will tank demand?

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Once quarantine goes in place, prices should come back up. I sure as hell hope so. I'm shipping first of September.

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Sell them now with superior and ship them in September

Gaeilge said:

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It has begun...the issue will be when the hog and poultry prices start climbing rapidly to replace the consumer demand for beef if it gets too high. PRRS is still a big issue in swine production right now. Not much AI in poultry currently, but that can change quickly given the weather we're moving into.

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AI doesn't really affect chicken prices very much. Eggs are another story, but not many people are replacing beef with eggs.

Given the sheer volume of broiler production in the US, I tend to agree. There's a plethora of issues that can arise. We all know that broilers aren't immune to it and can wipe a complex out if not contained.

Hell, I was at Sanderson in 09 (I think) when they had an LT outbreak that made life an absolute living hell because the Waco and Bryan complexes' growers are all on top of each other, and the biosecurity plan was absolutely ****ed.

Millions of people and animals moving north through the Darien Gap and eventually to our border under Biden didn't help. Basically placed them right at our doorstep.

I've read we've been releasing around 10,000,000 sterile flies per week for the past several months or longer. Is that not enough to crash the population?

Tampico to Brownsville is 250 miles.

Maybe the flies released that far south is inadequate.

This whole sterile flies thing is completely new to me and amazing. Science is cool.

HTownAg98 said:

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Depends on where you are in the state. There are portions of South Texas where you can drive for miles and not see a low fence. It's going to be more about those landowners protecting their herds. If this hits the state wild hog population, I doubt people will complain much.

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They should. If it becomes endemic in the wild hog population it will take years if not decades and billions of dollars to get it out of the US

909Ag2006 said:

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I've read we've been releasing around 10,000,000 sterile flies per week for the past several months or longer. Is that not enough to crash the population?

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USDA has been releasing 100 million sterile flies per week in Mexico and Texas. Likely why the fly wasn't here earlier.

bobbranco said:

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Tampico to Brownsville is 250 miles.

Maybe the flies released that far south is inadequate.

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They have these things called airplanes that they can load the flies onto and drop then where they are needed. It's not like they open a door from the facility and just set them free.

HTownAg98 said:

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bobbranco said:

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Tampico to Brownsville is 250 miles.

Maybe the flies released that far south is inadequate.

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They have these things called airplanes that they can load the flies onto and drop then where they are needed. It's not like they open a door from the facility and just set them free.

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Flying airplanes seem redundant.

No different than when you see a pilot deadheading in passenger part of an airplane.