Flu Outbreak at Air Force Boot Camp

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FriscoKid
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Bob Lee said:

"dozens" out of how many thousands of recruits? Google says between 5 and 20% of people contract the flu every season. "dozens" is probably about 1% or less of Air Force recruits.

So what? We all get sick a few times a year or maybe you skip a year without getting sick. OP wants to blame the war secretary for the sniffles for political points. I've got a kid that 100% wants to enlist after HS. Holy ****, I'm in danger because Hegseth said I didn't have to take an ineffective flu shot? I'm a lot more concerned that some crazy dude will use a real killer against him.
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boulderaggie said:

Flu vaccined people still get the flu.

Two worst flu cases I ever got were right after I got the flu shot. Never again.
BlueSmoke
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dixichkn said:

boulderaggie said:

Flu vaccined people still get the flu.

Two worst flu cases I ever got were right after I got the flu shot. Never again.

Same. Never again. Pop Vit D like candy, get outside, stay active, get adequate rest.
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https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.
samurai_science
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AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.

Imagine having to get a flu shot lol

Thats why you dont sign your life over to the feds
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AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.


Stupid.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
AGpops1923
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Chairforce gonna chairforce
BigRobSA
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Keller6Ag91 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.


Stupid.

Yep.

It wouldn't have stopped this instance, or any other.

The flu shot is worthless.
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BigRobSA said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.


Stupid.

Yep.

It wouldn't have stopped this instance, or any other.

The flu shot is worthless.


Why does MAGA not believe in science?
Keller6Ag91
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91_Aggie said:

BigRobSA said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.


Stupid.

Yep.

It wouldn't have stopped this instance, or any other.

The flu shot is worthless.


Why does MAGA not believe in science?


The science is biased (at times) stupid. Did you learn zippo from Covid?

Based on you starting this thread, I'm inclined to say "yes"
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
BigRobSA
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91_Aggie said:

BigRobSA said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.


Stupid.

Yep.

It wouldn't have stopped this instance, or any other.

The flu shot is worthless.


Why does MAGA not believe in science?

Me? MAGA?



LOLNope. You're funny.
samurai_science
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91_Aggie said:

BigRobSA said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.


Stupid.

Yep.

It wouldn't have stopped this instance, or any other.

The flu shot is worthless.


Why does MAGA not believe in science?

Define MAGA, and while your at it give me the data that its a vaccine that works to stop a virus. I know what it does do, it makes you get the flue, at least that's what it did to me the one time I took it. Never again

I had never gotten the flu before or since.
samurai_science
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Keller6Ag91 said:

91_Aggie said:

BigRobSA said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.


Stupid.

Yep.

It wouldn't have stopped this instance, or any other.

The flu shot is worthless.


Why does MAGA not believe in science?


The science is biased (at times) stupid. Did you learn zippo from Covid?

Based on you starting this thread, I'm inclined to say "yes"

He probably thinks masks work also, because of the "science".
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samurai_science said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-flu-shot-requirement-boot-camp-outbreak-4255f063ef99ea2d00cb24fec8793c32

Welp.

Imagine having to get a flu shot lol

Thats why you dont sign your life over to the feds


If you're lucky you just get the flu shot at basic. I needed 5. They had us in a line and just injected you as you went by one at a time. One dip **** broke the needle in my arm. Pulled it out and then injected another vaccine again because they weren't sure it went in all the way. I don't even remember them telling us what we needed.
BigRobSA
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There's a reason that NOBODY calls it a vaccine. It's always referred to, in the vernacular, as a "shot".

Before COVID, and the idiots in charge at that time, "vaccine" meant something. They bass-tardized the definition to accommodate that craptastic injectable pre-therapeutic (mRNA or not) and its total ineffectiveness.
RINO Safari
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BigRobSA said:

There's a reason that NOBODY calls it a vaccine. It's always referred to, in the vernacular, as a "shot".

Before COVID, and the idiots in charge at that time, "vaccine" meant something. They bass-tardized the definition to accommodate that craptastic injectable pre-therapeutic (mRNA or not) and its total ineffectiveness.


You're more likely to get the infection from the shot itself than you are out in public. I challenge any resident lib to show us actual facts stating that these covid and flu "vaccines" have any benefit.
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Wildmen03 said:

And I got the Corps Crud every year no matter the shots I got or how well I washed my hands. You put that many people in close quarters breathing on each other, working out together etc., people are going to get sick.


I am a huge germaphobe

but never got sick during AMS Officer school at McGee-Tyson AFB

sometimes the body can overcome pressure situations better than normal situations.

I just googled for a pic and turns out this is my buddy Pete Shinn from my class of O-2005-3!

GMaster0
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So the USAF asked for exemption to this sad policy to vax Airman in boot camp since cases have continued to climb.

"The U.S. military is again requiring flu shots for new recruits, just two months after the secretary of defense declared the vaccine optional for troops, as an outbreak at an Air Force training base spreads.

The Army, Navy and Air Force have each been granted exceptions to the new optional annual flu vaccine policy and are once more mandating flu shots for basic trainees, according to officials cited by ABC News."

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2026-06-25/air-force-outbreak-grows-as-military-reinstates-flu-shot-rule-for-recruits

Also studies from the government on benefits of flu vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu-vaccines-work/benefits/index.html

Flu vaccination can reduce the risk of flu-related hospitalization and admission to intensive care.

Flu vaccination prevents hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations each year.

For example, CDC estimates that during 20242025, flu vaccination prevented 180,000 flu-related hospitalizations in the United States.

A 2025 study showed that flu vaccination reduced the risk of flu-related hospitalization for influenza A(H1N1) viruses and influenza B viruses, while vaccine effectiveness was not statistically significant for influenza A(H3N2) viruses (meaning that there was not clear evidence of a protective effect).

A 2018 study showed that from 2012 to 2015, flu vaccination among adults reduced the risk of being admitted to an intensive care unit (ICU) with flu by 82%.

A 2017 systematic review found that during the 20102011 through 20142015 flu seasons, flu vaccination reduced the risk of flu-related hospitalization among older adults by about 40% on average.

A 2014 study showed that flu vaccination reduced children's risk of flu-related pediatric intensive care unit (PICU) admission by 74% during flu seasons from 2010 to 2012.



BigRobSA
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LOL

Bull****

Get it of you want it. Might as well inject sterile saline. Similar anti-influenza effectiveness.
Monkeypoxfighter
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Fear not! Joaquin Castro is on it!

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2026/06/24/275-people-test-positive-for-influenza-at-jbsa-lackland-rep-castro-says/

  • Had all those recruits been vaccinated against the strain encountered the minute they stepped off the bus, it would not have stopped it. It takes 2 weeks for full effectiveness
  • As another poster said, if you get a shot for "A" and you are exposed to "B", good luck. That's why the flu shot is a guessing game that the CDC isn't really good at, and modern world travel patterns make it even tougher
  • You can't get the flu from a dead virus, but my doc said some people get a super high immune system response from the vaccine. I did one time and it kicked my ass for 1 day (hardly flu-like)
It only took me a year to figure out this place is nuts!
Ag with kids
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Monkeypoxfighter said:

Fear not! Joaquin Castro is on it!

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2026/06/24/275-people-test-positive-for-influenza-at-jbsa-lackland-rep-castro-says/

  • Had all those recruits been vaccinated against the strain encountered the minute they stepped off the bus, it would not have stopped it. It takes 2 weeks for full effectiveness
  • As another poster said, if you get a shot for "A" and you are exposed to "B", good luck. That's why the flu shot is a guessing game that the CDC isn't really good at, and modern world travel patterns make it even tougher
  • You can't get the flu from a dead virus, but my doc said some people get a super high immune system response from the vaccine. I did one time and it kicked my ass for 1 day (hardly flu-like)


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