The next time the commies come for more of your money...

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https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/2025-12/measuring-tax-progressivity-in-high-income-countries-oecd_0.pdf

WSJ had an article today (paywalled) referencing a new study out of Canada examining the "progressivity" of national tax systems. IOWs, how much tax was paid by the rich, compared to that paid by the poor.

Compared to more than 50 nations (and a few states), California (#1)was the most progressive and Texas (#4) was the 4th most progressive. Korea and Newfoundland were 2nd and 3rd most progressive. Naturally, any state with a progressive income tax would have ranked as more progressive than Texas - since we don't have a state income tax. :-) Page 31 of the pdf, if you want to see the other countries.

Poor in the US pay much less than in many other countries due to Value-Added-Taxes that everyone, rich or poor, pays. The US has no such tax, although Trump's tariffs had the same effect. This VAT shifts some of the tax load onto the less wealthy in most "rich" nations.

The socialists/commies/dems seem to think our "rich" are not paying their share, but in reality the poor in the US pay less compared to the rich than in those in any other nation.

The next time the commies come for more of your money because the "rich" don't pay enough or want to means test another program...just say hell no.
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The Bolsheviks never let facts get in the way of a revolution.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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The top 1% of US earners pay 40% of federal income taxes and earn 24% of the income.

So if the rich actually paid their fair share, their income taxes would almost be cut in half!
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I am in the minority I believe, but eliminating the income tax we have and going to a VAT or something similar is the only fair way to tax citizens. When a large block can vote for higher taxes on one group for their own benefit, taxation no longer meets whatever threshold the founders intended.
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Once AI takes the jobs, they'll rob every single one of us except for the elites. Why do you think they're building those bunkers? They'll take your land. They'll have the control of AI and the drones, so good luck. Plus, they have us so dependent on AC, constant food supply, and porn/streaming, nobody is going to raise an eyebrow. We will all be given a monthly stipend that expires at the end of the month or is reduced/eliminated based on your credit score. You can use that money to buy your weed, porn, streaming, grubhub, uber, and what not. At the end of the month, it's gone. So absolutely no wealth generation.

What's the alternative at this point? It's going to get very dark. They've so *******ized capitalism with whatever we have now that people are rejecting it. People are voting for outright communists.
Kansas Kid
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pfo said:

The top 1% of US earners pay 40% of federal income taxes and earn 24% of the income.

So if the rich actually paid their fair share, their income taxes would almost be cut in half!

While I agree the rich pay their fair share in this country and then some, this analysis and any analysis of taxes paid need to look at all taxes paid by that individual and not just income taxes. FICA is a massive burden on the American people along with property taxes and sales taxes.
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Queso1 said:

Once AI takes the jobs, they'll rob every single one of us except for the elites. Why do you think they're building those bunkers? They'll take your land. They'll have the control of AI and the drones, so good luck. Plus, they have us so dependent on AC, constant food supply, and porn/streaming, nobody is going to raise an eyebrow. We will all be given a monthly stipend that expires at the end of the month or is reduced/eliminated based on your credit score. You can use that money to buy your weed, porn, streaming, grubhub, uber, and what not. At the end of the month, it's gone. So absolutely no wealth generation.

What's the alternative at this point? It's going to get very dark. They've so *******ized capitalism with whatever we have now that people are rejecting it. People are voting for outright communists.


If this comes to fruition, I think you overestimate a population's ability to survive that.

It won't

Look for a huge kill-off. Mao will look like child's play
Over_ed
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Queso1 said:

Once AI takes the jobs, they'll rob every single one of us except for the elites. Why do you think they're building those bunkers? They'll take your land. They'll have the control of AI and the drones, so good luck. Plus, they have us so dependent on AC, constant food supply, and porn/streaming, nobody is going to raise an eyebrow. We will all be given a monthly stipend that expires at the end of the month or is reduced/eliminated based on your credit social score. You can use that money to buy your weed, porn, streaming, grubhub, uber, and what not. At the end of the month, it's gone. So absolutely no wealth generation.

What's the alternative at this point? It's going to get very dark. They've so *******ized capitalism with whatever we have now that people are rejecting it. People are voting for outright communists.

Sorry to interrupt, but let me make one suggestion above. Everyone will be poor; what they will care about is social compliance.
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AnScAggie said:

I am in the minority I believe, but eliminating the income tax we have and going to a VAT or something similar is the only fair way to tax citizens. When a large block can vote for higher taxes on one group for their own benefit, taxation no longer meets whatever threshold the founders intended.

National sales/consumption tax.

Everyone participates at exactly their "fair share".
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