It's shocking to me that Google's model is the most neutral. I can only assume the backlash due to the black founding father and black nazi images is behind this.

Thank you STAFF for cleaning up the thread!

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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What I have noticed from ChatGPT is a subtle push-back when I make a prompt that has a political component - maybe I was asking about a candidate's position and made a statement that I believe the candidate was better than the commie opponent. ChatGPT tries to wriggle around that by pointing out any good the commie stands for (but IMO if there was good in the commie, then they wouldn't be a commie)

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There's only one type of good communist.

I don't want/need a cell phone to tell me how to think

There was a time in 2023 when if you asked it to make a joke or Jesus, it would happy create one. Buddha, again happily.
But Muhammad? Noooo it would piously lecture you on how wrong it was to make jokes about a sacred person.

Ozzy Osbourne said:

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It's shocking to me that Google's model is the most neutral. I can only assume the backlash due to the black founding father and black nazi images is behind this.

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Google is now among the leaders in the LLM race. Looks like they cleaned up their act and got away from woke.
They have their cloud platform GCP and now with Gemini, they have a nice ecosystem to compete with Amazon's AWS. Amazon doesn't seem to have their own LLM, at least not that competes with Claude, GPT and Gemini.

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GeorgiAg said:

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What is "left leaning only" or "right leaning only"?

I would want to see what that is first.

The best, based on this graph, is Anthropic. You want both sides, not left or right only.

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Look at the graphic again please.

You do not want a model that half the time gives both sides and the other half gives left only! That's not the best model at all as far as bias.

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The best model for eliminating bias is the model that gives both sides the most often, which is Anthropic.

If you only want a right-leaning response, which is totally fine in a lot of situations, than Grok is absolutely the model for those times.

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How do you reconcile your comment about Grok with Thiessen's graph in the OP that shows Grok giving 7% more responses (40 vs 33) that are left-leaning?

This sounds like the old Wikipedia vs Conservapedia and Google vs Bing arguments back in the day.

Well, yeah.

GeorgiAg said:

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What is "left leaning only" or "right leaning only"?

I would want to see what that is first.

The best, based on this graph, is Anthropic. You want both sides, not left or right only.

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Ideally an LLM should give you correct answers. That means a lot of left leaning nonsense should be omitted. No points should be awarded for including wrong answers for the sake of inclusivity.

Don't use ChatGPT, Gemini, or Claude for political arguments/discussions/information. Use Grok for that.
ChaptGPT is great for travel itineraries and flight info, etc. Keep it to light stuff.

Grok is just as bad as the rest. Uncensored.ai is my preferred one

ts5641 said:

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Don't use ChatGPT, Gemini, or Claude for political arguments/discussions/information. Use Grok for that.
ChaptGPT is great for travel itineraries and flight info, etc. Keep it to light stuff.

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In fact I just used ChatGPT in the morning to help me plan out a vacation....

infinity ag said:

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There was a time in 2023 when if you asked it to make a joke or Jesus, it would happy create one. Buddha, again happily.
But Muhammad? Noooo it would piously lecture you on how wrong it was to make jokes about a sacred person.

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I just tried this. It basically said it doesn't have much training data on Muhammed jokes

Elon is our only hope.
Most important man in the universe right now.
People don't realize what he's sacrificed.

JB99 said:

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infinity ag said:

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There was a time in 2023 when if you asked it to make a joke or Jesus, it would happy create one. Buddha, again happily.
But Muhammad? Noooo it would piously lecture you on how wrong it was to make jokes about a sacred person.

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I just tried this. It basically said it doesn't have much training data on Muhammed jokes

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Did you try Jesus or Buddha?

Back in 2023, Muhammad was where these LLMs drew the line. Some LLMs were more woke than others.

TyHolden said:

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Elon is our only hope.
Most important man in the universe right now.
People don't realize what he's sacrificed.

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Remember when Elon wanted to start a political party? Something like America Party or something?

Fizzled out.