double b said:
daveydave said:
I'd like to get some thoughts on my son's upcoming application to the A&M College of Engineering in August 2026. Both his parents graduated from A&M and he was brought up as an Aggie. He's all in and A&M as his first choice. He's also applying to Michigan, Georgia Tech, Florida, Georgia, Bama and Auburn. But his #1 is A&M. I understand that getting into A&M is not as easy as it was for those of us in the 90s, but I understand that the College of Engineering is exceptionally difficult. He is finishing his Junior year at a small Christian private school in Texas. He will not be in the top 10% of his class, which class size is around 55 students. He'll prob be 6th or around that. He takes all honors and AP classes, has a GPA of 4.6, Summa Cum Laude. Got a 1420 SAT (1440 superscore) and 35 on ACT. Counselor at his school told him getting in without being top 10% is going to be challenging. He would prefer not going Blinn team, which I do understand is a solid option but I digress. Just trying to get an idea if A&M is a solid option, or should we start planning on other options. I'm usually on the premium board and ticket exchange, but recently discovered this forum so I thought I'd ask around. Thanks for any help. - Gig 'Em Dave '97
So, just a heads-up: Michigan and Georgia Tech both admit by major. Your son has great academic metrics, but how well does his application "point" to that major?
Bama should be a safety school, while Auburn should be considered a high match school. For the rest, since you're an out-of-state applicant, I would consider them to be low-match schools.
As for TAMU, the academic metrics sound good, and they have a solid SAT score. I would definitely look to max out your math and physics to further demonstrate your academic readiness.
For other families who are in similar positions, I plead with you to have your kids max out their math and physics by taking Calc BC and AP Physics C if your school offers them. If your student is struggling, PAY for a MATH coach. I don't know how many families I run into where their student wants to pursue engineering, yet they're struggling with Pre-calculus or Algebra II. By "struggling," I mean your student is having difficulty maintaining an "A" average. I doubt your son is in the position, but just a word of advice to others.
Doubleb with the great advice as always!
Have to agree on Georgia Tech and likely Florida. Florida has a new bill that is looking to pass that will make it so that 95% of students have to be Florida residents. If that goes through it's going to be EXTREMELY difficult to get in OOS. GT already has kids that get into MIT and don't get into GT though generally it is not "quite" that bad. Michigan isn't far behind, they have about 50% OOS students but it's really pricey OOS and generally harder to get into than A&M. Auburn, NC State, and Virginia Tech are all good possible options for OOS and very good engineering schools though they don't give much merit (Auburn gives the most).
The greater point though is that "pointy" issue. They want to see a compulsion towards being an engineer. That means taking the most Calc and Physics you can. It's nice if you took AP English and that helps with getting into the college but not engineering. That means writing a great essay that shows why you want to be an engineer. That also means having activities and awards in STEM or engineering related things whether it be Robotics, writing Apps or other programming work, rocketry, math competitions, or just building things. They want to see that you understand what engineering is and they want to see that you have tried to explore it some. Schools didn't used to put so much emphasis on this in the past but now it's standard, especially at a competitive engineering school with so many applicants with extremely high GPA's, high SAT's, and lots of APs and DC.
While some of that is frustrating it is because engineering is an absolute grind and commitment yet a ton of kids want to do it because they like the idea of making good money and having better job security. The reality is though if you don't love it or at least have an affinity for it you are unlikely to succeed. I know my son is taking Statics and Diff EQ right now and studying at least 30 hours a week outside of class learning formulas that look like Sanskrit to me and it's rough but he loves to build stuff and he knows that is the price you have to pay so he is pushing through. It takes more than being smart, esp at a good engineering school where EVERYONE is smart, you have to work your tail off and really want to do it or else you will be miserable and likely not succeed. Schools have limited spots and they want to make sure you don't get into the classes and transfer out or flunk out as much as they can.
I've had my diatribes here about ETAM but the general concept isn't bad it just needs modification. Mainly that only NM can get a pass from it, there is no "intent" towards a type of engineering so they don't filter based on that but rather treat all engineers the same to keep it balanced instead of having a kid who wants to do Mech E treated the same as someone who wants to do Civil on the front end when the back end result is dramatically different, and finally having the 3.75 qualifier for auto. The system makes great students hesitate to come to A&M and misleads other students who don't understand just how competitive ETAM is so they end up a year and a half into college realizing they have to pick another major. That's not a good system. Still the idea of having separate admissions for engineering is smart as is having kids at least explore other engineering disciplines before committing in many cases being healthy. Just needs refinement.
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