Kaepernick

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Jarrin Jay
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2:32p, 5/26/22
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Sooooo, he wants to be a slave again?! OK, got it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33983642/colin-kaepernick-work-las-vegas-raiders-week-sources-say


I hope he gets a camp invite with no contract and cut after the first week.
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2:54p, 5/26/22
I guess the raiders are trying to get Ben and Jerry's to supply their in stadium ice cream.
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MookieBlaylock
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10:03p, 5/26/22
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Almost 5 weeks w/out this worthless QB in the news
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12:51a, 5/28/22
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It will be hilarious if he is just awesome from day 1
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amercer
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6:22p, 5/28/22
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He would have been better than a lot of the QBs that have been run out on the field the last few years. Clearly no team wanted to deal with all the other stuff, but the guy could always play ok.
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MookieBlaylock
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In reply to amercer • 9:04p, 5/29/22
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amercer said:
He would have been better than a lot of the QBs that have been run out on the field the last few years. Clearly no team wanted to deal with all the other stuff, but the guy could always play ok.


please list the QB's that he is better than - and remember he demands 30 to 40 million to play
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amercer
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In reply to MookieBlaylock • 9:55p, 5/29/22
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Who's offered him 5 million that he's turned down?
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Seven Costanza
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10:52a, 5/30/22
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I think a lot of people remember the situation as something like "he was a pretty good QB on a Superbowl team, then he started protesting and was blackballed from the league".

In reality, he was good in 2012 and 2013, struggled in 2014, lost his starting job in 2015 to Blaine Gabbert, then had shoulder surgery, then started protesting, then regained his starting job a few games into the season in 2016 during which the 49ers went 1-10. The 49ers then hired Kyle Shanahan, who wanted to run a completely different system and didn't think CK was a good fit, so they cut him.

The problems with him getting another job were that 1) you have to run a specific style of play for him to fit, 2) he's a backup QB, so he would need to go to one of the few teams that plays his style, and 3) is it worth going through the media circus for a backup/lower-tier starter?

If you have a pile of applicants and they are all pretty average, but one is controversial on top of being average, do you choose that person? Of course not. It would probably be worth it if he was really good, but that's just not the case in this situation.
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In reply to MookieBlaylock • 10:30a, 5/31/22
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MookieBlaylock said:
amercer said:
He would have been better than a lot of the QBs that have been run out on the field the last few years. Clearly no team wanted to deal with all the other stuff, but the guy could always play ok.


please list the QB's that he is better than - and remember he demands 30 to 40 million to play
Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, Darnold, maybe a couple others. And a lot of backups. And he's not demanding 30 to 40 million. 3 years ago he said it would take $20 million for him to play in the AAF.

I completely understand all the controversy around Kaepernick and why a team wouldn't want the baggage, but let's not act like Nathan Peterman or Mike Glennon are better QBs.
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1:03p, 5/31/22
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from a pure football standpoint...

Kaepernick is another in a long line of mobile QB's --- that had 1 or 2 good seasons early in his career when he could run.

but once defensive coordinators realized he could not pass from the pocket --- they adjusted to keep him in the pocket --- and then Kaepernick was not a good QB anymore.

same thing happened to Marcus Mariota and others
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In reply to boy09 • 5:07p, 5/31/22
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boy09 said:
MookieBlaylock said:
amercer said:
He would have been better than a lot of the QBs that have been run out on the field the last few years. Clearly no team wanted to deal with all the other stuff, but the guy could always play ok.


please list the QB's that he is better than - and remember he demands 30 to 40 million to play
Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, Darnold, maybe a couple others. And a lot of backups. And he's not demanding 30 to 40 million. 3 years ago he said it would take $20 million for him to play in the AAF.

I completely understand all the controversy around Kaepernick and why a team wouldn't want the baggage, but let's not act like Nathan Peterman or Mike Glennon are better QBs.
He demanded being a starter and getting starting money pre-covid.

Let's not pretend peterman or glennon were slated to start for teams without first having injuries getting them in the role (hence being backups).

The rest you listed were highly drafted rookies that seemed to have plenty of upside.

CK is a clown and a race baiter and screwed himself out of a career for selfish and ignorant actions and he only has himself to blame.
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Scotty Appleton
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9:08p, 5/31/22
Kaepernick was a career 59.8% passer with a career best 3300 yards and only amassed 20 TD's 1 season.

As meh as Goff is, his worst season aside from his limited play rookie year is about equal to Kaepernick's best. Goff's best year blows Kaepernick away.

Darnold's 1st 2 years were similar to Kaepernick, but don't even compare the situations. Sam didn't have Gore, Staley, Vernon Davis and a Patrick Willis on D.

Jones's rookie year was comparable to Kaepernick's career best year, and Jones has this year to make or break.

Kaepernick was never good. As noted above, he was a limited playbook QB who got to play a few years with a top shelf RB, a very good OL and guys like Davis & Boldin. DC's figured him out, like most gimmicky running QB's after a couple of years.
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8:11p, 6/1/22
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he wanted 20 million to play in the 4 game AAF- but no he doesn't want starter money which is now 40$ million in the NFL
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11:53a, 6/2/22
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Must have burned through his grifter cash.
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5:34p, 6/9/22
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If he could still play and would sign for a decent contract and promise to be a team player he would have a job. None of these 3 requirements are even close.
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In reply to Seven Costanza • 5:48p, 6/9/22
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Seven Costanza said:
I think a lot of people remember the situation as something like "he was a pretty good QB on a Superbowl team, then he started protesting and was blackballed from the league".

In reality, he was good in 2012 and 2013, struggled in 2014, lost his starting job in 2015 to Blaine Gabbert, then had shoulder surgery, then started protesting, then regained his starting job a few games into the season in 2016 during which the 49ers went 1-10. The 49ers then hired Kyle Shanahan, who wanted to run a completely different system and didn't think CK was a good fit, so they cut him.

The problems with him getting another job were that 1) you have to run a specific style of play for him to fit, 2) he's a backup QB, so he would need to go to one of the few teams that plays his style, and 3) is it worth going through the media circus for a backup/lower-tier starter?

If you have a pile of applicants and they are all pretty average, but one is controversial on top of being average, do you choose that person? Of course not. It would probably be worth it if he was really good, but that's just not the case in this situation
I seem to recall Kaepernick actually opting out of a contract for a year that would've paid him something like $20M.

Yep, here is an article: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2695566-colin-kaepernicks-agents-inform-nfl-teams-qb-will-opt-out-of-49ers-contract

Now, perhaps he would've been cut anyway and it was a mutual decision, but it's an oft-repeated factually incorrect narrative to say the 49ers actually cut him. The favorable narrative that reporters use is one of the annoying parts of the story.
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11:54a, 6/10/22
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Maybe this was covered, but Antonio Brown trashed Kaepernick.
Given how much attention those two an generate, it's a little surprising.
"He was trash"



Here's the quote (NSFW) for those wanting the source
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Matsui
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In reply to Iowaggie • 12:27p, 6/10/22
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