Grand strategy games. Where to start?

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Victoria 3 drops today. I'm definitely going to give it a shot, but I suspect this is one that wont be good until later patches, and possibly additional DLC.
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JJxvi said:

Victoria 3 drops today. I'm definitely going to give it a shot, but I suspect this is one that wont be good until later patches, and possibly additional DLC.
I've got it added to my wishlist. Verrrry interested since you can play as the First Republic (ie Texas).
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Playing as the Republic of Texas is definitely a draw. Will wait a bit before buying though.
JJxvi
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Playing as Texas is definitely starting from the bottom. The entire non-subsistence farming economy (ie the only "building" you have at the start) is one level of maize farms.
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For someone not familiar with the Victoria series, what would be an equivalent start in say HOI4 or EU4 to Texas in Vic 3?
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Texas is like a one province minor in EU4 or a singly county Count in CK3. But also if like another decently sized nation or like a Duke started off with a claim on you and your other neighbor is a major power that eventually gets claims on you through events. As a beginner you probably wont make it past 3 decades or so before you get annexed by either Mexico or the US ending the game. I certainly havent.
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I would keep in mind that this game in particular should be considered a massive work in progress. These vanilla brand new games tend to be bland, and have game mechanics that are nowhere near the type of refinement you see after the major patches associated with DLC start being released. There are a large numbers of weird things happening that I'm not sure are working as intended, and a large number of the typical dumb bugs and errors also.

Today for example, I noticed that Florida has "State Trait" called Bone Valley which increases sulfur mine throughput....but they didn't add any of the actual sulfur resource to the state so you can never build a sulfur mine in Florida.
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Highly highly enjoying the new CK3 DLC "Tours and Tournaments."

Tons of potential for divergent RP.

Definitely a few bugs in this early stage that need to be ironed out but this has tremendously overhauled the game and made peacetime substantially more interesting.

The game is still way too easy in general and this dlc doesn't really help - the AI is never going to be as good at optimizing MAA and Accolades as the player. But certain changes (such as showing the player all of the titles the pope is willing to grant claims on) made it even easier or showed how much it needs to be rebalanced - I don't care who was in charge of England, the pope shouldn't grant my female two count ruler of Aachen a claim.

But damn if I don't love this game. Had to take a break the past few months because I couldn't enjoy it anymore after reading about what was coming in the developer diaries.
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I'm currently playing Stellaris with the new Galactic Paragons DLC. I think over time Stellaris feels like it has more replayability for me than most of the others even if it feels like it also kind bogs down in the late game more than some of the other ones do.
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Thought y'all might appreciate this

Aggie1205
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Anyone following the development of Project Caesar(ie EU5)? Looks very interesting so far.
JJxvi
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Ive seen Ludi et historia talk about the dev diaries and maps onon youtube.
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So far EU5 looks like it'd going to be really fun. Lots of cool info and details. They are releasing info a couple of times per week.

Ck3 also has a big expansion coming up where you can be an unlanded traveler plus other things. Might be enough to get me to actually pay full price for a DLC.
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EU5 is officially announced.
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Aggie1205 said:

EU5 is officially announced.


Time to get 400 hours in to a game before realizing I missed an entire core mechanic!
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I have never played these games before, but how difficult do you think the new one will be to learn? I don't play games consistently, so I tend to forget all the nuances of a game and give up on them. I like strategy games, but when you need to remember 40 steps and upgrades, I give up pretty quickly.

Edit: after rereading the title, my question seems pretty silly asking about a grand strategy game. Just curious if there are different modes available that aren't as immersive.
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No, these aren't the games you want.
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Captain Winky said:

I have never played these games before, but how difficult do you think the new one will be to learn? I don't play games consistently, so I tend to forget all the nuances of a game and give up on them. I like strategy games, but when you need to remember 40 steps and upgrades, I give up pretty quickly.

Edit: after rereading the title, my question seems pretty silly asking about a grand strategy game. Just curious if there are different modes available that aren't as immersive.
According to some stuff I've read, EU5 will allow players to mostly automate a lot of functions, but I expect they'll still be super complicated games.
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PvL-Vorbeck07 said:

I actually feel your pain. I'm in the same boat. I have Crusader Kings 2, Hearts of Iron 3, and Europa Universalis 3 as well and haven't yet committed to them or played them much at all. I love the concept of the Grand strategy game but my problem is I don't have the time to invest in them any more.


This is me.

I buy these games and then spend 2 hours watching YT tuturial videos and decide they're too complex.

I have modified my habit now tho in that I only buy these games when they're on sale.
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Anyone jump into EU5 yet? First reviews are looking pretty favorable.
Kampfers
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Eliminatus said:

Anyone jump into EU5 yet? First reviews are looking pretty favorable.

I'd love to - unfortunately don't think my PC can handle it. Still rocking a 4690k. This may be what pushes me over the edge to finally build or buy a new PC, but the last time I checked, components were so outrageously expensive compared to when I last built (2013) that I was really turned off.
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Eliminatus said:

Anyone jump into EU5 yet? First reviews are looking pretty favorable.


I have played a few hours which translates into about 10 minutes of play after unpausing for the first time. I think is is pretty good, especially for just launching.

This version is veeeeeeery deep mechanically so it will take me quite a while to wrap my head around a lot of it. My biggest gripe so far is trade. It is complicated as hell and I have no idea what I am doing there.
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Kampfers said:

Eliminatus said:

Anyone jump into EU5 yet? First reviews are looking pretty favorable.

I'd love to - unfortunately don't think my PC can handle it. Still rocking a 4690k. This may be what pushes me over the edge to finally build or buy a new PC, but the last time I checked, components were so outrageously expensive compared to when I last built (2013) that I was really turned off.

This is exactly where I am at. Bout time for me to throw some cash around and finally do some upgrades as well. EU is the one that has always evaded me but fascinated me at the same time. I have more or less mastered HOI and am oish at CK but EU is still so daunting and never got stuck in to make it far enough to say I made a decent run at it. But eyeing this one hard of course....
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The Sun said:

Eliminatus said:

Anyone jump into EU5 yet? First reviews are looking pretty favorable.


I have played a few hours which translates into about 10 minutes of play after unpausing for the first time. I think is is pretty good, especially for just launching.

This version is veeeeeeery deep mechanically so it will take me quite a while to wrap my head around a lot of it. My biggest gripe so far is trade. It is complicated as hell and I have no idea what I am doing there.

This is still a common saying from EU4 players with thousands of hours of playing!
Quo Vadis?
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I have thousands of hours of playing eu4, and still have no clue how to do anything with anyone other than Portugal
 
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