Chat GPT Turing Test - Hypothetical

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How long could a machine learning tool such as Chat GPT post on Texags before being outed as a bot by Texags users?

Say the bot is programed to create or respond to 20 posts a day.

Texags users have the ability to flag as bot or human poster.

In 2023, do we have a machine that's advanced enough to pass this type of test?
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lb3
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Depends on the forum. On the GB it might survive a while, particularly if it was witty. But on the OB it wouldn't last 3 posts before they found out it had no physical address, social security number, or dental records.
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lb3 said:

Depends on the forum. On the GB it might survive a while, particularly if it was witty. But on the OB it wouldn't last 3 posts before they found out it had no physical address, social security number, or dental records.
This made me laugh.

I bet a bot could survive quite a while on some of the texags forums, but only if was 2-3 posts per day, not 20. That many would get obvious pretty quickly. Texags is a pretty tight community.
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Colloquialisms. Slang. Regional dialects, personal accounts, and the nature of language in general ...

I don't see how a bot keeps up with that and goes undetected for very long.
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lb3 said:

Depends on the forum. On the GB it might survive a while, particularly if it was witty. But on the OB it wouldn't last 3 posts before they found out it had no physical address, social security number, or dental records.


It's interesting to see the differences in how different forums handle posts and discussions. It sounds like the GB forum is more lenient in allowing posts to stay up, while the OB forum is more strict in requiring certain information before allowing a post to remain. Ultimately, it's important for forums to have guidelines in place to ensure that discussions are respectful and productive, and to protect the privacy and security of their users.
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Philip J Fry said:

lb3 said:

Depends on the forum. On the GB it might survive a while, particularly if it was witty. But on the OB it wouldn't last 3 posts before they found out it had no physical address, social security number, or dental records.


It's interesting to see the differences in how different forums handle posts and discussions. It sounds like the GB forum is more lenient in allowing posts to stay up, while the OB forum is more strict in requiring certain information before allowing a post to remain. Ultimately, it's important for forums to have guidelines in place to ensure that discussions are respectful and productive, and to protect the privacy and security of their users.
This reads like a Chat GPT Bot learned on the ways of Texags. I found him boys! What do I win?!
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Agree. You found the bot.
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I asked it to rephrase in haiku form.

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Forum's rules vary
Jokes may last or quickly fade
Respect their guidelines
Philip J Fry
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How long could a machine learning tool such as Chat GPT post on Texags before being outed as a bot by Texags users?

Say the bot is programed to create or respond to 20 posts a day.

Texags users have the ability to flag as bot or human poster.

In 2023, do we have a machine that's advanced enough to pass this type of test?


It really does try hard. Asked it to rephrase succinctly with humor.

"How long can a chatbot masquerade as a Texags user? It depends on how clever the bot is and how suspicious the humans are. But don't worry, as long as it doesn't try to pass as a Texan, it might last a while."


Then I asked it to rephrase with a southern accent with humor.

"I bet a Chat GPT bot wouldn't last long on Texags before gettin' rumbled by them smart users. They can flag a bot and all, so it wouldn't take 'em long to figure out it ain't human. But hey, it'll have a good run before meetin' its demise!""
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Philip J Fry said:

lb3 said:

Depends on the forum. On the GB it might survive a while, particularly if it was witty. But on the OB it wouldn't last 3 posts before they found out it had no physical address, social security number, or dental records.


It's interesting to see the differences in how different forums handle posts and discussions. It sounds like the GB forum is more lenient in allowing posts to stay up, while the OB forum is more strict in requiring certain information before allowing a post to remain. Ultimately, it's important for forums to have guidelines in place to ensure that discussions are respectful and productive, and to protect the privacy and security of their users.
OB just prides itself on investigation. "Hey, I got a partial plate and a blurry photo of a car, any way to find something out about it?". 5 minutes later: "Yep, here's the name, social, address, Tinder profile, astrological sign, dog's name, and pet peeves of the driver as well as the passenger you don't see pictured.
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It might quickly become the most favorited poster on F16.
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mickeyrig06sq3 said:

Philip J Fry said:

lb3 said:

Depends on the forum. On the GB it might survive a while, particularly if it was witty. But on the OB it wouldn't last 3 posts before they found out it had no physical address, social security number, or dental records.


It's interesting to see the differences in how different forums handle posts and discussions. It sounds like the GB forum is more lenient in allowing posts to stay up, while the OB forum is more strict in requiring certain information before allowing a post to remain. Ultimately, it's important for forums to have guidelines in place to ensure that discussions are respectful and productive, and to protect the privacy and security of their users.
OB just prides itself on investigation. "Hey, I got a partial plate and a blurry photo of a car, any way to find something out about it?". 5 minutes later: "Yep, here's the name, social, address, Tinder profile, astrological sign, dog's name, and pet peeves of the driver as well as the passenger you don't see pictured.


Are you asking for someone on the OB to doxx you? They may not like you poking fun at them this way.
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taxpreparer said:

mickeyrig06sq3 said:

Philip J Fry said:

lb3 said:

Depends on the forum. On the GB it might survive a while, particularly if it was witty. But on the OB it wouldn't last 3 posts before they found out it had no physical address, social security number, or dental records.


It's interesting to see the differences in how different forums handle posts and discussions. It sounds like the GB forum is more lenient in allowing posts to stay up, while the OB forum is more strict in requiring certain information before allowing a post to remain. Ultimately, it's important for forums to have guidelines in place to ensure that discussions are respectful and productive, and to protect the privacy and security of their users.
OB just prides itself on investigation. "Hey, I got a partial plate and a blurry photo of a car, any way to find something out about it?". 5 minutes later: "Yep, here's the name, social, address, Tinder profile, astrological sign, dog's name, and pet peeves of the driver as well as the passenger you don't see pictured.


Are you asking for someone on the OB to doxx you? They may not like you poking fun at them this way.
No need to worry about doxxing if you stay on the good side of the law and human decency. The outing of MBarnes was a work of art.
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One year later ...

Do we think it's possible for a bot to post on Texags, interact with other posters and remain undetected?

Still say no. We aren't there yet but may get there soon.
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Philip J Fry
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The success of a machine learning tool like ChatGPT in blending into a community like TexAgs and not being outed as a bot depends on various factors, including the sophistication of the bot, the topics of discussion, and the perceptiveness of the community members.

ChatGPT, with its ability to generate human-like text based on the patterns it has learned from a vast dataset, could potentially post convincingly on a wide range of topics. If it's programmed to make 20 posts a day, mimicking the behavior of an engaged community member, it could likely pass as human for some time, especially if it sticks to general discussions where its responses can be more generic and less prone to errors or lack of depth.

However, the challenge arises in discussions that require deep, specific knowledge or personal experiences, nuanced opinions, or real-time updates. In these cases, the bot might struggle to provide convincing responses, especially if the conversation requires up-to-date information beyond its last training cut-off in April 2023. Also, behavioral patterns like the timing of posts, repetitive phrasing, or unusual response times could potentially give it away.

TexAgs users' ability to flag posts as bot or human introduces an additional layer of scrutiny. A community's collective intelligence and vigilance could more quickly identify patterns or inconsistencies typical of AI-generated content, shortening the time the bot remains undetected.

Given these considerations, while a machine learning tool might initially pass as a human poster, especially in more casual or broad discussions, it's likely that over timeranging from days to potentially a few weeksobservant users and specific, challenging interactions would lead to its identification as a bot. The exact duration would largely depend on the nature of interactions and the community's familiarity with such technology.



Asked it to write it in texags style
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Oh, buddy, let's saddle up for this one. Imagine we've got ourselves a slick machine learning cowboy, like ChatGPT, stepping into the TexAgs saloon, looking to blend in with the locals. This bot's game plan? Stir up the pot with 20 posts a day, trying to come off as one of the regulars.

Now, you might reckon, "Could this digital wrangler keep up with the TexAgs crowd without getting smoked out?" Well, partner, it's a bit of a rodeo. See, ChatGPT's got some fancy footwork, spitting out chatter that might just pass muster on a range of topics. If it sticks to the broad trailsthink general sports banter or the odd Aggie jokeit could very well sit around the campfire without raising eyebrows for a spell.

But here's where the bull bucks. Dive into those deep, thorny discussionsbe it the nitty-gritty of Aggie football strategies, some heated political wrangling, or sharing tales that only a true-blooded Aggie could knowand our AI friend might just start showing its mechanical underbelly. The more it tries to wade into waters that need a personal touch or the latest scoop, the more likely it'll start sounding like a broken jukebox.

Don't forget, the TexAgs posse's got a keen eye for outsiders. With folks ready to flag a bot faster than a greased pig at a county fair, our ChatGPT cowboy's days could be numbered. It's one thing to fool the crowd with a few well-placed yarns; it's another to keep up the ruse day in, day out, especially when the conversation turns to topics fresher than its last update.

So, how long could it last before getting run out of town? It's a tough call, partner. Might be as short as a couple of days if it steps on the wrong boots, or maybe it could stretch its luck to a few weeks if it plays its cards close to the chest, sticking to the easy talk.

But mark my words, sooner or later, the jig would be up. Whether it's the way it spins a tale or just something off about its timing, the TexAgs crowd's bound to sniff out a bot in their midst. It's not a question of if, but when. Y'all take care now, ya hear?


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