Eliminatus said:

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Sooooo.....anyone have one of these yet?

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Had one since launch. Pretty incredible. It has its bugs to be sure, and it is a VR headset, and all of the typical drawbacks of that. Immersive videos are in incredible, and the spatial videos you can film of your family are pretty special, you feel like you are back in that moment. But mostly I travel a bunch, and can be a movie theatre/workstation in hotels and airplanes.

It was full price no subsidy when it launched. The subsidy wasn't introduced until 2008. The subsidized cost was still $200. Those subsidized phones also weren't actually subsidized when they were introduced. They forced you into a high cost service plan for 2 years, tacked on a termination fee that amortized for the duration of the two years. You were in reality paying off the phone over the duration of the contract and couldn't leave the contract without paying the termination fee, which was functionally paying off the balance of the phone that was "subsidized."

Then they kept the service fee at the higher price whether you got a new phone or not, so you were still paying for a new phone that you didn't actually buy, which induced people to sign a new 2 year agreement with a new termination fee so that people felt like they were actually getting something for their $99/mo service payment.

They got sued for the termination fees and had to change the structure of their contracts so that people were no longer signing two year contracts with termination fees, but rather paying for their phone service plan and then either buying the phone outright or doing a pay as you go plan that amortizes in the same way the old subsidized plans did, but at the end of it your payment falls to the service plan without a contract or you can re-up with a new pay as you go purchase.

It's not that fundamentally different, it's just significantly more transparent now and you're not getting effed if you don't get a new phone every 30 months.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2007/06/26AT-T-and-Apple-Announce-Simple-Affordable-Service-Plans-for-iPhone/

Unbiased observer checking in.

Zuck on the Apple Vision Pro

He's still got fire in him, love to see it pic.twitter.com/httIBlpZJX

— Sheel Mohnot (@pitdesi) February 13, 2024

He's not wrong. There's more to do on the Quest 3 than the Vision Pro currently.

GeorgiAg said:

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Unbiased observer checking in.

Zuck on the Apple Vision Pro

He's still got fire in him, love to see it pic.twitter.com/httIBlpZJX

— Sheel Mohnot (@pitdesi) February 13, 2024

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https://instagr.am/p/C3EiLFmr9gi

For my. money I trust TPain's review over Zuck's puffery.

I'll stick my Xreal Air for the next couple of years. Needs to mature.

I'm curious what the next Quest headset will be like. It'll improve quite a bit and probably still be relativity inexpensive.

Linus knocks it out of the park in his review he just dropped. It truly is worth the full watch IMO if you have any interest in this. I am biased, being a PC master race fella. That being said, I do have a fairly strong footprint in the Apple world and have been keeping an eye on this since it was announced.

To sum it up, I feel like his concluding thoughts match mine to the T. Admittedly, mine are vicariously lived through others right now as I still have not had hands on with it myself. It's incredible tech that should be applauded on the advancement of that alone. But, it also has no real place right now for the average consumer. Key words IMO, right now. A lot of reviewers are bashing it with "solution looking for a problem" which is not really the right way to view it I think. The VP is a platform, it is up to the consumers to work and create with it. Apples job now is to make sure those desires are continuing to be met. Most of the common problems right now, I have zero doubt will get cleaned up in due time. Most of them being software based currently.

So as of this current date, I still think it is a novelty, but with the continued growth and support of Apple, along with the massive feedback they are getting, they will get it dialed in. In a few years I am fairly certain this was not be a flop but a much more refined piece of gear that many will be able to use and justify the cost of it. (Also expect the cost to go down considerably in that time.

Again, all of this is just me watching second hand. How is it holding up to those who have one?