Lol. Hope you put in your 48 hour notice

joerobert_pete06 said:

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texAZtea said:

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joerobert_pete06 said:

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texAZtea said:

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If that's a big enough area that you think trophy deer will stay mostly inside of your allotment, why would the lease syndicate get tore up about someone not providing ample protein in their area?

It wouldn't affect me if I put out enough feed. Hell, it might even bring your bucks to my area if you don't.

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…. And so this encourages everyone to supplement feed in the off season

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Yeah that doesn't answer my question.

Either:
The hunting allotments are so large that there is very little crossover in deer and you should be able to shoot a monster buck you see for the first time at your stand because it lives in your allotment (which is against the lease agreement since someone else probably let it walk, as per the lease agreement). If this is true, it shouldn't matter to anyone else if I'm feeding in the off season or not since the deer in my allotment fairly well stay in my allotment (no one else's protein is going towards my trophy).

Or:
The hunting allotments aren't so large that there is little crossover, and if you take off your baby pants and shoot the buck you are seeing for the first time you might be shooting a buck that someone else has been feeding and watching for years.

You can't have lots that are large enough that the deer stay mostly in your lot but small enough that deer don't stay mostly in your lot. It's probably the second, since your lease agreement has all of those rules about everyone contributing feed, and the triumvirate having to approve your kill before you skin the buck, as stated in your lease agreement.

What it sounds like is you're an old timer on the lease and have had things go your way here and don't want to see some new guy mess up the sweet gig you've got and so you're willing to screw them over a little by having a say over what they can and can't shoot.

Or, you're the newcomer who bought the bs they fed you hook line and sinker and are defending it so hard because you're too embarrassed to admit you've been duped and are getting the short end of the stick while paying so much money.

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Bruh you are thinking to hard about it. You guys are asking me questions about the lease and I'm giving you my time to answer them

I have a family to spend time with now and prepare to head out to the lease tomorrow to shoot some pigs.

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Don't shoot the multi colored pigs. Those are considered show pigs and need special notary approval from Mitch.

Bruh, enjoy your time with your family but it seems like you're not thinking enough.

Unless you're the old guy running this thing and raw dogging the new guys, in which case, congrats on the set up.

This is one of the few threads that gets better with age.

AggieJames09 said:

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Funny story from last season. I had a very well known deer at my stand for two years. He was a solid buck that I was extremely confident in being post mature. I sent a video and probably ten pics of him to biologist saying I have this deer at 7 plus Years old.
He responded, "You May be right but based on those pictures I have him at 4 or 5 wouldn't hurt to let him go."

I tried sharing pics all the time but most our lease members were not great with cell phones, pics, texting... I had to talk about that deer 50 times....

He wondered off during the rut and went to an old guys blind on our lease. He sent one pic of same deer to biologist and got the "shoot him text, he's old".

He shot the deer I passed countless times and teeth aged at 8 plus. I was Very happy for him, no BS but all I could do was laugh.

Absolute clown world you have to depend on a guy looking at pics on the toilet on his little cell phone to age a deer better then yourself with 25 years of hunting your butt off in the brush country studying these deer every weekend with countless trail cam pics.

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That is EXACTLY what I assumed was happening from the very beginning of this thread after reading about that approval requirement. Thanks for sharing.

joerobert_pete06 said:

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texAZtea said:

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joerobert_pete06 said:

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texAZtea said:

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If that's a big enough area that you think trophy deer will stay mostly inside of your allotment, why would the lease syndicate get tore up about someone not providing ample protein in their area?

It wouldn't affect me if I put out enough feed. Hell, it might even bring your bucks to my area if you don't.

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…. And so this encourages everyone to supplement feed in the off season

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Yeah that doesn't answer my question.

Either:
The hunting allotments are so large that there is very little crossover in deer and you should be able to shoot a monster buck you see for the first time at your stand because it lives in your allotment (which is against the lease agreement since someone else probably let it walk, as per the lease agreement). If this is true, it shouldn't matter to anyone else if I'm feeding in the off season or not since the deer in my allotment fairly well stay in my allotment (no one else's protein is going towards my trophy).

Or:
The hunting allotments aren't so large that there is little crossover, and if you take off your baby pants and shoot the buck you are seeing for the first time you might be shooting a buck that someone else has been feeding and watching for years.

You can't have lots that are large enough that the deer stay mostly in your lot but small enough that deer don't stay mostly in your lot. It's probably the second, since your lease agreement has all of those rules about everyone contributing feed, and the triumvirate having to approve your kill before you skin the buck, as stated in your lease agreement.

What it sounds like is you're an old timer on the lease and have had things go your way here and don't want to see some new guy mess up the sweet gig you've got and so you're willing to screw them over a little by having a say over what they can and can't shoot.

Or, you're the newcomer who bought the bs they fed you hook line and sinker and are defending it so hard because you're too embarrassed to admit you've been duped and are getting the short end of the stick while paying so much money.

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Bruh you are thinking to hard about it. You guys are asking me questions about the lease and I'm giving you my time to answer them

I have a family to spend time with now and prepare to head out to the lease tomorrow to shoot some pigs.

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what did bradjerrymark say about the black one with stripes - 2.5 yo? Or have to wait another year?

I'd have to go back and look but I'm pretty sure rule # 173 on page 22 said no hogs or javelina in off season. I've had way too many drinks since then but I'm confident we were not allowed to shoot predators in the off season. (They subleased our pasture to predator hunters in off season). Got yelled at for shooting a coyote once.

We always had to get permission to enter the ranch if it was not legal hunting season. I could go on and on with the BS I got in trouble with my two years out there. Felt like I was in 5th grade all over again in the Principle office almost every weekend.

The land owners have their own pastures to hunt. The whole walker ranch is unreal big. We only had 5500 acres of their land. I never met or saw the landowners my two years out there personally.

One of the rules was actually I was not allowed to talk to them about anything going on. All official ranch business was to be communicated through lease boss to ranch owner, cattle manager or biologist. No communication allowed between members and them!

My buddy that was on my pasture with me. One time he got in trouble for giving the ranch owner a cold beer that they asked for! I'm not lying, this is real life. I have Stories for days I can only laugh about now.

this thread/story will never die!

We ran off OP by page 2, the obvious sock on page 4, and a lease member apologist by page 7.

What's next?

texAZtea said:

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We ran off OP by page 2, the obvious sock on page 4, and a lease member apologist by page 7.

What's next?

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1) Lease member shoots a hog in the nuts this weekend and is kicked off
2) MFBarnes shows up and pretends to be BradJerryMitch (or whatever their name is)
3) Someone creates a sock account and pretends to sell day hunts on this exact ranch

The lease rules repeat "Brad Jerry Mitch" umpteen times. It's alphabetical order! Where is the g'damn decal signup??

Fiduciary said:

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The lease rules repeat "Brad Jerry Mitch" umpteen times. It's alphabetical order! Where is the g'damn decal signup??

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I need to edit my response above to include:

4) someone updates their signature to, "This message was approved by Brad Jerry and Mitch"

texAZtea said:

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joerobert_pete06 said:

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texAZtea said:

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If that's a big enough area that you think trophy deer will stay mostly inside of your allotment, why would the lease syndicate get tore up about someone not providing ample protein in their area?

It wouldn't affect me if I put out enough feed. Hell, it might even bring your bucks to my area if you don't.

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…. And so this encourages everyone to supplement feed in the off season

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Yeah that doesn't answer my question.

Either:
The hunting allotments are so large that there is very little crossover in deer and you should be able to shoot a monster buck you see for the first time at your stand because it lives in your allotment (which is against the lease agreement since someone else probably let it walk, as per the lease agreement). If this is true, it shouldn't matter to anyone else if I'm feeding in the off season or not since the deer in my allotment fairly well stay in my allotment (no one else's protein is going towards my trophy).

Or:
The hunting allotments aren't so large that there is little crossover, and if you take off your baby pants and shoot the buck you are seeing for the first time you might be shooting a buck that someone else has been feeding and watching for years.

You can't have lots that are large enough that the deer stay mostly in your lot but small enough that deer don't stay mostly in your lot. It's probably the second, since your lease agreement has all of those rules about everyone contributing feed, and the triumvirate having to approve your kill before you skin the buck, as stated in your lease agreement.

What it sounds like is you're an old timer on the lease and have had things go your way here and don't want to see some new guy mess up the sweet gig you've got and so you're willing to screw them over a little by having a say over what they can and can't shoot.

Or, you're the newcomer who bought the bs they fed you hook line and sinker and are defending it so hard because you're too embarrassed to admit you've been duped and are getting the short end of the stick while paying so much money.

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He's Jerry.

Reference the meat processing thread; he only needs permission from Brad/Mitch.

ttha_aggie_09 said:

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Fiduciary said:

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The lease rules repeat "Brad Jerry Mitch" umpteen times. It's alphabetical order! Where is the g'damn decal signup??

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I need to edit my response above to include:

4) someone updates their signature to, "This message was approved by Brad Jerry and Mitch"

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I sent a group shot to verify. We are good.

This thread has blown me away since I just found it in the last 48 hours. Don't get me wrong-you do you and I will do what I want to do. That I get. But wow. I fill my tags and they fill their tags. But it could not possibly be more opposite beyond that simple fact.

Imagine meeting a couple of these guys at a bar and strike up a hunting conversation. I would need someone there to help me through it.

I am not sure what exactly they are trying to accomplish. But I do know that it is the complete opposite of what my family accomplishes every season. And I just for the life of me cannot understand the appeal of a place like that.

That's not my definition of outdoors, or ethical hunting, or enjoying nature, or hanging out with friends, or family, or loving nature and teaching others, or even really healthy for a herd of deer. It is everything mindset I detest, then given shots of steroids.

I just don't get the goal. Or the mission statement or whatever they are trying to accomplish. It baffles me. And I know somewhere deep in their dark souls they have the same instinct to hunt prey that I do. But it ends there.

Going to go back to watching. Hope the dude that willingly subjects himself to this nonsense comes back to the thread tomorrow.

agsalaska said:

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This thread has blown me away since I just found it in the last 48 hours. Don't get me wrong-you do you and I will do what I want to do. That I get. But wow. I fill my tags and they fill their tags. But it could not possibly be more opposite beyond that simple fact.

Imagine meeting a couple of these guys at a bar and strike up a hunting conversation. I would need someone there to help me through it.

I am not sure what exactly they are trying to accomplish. But I do know that it is the complete opposite of what my family accomplishes every season. And I just for the life of me cannot understand the appeal of a place like that.

That's not my definition of outdoors, or ethical hunting, or enjoying nature, or hanging out with friends, or family, or loving nature and teaching others, or even really healthy for a herd of deer. It is everything mindset I detest, then given shots of steroids.

I just don't get the goal. Or the mission statement or whatever they are trying to accomplish. It baffles me. And I know somewhere deep in their dark souls they have the same instinct to hunt prey that I do. But it ends there.

Going to go back to watching. Hope the dude that willingly subjects himself to this nonsense comes back to the thread tomorrow.

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This is the outcome when you make every single thing about getting every last little inch of rack, all other considerations be damned. When the hunt is completely about getting a huge rack from beginning in April 1 to the close of hunting whenever Mitch and Brad say so, you can forget about the enjoyment of the hunt, hanging around with buddies, etc. Everything is about the horns, and it is the attitude that just turns me off completely.

joerobert_pete06 said:

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I'm back, got my fix on last night

I'm the newcomer on the lease but hunted the area my entire youth on my family property. I also posted my 48hr rule two weeks ago and BMJ gave me the go ahead on the pigs. In fact the motto at the campsite is APMD


All Pigs Must Die

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I like BJ M acronym better Also if APMD. How does that happen if you have to ask for permission 48 hours in advance

joerobert_pete06 said:

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You are not making sense. The 48hr rule is to go onto the landowners property and has nothing to do with shooting animals

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Glad you had good family time. That looks delicious.

I have a really, really simple question. If you're paying for exclusive access to designated areas of the property and nothing else nefarious is going on... what reason could possibly exist for a 48 hour notification/permission rule?

Found another copy of the rules online.

https://southtexashunting.wixsite.com/east-and-west-slator/rules