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Minimum KE for archery

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BCO07
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My oldest is wanting to take a deer this year with his bow. He's been competing for a few years and I'm confident he can make a good shot inside of 20 yards. He's only pulling back 40 lbs with a ke on his arrow of 23 which feels light even for scrawny texas does. What would yall use for a minimum ke on texas white tail
cochrum
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I hunt with a longbow and 40lbs is enough, so I believe he will be fine with a compound. Make sure the arrow is well tuned and he should be good to go!
tandy miller
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I'd agree that 23# seems light. I'd think high 20's to low 30's would be the bottom end.

Could mitigate somewhat with a heavier arrow and fixed blade cut on contact broadhead. Even then, I'd want shots closer to 10 yards.

What is his setup (bow model, draw length, arrow model)?
FJB
tandy miller
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cochrum said:

I hunt with a longbow and 40lbs is enough, so I believe he will be fine with a compound. Make sure the arrow is well tuned and he should be good to go!


KE is KE… I don't believe that being shot out of a compound vs recurve makes any difference since speed is already accounted for in the formula
FJB
tandy miller
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Also, are you sure that KE is correct? That's only moving 260 grains 200 fps, which seems slow even for 40#
FJB
CS78
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What grain head? Try the wasp sharpshooter steel 150 grn. Small heavy cut on contact designed for Trad.

https://www.wasparchery.com/product/sharpshooter-traditional/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2Pvp1KvAiQMV6iFECB2JkzOMEAQYASABEgJYXfD_BwE
BCO07
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He's shooting a mission radik that's maxed out. The only thing I can do is increase his draw length, but I'm not sure how much I can add. Maaaaaybe another half inch
BCO07
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If I add a 125 head the speed drops off to the point that it's the same ke
CS78
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BCO07 said:

If I add a 125 head the speed drops off to the point that it's the same ke


Better momentum though which is more important than KE. Id set him up with 150s and the feeder at 12-13 yards and a single pin.
CS78
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Are you sure your numbers are right? My daughter is only pulling 32lbs and is shooting 426 grains at 150fps.

She's not hunting yet because her consistency isn't quite there.
tandy miller
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Is she tall for her age? Draw length lends itself to speed as much as weight
FJB
CS78
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25"
BCO07
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Difference in momentum is minimal. 0.2585 vs 0.2506
BCO07
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Those numbers is what I he got at the bow shop chrono and scale
tandy miller
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What is our son's DL?
FJB
S.A. Aggie
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BCO07 said:

Those numbers is what I he got at the bow shop chrono and scale

Is that arrow weight with the hunting broad head included?
BCO07
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23"
BCO07
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It's with a 100gn field tip
tandy miller
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His shorter dl is costing him a bunch of speed compared to CS78's daughter

FJB
BCO07
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Right, from what I can tell it's 10 fps or more per in. I'm going to see if he can handle a longer draw
Furlock Bones
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I'd go heavier broadhead. he's not shooting far. give him some mass to push through.
Furlock Bones
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also, get a fixed blade broadhead that you can sharpen and a leather strop. get those blades as sharp as possible.
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