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That's the hard part. They are being overwhelmed with resources at this moment.

But, in a month, 2 moths, 6 months, 12 months- can we still figure out of to get them what they need?
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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18ej5v5p3L/

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Starting to get a lot of first hand accounts. Directly hearing them myself. The camps had some warning and were doing things like moving canoes and waterside chairs up as early as 1am. The slow start to the event in my opinion contributed here as the real rush was 2.5+ hrs later.

It certainly sounds like they planned to move kids to the point at which there was lifetime flood levels and executed that. Then more than lifetime water came in and then some.

The surprise was perhaps not all the rising water was from the river. The water was described as coming from the mountain by one I heard. Which I suppose is possible. So they would try to climb up but water was pouring from above making the trails and roads up harder to manage

Sounds absolutely terrifying on all accounts.
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trouble said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18ej5v5p3L/

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thanks. That's the first girl I've seen from the original "Twins Cabin" group.
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trouble said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18ej5v5p3L/

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Good grief. If you're a random person tempted to text or call people's parents….don't.
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You'd think that would be common sense, right?

Unfortunately, common sense isn't a flower that grows in everyone's garden.
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(deleting and going to repost - July 7)
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culdeus said:

Starting to get a lot of first hand accounts. Directly hearing them myself. The camps had some warning and were doing things like moving canoes and waterside chairs up as early as 1am. The slow start to the event in my opinion contributed here as the real rush was 2.5+ hrs later.

It certainly sounds like they planned to move kids to the point at which there was lifetime flood levels and executed that. Then more than lifetime water came in and then some.

The surprise was perhaps not all the rising water was from the river. The water was described as coming from the mountain by one I heard. Which I suppose is possible. So they would try to climb up but water was pouring from above making the trails and roads up harder to manage

Sounds absolutely terrifying on all accounts.


From what I read the water that they thought was coming from mountains were coming from the streams above them. You can see them on the map. That was entirely unexpected and from what I understand completely unprecedented. So to them it cut off any escape beyond their normal plan.

At least that's how I understood it.

Terrifying.
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Thanks for the links. My wife and I did quite a bit of volunteering after Harvey, but that was almost all sheetrock and carpet removal, etc. We'll Iook into will look into TEXSAR and definitely help with animal needs and fostering.

Welcome to TexAgs, and again thank you for the conntribution.
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KTRH out of Houston (whom I consider a reliable source) just gave the total confirmed at 91. They did not elaborate.
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agsalaska said:

culdeus said:

Starting to get a lot of first hand accounts. Directly hearing them myself. The camps had some warning and were doing things like moving canoes and waterside chairs up as early as 1am. The slow start to the event in my opinion contributed here as the real rush was 2.5+ hrs later.

It certainly sounds like they planned to move kids to the point at which there was lifetime flood levels and executed that. Then more than lifetime water came in and then some.

The surprise was perhaps not all the rising water was from the river. The water was described as coming from the mountain by one I heard. Which I suppose is possible. So they would try to climb up but water was pouring from above making the trails and roads up harder to manage

Sounds absolutely terrifying on all accounts.


From what I read the water that they thought was coming from mountains were coming from the streams above them. You can see them on the map. That was entirely unexpected and from what I understand completely unprecedented. So to them it cut off any escape beyond their normal plan.

At least that's how I understood it.

Terrifying.
When my house flooded (not this flood) it was a rising creek flash flood. The water coming in was a weird phenomenon. You would imagine it coming up from the creek through doors/windows. In reality it kind of surrounded the house first and then came up from the floor. It just came up and kept rising, yes it was moving, but in the house it just felt like it was rapidly rising. You would look around and then all the sudden it was a few inches higher.
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trouble said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18ej5v5p3L/

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Have you seen anything on Molly Dewitt?
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allgoaton said:

Bubble Inn girls confirmed perished as of midday Monday. All approx 8 years old, rising 3rd graders.
Lila Bonner
Janie Hunt
Sarah Marsh
Eloise Peck
Renee Smajstria
Linnie McCown
Anna Margaret Bellows
Lainey Landry
Linnie McCown
Wynne Naylor
Mary Stevens
Chloe Childress (counselor)

Katherine Feruzzo (counselor) and Abby Pohl's families posted recently that their daughter is still among the missing.

Two bubble inn campers I have not seen verified 100% either way.

Twins cabin campers confirmed perished:
Hadley Hannah
Hanna and Rebecca Lawrence
Mary Katheryn Jacobe (not confirmed she was in Twins but she would be correct age)

Mary Grace Baker, Virginia Hollis, Kellyanne Lytal, Blakely McCrory, Margaret Sheedy, Cile Steward, Greta Toranzo all unaccounted for as of at least Sunday. All in Twins other than Greta who apparently was in Jumble House.
This is tough. I don't personally know any of the girls or anyone affected, but seeing all the pictures and the stories, especially Dermdocs, has made me close to tears a couple of times. And I don't cry. Couple of times I found myself asking God why. But I'm at peace knowing that I don't need the answer. He is good and that is all that matters. I'm still heartbroken right now though. Continuing to pray. Maybe we get a miracle.
"I am going fishing" - John 21:3
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This shows 25 campers/counselors.

The notification from the camp website stated 27 total.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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dyer04 said:

Have you seen anything on Molly Dewitt?


She is one where I haven't seen it confirmed either way whether she has been recovered.
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dubi said:

trouble said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18ej5v5p3L/

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Every one of these little girls is so cute. Breaks my heart. Ever since this happened on Friday every time I see a little girl around that age I get so sad. I think of my daughter - now 30 - who did her first year of Hill Country camp at Mystic at age 8 then switched to Camp Longhorn the next summer - and can't even began to adequately imagine how much of a mental and physical wreck I would be if that were her in this picture. Please God help all of these families...
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Some girls were never announced as missing. Mary Kate and the Lawrence twins were never announced at the intensity the other girls were. Some families didn't release names and pictures. I'm guessing there are a few more girls, especially in Twins, that will only be identified to media once they have been found.
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Sticks&Stones said:

KTRH out of Houston (whom I consider a reliable source) just gave the total confirmed at 91. They did not elaborate.


All of Texas.
It’s better to be the hammer than the anvil.
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allgoaton
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There are likely a couple children whose parents did not initially put out photos/info about their child. I can add them to the list if we know any other names. I also accidentally added a child twice and corrected it
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They say things hit you different as a parent. As a dad with a 9 year old daughter, I didn't realize how understated that could be. Praying for everyone involved.
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JDUB08AG said:

They say things hit you different as a parent. As a dad with a 9 year old daughter, I didn't realize how understated that could be. Praying for everyone involved.
My daughter just turned 30. The last few days I can only see her as an 8-year old.
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JDUB08AG said:

They say things hit you different as a parent. As a dad with a 9 year old daughter, I didn't realize how understated that could be. Praying for everyone involved.
I think anyone with a heart is feeling some sort of grief right now. Like, trouble and her family are spending the night at my house on Wednesday night, and I know that we are going to bawl when we see each other. It feels silly because I don't have any direct link to this tragedy except that I'm a mom and a Texan. The mood everywhere you go is somber.

I just can't express how sorry I am that anyone has to go through this. From the cleanup crews to the guys dishing out food to those in need, this whole situation is just so damn sad.

I am praying several times a day and hoping that God and the Holy Spirit are there for everyone in this time of need.
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JDUB08AG said:

They say things hit you different as a parent. As a dad with a 9 year old daughter, I didn't realize how understated that could be. Praying for everyone involved.
wait til your daughters have grand babies, is a horrible situation for sure. I know your prayers are appreciated.
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Sarah Marsh reminds me so much of my 3 year old. It's the mischievous smile and the little curls across the forehead. I just keep coming back to her image
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What happened to the video of the time-lapse of the flooding near LLano River near Kingsland?

Was it not legit or from a different flood event?
Aldo the Apache
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Caught myself crying in the airport this morning. All deaths hurt, but just can't stop thinking about those kids.
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culdeus said:

Starting to get a lot of first hand accounts. Directly hearing them myself. The camps had some warning and were doing things like moving canoes and waterside chairs up as early as 1am. The slow start to the event in my opinion contributed here as the real rush was 2.5+ hrs later.

It certainly sounds like they planned to move kids to the point at which there was lifetime flood levels and executed that. Then more than lifetime water came in and then some.

The surprise was perhaps not all the rising water was from the river. The water was described as coming from the mountain by one I heard. Which I suppose is possible. So they would try to climb up but water was pouring from above making the trails and roads up harder to manage

Sounds absolutely terrifying on all accounts.


I heard a first hand account that came from a camp counselors Daughter this morning, absolutely terrifying and you have to pray for the girls that didn't make it. The counselor was saved when she was rescued out of a tree.after 8-9 hours. Our friends daughter made it but some of her kids did not. Sad, RIP
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There are a lot of people hurting who will need long-term support.

I can't speak enough about how important a Christian grief counselor has been to me over the years when I have experienced tragic loss. Please speak up and reach out if you need help.
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agracer said:

What happened to the video of the time-lapse of the flooding near LLano River near Kingsland?

Was it not legit or from a different flood event?


Time-lapse captures fast-rising river in Texas https://share.google/4zLLPiTBL24rGyasA
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Duckhook said:

agracer said:

What happened to the video of the time-lapse of the flooding near LLano River near Kingsland?

Was it not legit or from a different flood event?


Time-lapse captures fast-rising river in Texas https://share.google/4zLLPiTBL24rGyasA

There was an earlier video of that from the perspective of the people on that far side roadway, stepping back as the water headed their way. Disturbing from both viewpoints.
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Pretty incredible how much the impact of this reaches across the state. Good friend of mine here in the RGV has a grand-niece from the Dallas area that is one of the confirmed deceased. Another good friend from Waco has a house in Hunt that I've been to a number of times. I texted with him on Friday when this all started happening and he and his house were safe. Talked to him this morning. He grew up in Kerrville and personally knows some of the deceased. He left on Saturday and said he and his wife were just crying the whole way out as they drove along the river.
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LB12Diamond said:

This shows 25 campers/counselors.

The notification from the camp website stated 27 total.
Actually 24...Linnie is up there twice.
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JDUB08AG said:

They say things hit you different as a parent. As a dad with a 9 year old daughter, I didn't realize how understated that could be. Praying for everyone involved.
We have an 18 month old, I never really thought much about what he will do during his future summer breaks but I went to Mystic and my brothers Stewart, I had always just assumed it would be an option. After this, I don't know how I will ever let him leave my sight again and breathe. I'm mid 30's, younger than the 1987 flood, but I remember how nervous my dad was for me to go to camp. "If you see water you make the driver stop! You DO NOT allow ANYONE to drive you across a bridge with moving water. EVER." I remember thinking what a strange talk that was and silently saying "I'm not going to do that! that's so weird!"

I found out this weekend he volunteered after that bus stalled. I can't imagine the anxiety he must have had while we were on those busses all those years. There were years he refused to let us on because "the weather looks bad" and he would drive us. I was never allowed on church busses, ever. I was NEVER allowed to road trip with friends, he would drive me or I would fly and meet friends there. I hated it, I was a kid who wanted to fit in and that was the exact opposite of what he allowed. I remember thinking how dramatic it felt, how unnecessarily over protective.

Today, I get it. As of this weekend, I feel the exact same. I don't know how you live when your child, your limb, is taken from you.

To those who have lost and to those who are still looking, we weep with you and we pray for you.
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