ghollow said:
35chililights said:
ghollow said:
The school my wife works at has a number of ex-military teachers. I have always thought they would be great security if they were allowed to conceal carry.
Retired military folks would probably make good security guards as well.
While I'd love to agree with you, some ex-military folks I've met are the worlds worst at the mindset needed for the protection of others. Some civilians are much more mentally equipped to fill that role.
Sorry you misunderstood my post. My point was that there are a bunch of retired military folks who would love to help out in this capacity. They would, of course, have to be vetted and be able to handle the job. I am not suggesting that they use some retired vets that have issues that would prevent them from being around kids and/or being able to fulfill these duties.
Most retired military guys I know, and I know a lot, are a great bunch of guys and love giving back to there communities.
The problem with these conversations (especially on boards like this) is people look at it as if their personal opinions make up for lack of awareness of reality. There's other things involved that most don't understand because they're just keyboard warrioring it as if only their kids are involved.
Insurance has requirements and a cost for making up in house security versus hiring professionals. Certified security companies that specialize in private school security have a hard time meeting the requirements for insurance. And most of them just saw a substantial increase in rates because of all the "school shootings" of the last year.
Volunteer watchdog / armed teachers / armed parents / off duty law enforcement sound great from a personal perspective until the first firearm is left unattended by accident, first negligent discharge, or the first time police investigate a trespassing / incident on campus and the school can no longer control the narrative. When something doesn't go perfectly, there's going to be investigations, emotionally irate parents, tv stations, and insurance issues. Not to mention the threat of lawsuits. Even if no one is injured. And all the above has a much greater chance to happen than anyone realizes because any competent school is going to keep as much of these quite if possible.
I used to be on a private school, school board. We went through all the things discussed on here. Had lots of small incidents and several real incidents that brought it all to only one clear option. Certified, insured, and bonded armed securities companies with experience at other private schools that were willing to place good officers there year round to build rapport and communication and were willing to be a part of the overall security / emergency part planning and action. The guards interact and learn the families and kids. They greet them on the way onto campus in the morning. They are part of the community and care about the kids they are there to protect.
We area 400-450 student school with more than 50 acres. Maintaining the property parameter, having one guard at the gated main entrance and one either patrolling the grounds or at the main office has worked the best for us from 1 hour before school until after the last activity is over. Then we augment with additional for events.
