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a07nathanb
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Through the years I've bought 3 tractors off of marketplace. If you watch it long enough in your area you learn who the flippers are. What I've had success with is waiting around until I find a person upgrading or selling out. There's still good people you can trust to buy from used if you've got time and patience
allMondjoy
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Buy more hp than needed (no lesd than 50-75 hp). 6 OR 7 foot shredder, grappler a must!
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Reporting from clients, golf buddies in-the-know, so take with a grain of salt
NEW with a repair plan, i.e. anything goes wrong, they fix it pronto and no time loss to production, last longer

Never USED ... just like work trucks, there's a reason they are dumping it and you may find out WHY when too late and invested but maybe that's just Brazos Co SOP?

Quality of Tires Important
Service pros ON SITE Important, not "from Houston every other Tuesday"
Wrecker service
Now .... the jobs & implements, then the HP b/c more = more years it lasts
Gotta draw since me got no grammar MasterArch '76
Sam Williams
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Check the TexAgs classified forum. There are 2 kubota tractors and a 72" bush hog listed for sale
coolerguy12
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I got one from a guy liquidating due to a divorce. Had 111 hours and 3-4 years old. Came with a 20' 14,000# trailer.

I've put 250 hours on it in 3 years and it's been fantastic other than chewing through AC belts. Have to keep the tensioner tight.

Used can be a risk but there are also great deals out there if you're patient.
schmellba99
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oh no said:

Thank yall. How about hydrostatic transmission? Worth it?

Hydrostat is the easiest to operate, by far and since you have a lot of woods/trees, it will be significantly more user friendly when shredding trails than a geared or shuttle shift.

The drawback is that hydrostat's have the lowest PTO hp output in the same size versus geared (highest) and shuttle shift. I have a Kubota L3800 HST that I do a lot of the same type of work you are talking about doing with, and the PTO shaft output is 33hp. A geared tractor would be about 35hp. Doesn't sound like a lot of difference, but it can be depending on what you are doing.

I didn't know squat about tractors when I bought my first one, and only know marginally more now, but i"ll share my 2 cents:

1. Get at least one HP class bigger than you really think you'll need in the same frame size. I went from a 24hp to a 38hp and there are more times than I care to admit that I wish I had 50hp. And get a Tier 3 engine if you can - no DEF nonsense, simpler and more reliable.
2. Used is fine, I bought mine used with about 400 hours on it. Haven't had a problem, but I also maintain it and try my best to not overwork it. Look at the dealers in your area and go with whatever major brand has a good service and parts department - you'll need them no matter what. Orange, green, etc. doesn't matter a whole lot IMO in terms of quality if it's a weekender use. I like the orange ones, but I also have a really good dealer just down the road for Kubota that is convenient and has damn near anything I need in stock.
3. Tires. They are a bigger deal than you think. Mine started with R1 ag tires, but I swapped them with another guy for R4 industrial tires. Ag are better at traction, but the R4 give me better stability due to their wider footprint. R14 is kind of a hybrid tire that is getting to be very popular that gives the best of both worlds, so look into those if you can.
4. Get a quick attach for your front end loader. Absolute must IMO.
5. Forklift attachment, box blade and shredder should be your first purchases. Auger next if you end up doing fence work. Grapple would be handy as well (I assume, I haven't bought one yet - most of the time forks work good enough) All can be had used for good prices off of marketplace if you keep your eye open and are prepared to jump on a deal when it pops up.
6. Third function so you can run hydraulics to your front end are great, but you need to make sure any attachment can run off of whatever you flow rate is. A lot of them require pretty significant flow that a mid size tractor won't be able to produce.
schmellba99
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Also - get 4wd, it is absolutey worth having it over not having it.
AgDad121619
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I didn't see a grapple in your initial list - you will use grapple 10 times or more than you will use the bucket. Clearing downed limbs and trees with grapple is well worth the extra cost
oh no
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Yes. I've been advised as such before and I believe it. Thank you.
MyNameIsJeff
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I'll actually counter this. I have a JD 4044M and priced out adding a grapple initially. I held off and instead just use my pallet forks for moving brush. You'll be surprised what you can accomplish. Give it a shot before spending a few grand on a grapple.
Agape91
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Agree that bigger is always better but consider this since property is for recreation now and "heavily wooded": Bigger tractor requires bigger trails. Cabs great in the open but be careful in the trees. You can always upgrade (or better get another) when you go from spending your weekends on the tractor to your weekdays. You have lots of good advice here. Good luck and enjoy the ever increasing equipment collection cycle that comes with land ownership.
oh no
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thanks for all the great advice everyone.

Quote:

local dealer quoted me a 25hp last spring, but now has seen my property and thinks I need at least 39hp and quoted me a 47hp machine as his best current "deal" and it gave me a bit of sticker shock.


^ I never got back to the guy on that 47hp one. It's with a FEL/ bucket, 4wd, but manual transmission. I guess it's a "deal" because it's a prior year's model still on the lot. Would have to add a shredder (at least, for now) and go buy a trailer to get it.

Everyone is saying go bigger... but I continue to debate with myself if I should spend much more time looking for a hydrostat one, or even go smaller (39hp) with hydrostat to offset the cost, or F it - get this one and practice until I'm comfortable, quick, and smooth at changing gears and directions with a clutch.
schmellba99
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You can do a lot of work with a 39hp tractor. I run a 6' shredder on mine and even through thick grass I have zero issues cutting. My shredder has chewed through plenty of yaupon and other woody things to about 3" thick as well. The only time it has bogged or stopped was hitting a massive ant pile that was as much mud as anything - that was something. We routinely mow ~30 acres of ROW and pasture at my deer lease with it with no problems.

I can't think of any 3 point attachment that I own that I have had any trouble operating.

Where it lacks for me is the lifting capacity on the FEL - I think it's something like 1100lbs on paper, but in reality it isn't that much. I'd venture to say it's closer to 850-ish if I want to go full height, and that's after I boosted the hydraulic pressure because Kubota is notorious for a pretty low factory setting. That comes into play if you are moving logs or bucket capacity when you are using it for sand, gravel, caliche, etc. The most I have been able to lift with it is about 1100lbs, but I also was only able to get it high enough to get it out of my truck - and just barely (it was a half pallet of CMU blocks). And I was puckered pretty good until it cleared the tailgate and I was able to lower it.

You can still do a lot of work with it, but you have to be aware of the limitations. But you'd have to be aware of them in any platform you get no matter what.
RM76
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There is a good deal on a John Deere 3038e on Texas Bow Hunters.com. 2018 model with under 300 hrs and extras.
oh no
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anyone know these guys?

https://www.asapequip.com/default.htm

Looks like they have a 35hp HST Yanmar for sale at 26k. and the same model with a 6' shredder available for rent at a $200 daily rate.
https://www.asapequip.com/Inventory/?/listings/for-sale/tractors/1100?DSCompanyID=69502&dlr=1&settingscrmid=15924270

could rent for 1-2 days, do some shredding, and buy the new one if i like it... service/support might be the concern with yanmar and this dealer?



will also reach out to a contact someone gave me at United Ag & Turf (JD dealer) on hwy 21 in Bryan.
oh no
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Q: if I only initially buy the things I know I'd use the most - FEL bucket and a rotary cutter/ shredder/ brush hog, where would one go to rent other attachments or implements for the one-off (for me) projects?

For example, for my vineyard, I'll initially want to:
build a perimeter fence: would like a post hole digger & auger for this one project only
rip/ subsoil the small (1k sq ft) plot: would need a ripper/ subsoiler
after spreading soil amendments, I think i'd need to disc and till: would need a disc harrow and a tiller

Other items, maybe once every several years, I'll want to have so many yards or loads of gravel delivered and spread on my driveway and would need a land plane or blade to spread and level it out to complete the drive repair

Maybe if i ever get around to building a figure 6 trap for hogs, i'll finally want to repair rooted and wallowed out trails: would need a pulverizer or box blade maybe?

..but I'm looking at rental options on some of the tractor dealer websites and other tool rental sites like Sunbelt, and it seems that places don't offer a lot of these attachments for rent. (?) it does look like sunbelt rents auger though.
SGrem
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Can buy used implements on CL.... do your project.... then sell again when done. Ive done that on a few things and didn't lose a penny.
Www.gowithgrem.com
oh no
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I see. Thank you.
Gunny456
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Watch equipment auction sites. Lots of times they have demo units or repo units with very little time on them and you can pick stuff up at really good deals.

I will also caution you on rental skid steer or tractor quick attachments that use hydraulics in some form or fashion.
You never know what oil or hydraulic fluid is in those hoses and cylinders from rental places. Not only can it be the wrong viscosity but also the wrong oil type all together.
So when you hook that attachment up and use it that hydraulic oil or oil will then contaminate your machines hydraulic system.
Not only can it be the wrong oil but it can be extremely dirty and even have contaminates such as metal shavings, etc. in it.
I rented a large cement mixer for the front of my skid steer once and filled my hydraulic filter up with sludge and metal shavings and had to flush my entire system.
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oh no
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Thanks! Damn. I have not even begun to contemplate dealing with various hydraulic components and systems. Sooo out of my element.

On another note, I briefly borrowed my wife's phone this evening since I don't have a face book account and browsed the market place on there. Saw some equipment that I may inquire about or go look at, but I wish I had saved off some links to show you guys to see what yall think if they're good deals or not! Haha.
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