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My son is turning 18 in a couple of months and I would like to get him a very nice rifle. He is left-handed. Thinking .270 or .308.
Anyway, numerous months ago there was a thread on here and I can't find it. I remember Gunny mentioning a company that was very proud of what they make, but also excellent quality. I'm willing to pay for a once in a life gift like this.
Can you guys help?
Maximus Johnson
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In order to comply with your username and provided that there is no budget to work with here is what I can provide:

https://www.gunwerks.com/
Max06
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Horizon Firearms

Southpaw Precision
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I'd holler at Cowdoc for a custom rifle from Southpaw Precision.

I'll be giving him a shout when the time comes for me to get one.

Others to check with would be West Texas Ordnance, Best of the West, Kross Custom Rifles or Horizon.
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Max06 said:

Horizon Firearms

Southpaw Precision
either are great. Southpaw is a current poster and would probably be my first call.
Big Bucks
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Username refers to antlers not cash!
And thank you all.
Maximus Johnson
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Those things are generally interchangeable LOL
shalackin
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Southpaw rifles look awesome and I have heard great things!

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if youre asking about caliber choice. between the two, i prefer the 308 - the bullet drop out to 500 yards is such you dont have to or barely leave the target to manage your bullet drop.



I mention this because not all of us (myself included) dont have the ability to adjust mils on the fly in the field.
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Can't reccomend soutthpaw enough!
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Do it.


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Great idea!

Go ahead and buy them the lifetime hunting/fishing license!

My kids are very thankful we were able to do this for their 18th birthday.
Gunny456
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I had recommended a couple of custom manufacturers from past experiences. One was Ryan Hoover in Fredericksburg, Texas but I understand he has since quit building custom rifles. Not positive on that.
The second was Chad at Red Desert Custom rifles in Rock Springs Wyoming. I am a traditionalist in that I like the true classic custom rifles with custom wood stocks. He is one of the few that still builds beautiful stocks out of blanks of wood on his custom rifles instead of generic composite stocks. I have seen his work and it's truly beautiful, albeit expensive.
If I didn't care about traditional wood furniture I would go with Cow Doc here on the OB….he builds quality rifles with a lot of pride in workmanship.
To me there is still something special about the traditional look and feel of a quality wood stock that truly makes the rifle a one of a kind. That's just me and is strictly a personal preference cause I'm an old.
Maybe you can talk Cow Doc into doing a custom wood stock too….that would be the best of both worlds then!
Here is the link on Red Desert Rifles if you want to explore that. It's worth it just to look at the beautiful wood imho. https://www.reddesertrifles.com/
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I'm partial to Horizon Firearms. They've done a few for me over the years.

.300win mag
.308
6.5 CM

I need one of their 22CMs




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OP shoot me an email and we can talk about your plans. You have lots of options for the gift you have in mind. Would be happy to help either way.
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Wood stock or GTFO
Big Bucks
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I will shoot you an email in the morning Cowdoc.

And I bought he and I both lifetime licenses before we moved out of state in 2020!

I really like the classic wood and have one .270 that I got from my dad. Love the look and lightweight of it. But my everyday .270 is a synthetic stock I bought in 1996 and has been an absolute killer. So I'm not married to wood!
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Gunny and I agree on most things……except wood stocks.
I have a never been fired Weatherby in my safe. It's so damned beautiful I likely won't ever take it to the field. What's the fun in that?

Years ago, I got turned on to synthetics and now carbon fiber. While I've not tested them head to head - my impression is the modern day stock like a McMillan leads to a more accurate rifle. Just my impression.

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Gunny456
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That would be a good fun study for someone to do. Compare a good graphite or composite stock to a properly bedded and floated wood stock with the same barrel and action for MOA for group size.
I've seen lots of very accurate rifles with both so it would be cool to do an unbiased test.
I hear what you're saying about composite/graphite stocks. Less effects of environmental temps/humidity etc. in addition to advantages of barrel and action bedding components/insets……wood takes a lot more work and care and $$$ to approach like results…..and it will never be as hardy.

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If you're looking at 308 or 270 I'd go with 6.5prc, basically the modern version of those calibers with a longer effective range with less drop and drift.

I got my son a lifetime license for his 18th.

Gunny456
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Here is a link to a really good, unbiased comparison of .308 Winchester, 6.5 Creedmore, and 6.5 PRC. Very good read and a pretty thorough comparison that shows pros and cons and data of each cartridge type.
https://www.americanhunter.org/content/head-to-head-6-5-prc-vs-308-winchester/
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Gunny456 said:

That would be a good fun study for someone to do. Compare a good graphite or composite stock to a properly bedded and floated wood stock with the same barrel and action for MOA for group size.
I've seen lots of very accurate rifles with both so it would be cool to do an unbiased test.
I hear what you're saying about composite/graphite stocks. Less effects of environmental temps/humidity etc. in addition to advantages of barrel and action bedding components/insets……wood takes a lot more work and care and $$$ to approach like results…..and it will never be as hardy.



Have to remember conditions up in the wet and cold and how it effects wood. I love the look but for unchangeable accuracy I will spend the money on a stock and bedding and accurizing.
And my go to is Hill Country Rifle in New Braunfels Tx.
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I'm a sucker for beautiful wood, so if I"m looking at something as an heirloom gun - wood all day for me.

I understand the appeal of a polymer stock, and have had them in the past, but over the last few years have gravitated back to wood stocks (nice wood) for bolt guns. If I was still out west and mountain hunting I'd definitely have a lighter rig with a polymer stock.

But it's damn hard to beat something that looks like this:

https://instagr.am/p/DRh3U5yEfoy
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I couldn't look at the picture but I'll bet it is a beautiful rifle…..and agree with you 100%.
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TX_COWDOC said:

I have a never been fired Weatherby in my safe. It's so damned beautiful I likely won't ever take it to the field. What's the fun in that?


It can go the other way with wood too. I have my grandfathers Savage 99 in 300 Savage. It was his only rifle. He deer hunted with it in at least three states. He certainly could have afforded a new deer rifle, but that Savage was always more than good enough for him.

Its wood is dinged and dented from the decades he used it. It was made in the late '40s, he bought it in the 1950s, and now its in my safe.

I would love to take it on a deer hunt in his memory. But it has some very concerning stress cracks in the stock that make me very hesitant to even take it to the range once or twice, much less on a hunt.

My oldest son is named after my grandfather, and I would love for him to also someday own and hunt with this rifle if he wanted to....but because of its damaged wood stock, even if he and I only hunt with it once each, at some point in our family history this heirloom will likely be relegated to a wall hanger, and its only two generations old.

I feel sad about that, which I know is goofy. Because in the end, its all just stuff. I have the same memories of my grandfather, whether I can use his rifle or not.

OP, whatever rifle you buy your son, in any caliber, with any furniture, someone with a keyboard will have a dumb opinion on the choices you made. Once you figure you what rifle he would like, pick an epic hunt for the two of you to go on together with it. If you have to spend less money on the rifle to swing the hunt....do it. That memory with you will mean more to him than the rifle ever will....imo.

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I mostly leave the wood stocks to my shotguns (excluding duck guns) but I do have a few wood stocked bolt guns. As I do believe you need a few classics in the safe, like my 541-s and Remington 700 in the rare 257 Robert's long action.

As far as recommendations I'd say go with southpaw or horizon personally. Caliber wise Im a big fan of .284, so a 7mm or 7prc would be my recommendation. With 6.5prc or 300wm being excellent choices on either side of the .284.



Big Bucks
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Cow Doc-email sent a few hours ago.

Agree on the nice hunt advice, want to do that.
We did get to fly back to Texas in October and he got to sit with my 80 year old dad and hunt one afternoon and got a doe then. They had a good time that afternoon which is what I was hoping for!
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OP, your a good Dad!!
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Amen Bender
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My 14 yo is going on his first solo trip to the deer blind this afternoon with a .257 Roberts.
Gunny456
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Bender. Not to derail the thread. Saw your comment about your grandfather's Model 99. I have a colleague that had an older Purdey shotgun that had the stock get cracked in a car wreck. It was a couple of cracks next to the receiver frame. He talked to the guys at Briley and they sent him to these guys.
When he got it back you couldn't even tell where the cracks had been and they did not change the old look of the stock at all.
He said they used high pressure to inject epoxy or such into it?
He uses the shotgun for five stand a lot and has never had the problem reoccur.
Might check it out. Perhaps they can fix it so you guys can continue to hunt with it and remembering your grandfather. https://lohmangunsmith.com/pages/stock-repair
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Lohman is a top notch smith. Not cheap but he does beyond excellent quality work.
Gunny456
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Good for you sir for wanting to get him a nice quality heirloom type of rifle. This is what it's all about in my book. This will be something that he can, in turn, pass down to his son/daughter, and them to theirs, and so on till perhaps someday it will be 100 plus years old.
Being with him on the first hunt with it will be memorable to him as another post said. But perhaps your son will then take his son or daughter on their first hunt with it and they do the same with their kids and it continues with that firearm for generations to come.
The memories are of the person..buts it's sure cool to be holding that old firearm knowing that family members hands also held it.
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I had an heirloom fox savage 20 ga shotgun repaired by this method and you can't tell where it was cracked originally. I expected to see a seam or something. Very impressed.
Gunny456
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Awesome!
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