One of my favorites, and if there ever was a perfect match of actor and character it was Robert Duvall as Gus. I can't imagine any other actor playing that part.
Words of wisdom from Gus McCrae
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There was only one thing that stopped me .... my wife.
Gawd Damn if that ain't the funniest sheet I've heard all day.
for the record, it was definitely senators, and not settlement
The older the violin, The sweeter the music.
You broke the law Jake.
If you ride with an outlaw, you die like an outlaw.
If you ride with an outlaw, you die like an outlaw.
onearmy,
you are correct. i confirmed it last night.
you are correct. i confirmed it last night.
well now that im done with classes...this thread has made me want to watch lonesome dove so it looks like ill be in front of the TV a little bit over break
" He's not a hard man to track, he leaves dead men where ever he goes."
" He's not a hard man to track, he leaves dead men where ever he goes."
I started the book last night. As many others have said, I like how the movie sticks so close to it, but it also gives you extra stuff that you automatically fold into the history of the characters.
If you really like the book you should read all four in the series. Lonesome Dove is #3. They are all good reads and fill in all of the details and back stories you miss. The other three are not as good Lonesome Dove but are definately worth reading. The others in chronological order are:
Dead Man's Walk
Comanche Moon
Lonesome Dove
Streets of Laredo
I bought them all from half priced books used.
Dead Man's Walk
Comanche Moon
Lonesome Dove
Streets of Laredo
I bought them all from half priced books used.
Streets of Laredo is pretty good, but P.I.??? After watching Lonesome Dove and getting a mental image of his character, well, I won't ruin it, but MattGigEm you know what I'm talking about.
Powerbiscuit...
That was Call that beat that guy with the rope. The guy was whipping newt b/c he wouldn't give up his horse (I think) and Call rode in and crashed into him w/ his horse.
[This message has been edited by bam02 (edited 12/13/2006 6:06p).]
That was Call that beat that guy with the rope. The guy was whipping newt b/c he wouldn't give up his horse (I think) and Call rode in and crashed into him w/ his horse.
[This message has been edited by bam02 (edited 12/13/2006 6:06p).]
it's been probably been 15 years since I read it and have since lost the book....I remember thinking that the scene in the saloon was quite a bit different in the book from the movie...
but I could be, and probably am, confusing scenes....
I have asked for the book again this year and look forward to re-reading it...
also on the Christmas list is "Gone To Texas" (I think that's the name of it), but it's the book that "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is based upon...hopefully that will be a pretty good read as well....hopefully I mentioned it early enough that someone was able to find it...
but I could be, and probably am, confusing scenes....
I have asked for the book again this year and look forward to re-reading it...
also on the Christmas list is "Gone To Texas" (I think that's the name of it), but it's the book that "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is based upon...hopefully that will be a pretty good read as well....hopefully I mentioned it early enough that someone was able to find it...
bam,
in that scene, i think call is beating the guy with a fire poker or branding iron...the he drops it to smash the guy's head against an anvil, but gus ropes him before he can do it.
Newt: "He was gonna kill that man, Gus!"
in that scene, i think call is beating the guy with a fire poker or branding iron...the he drops it to smash the guy's head against an anvil, but gus ropes him before he can do it.
Newt: "He was gonna kill that man, Gus!"
Neat stuff from Lonesome Dove. The bit-playing actor who got stabbed on the whiskey boat and thrown into the river works down the road from me. I enjoy his stories of the movie set.
wow. that is great. any stories to share?
Re-up.
Yeah, ancient, but a few of y'all are still here. My #1 is Augustus.
"Rye will do, provided it gets here quick."
Yeah, ancient, but a few of y'all are still here. My #1 is Augustus.
"Rye will do, provided it gets here quick."
Texas 1836 said:
And I came soooooooo close to getting to name my son Augustus.
There was only one thing that stopped me .... my wife.
Women .... ruin all our fun.
And a favorite scene of my favorite character from my favorite movie.
I caught mine in a moment of weakness…about 10 min after birth…and at least got a middle name of Augustus out of it.
Captain Call and Gus were based on the real life Charles Goodnight and Oliver Loving. You can read "Charles Goodnight Cowman and Plainsman" for the original story
https://www.amazon.com/Charles-Goodnight-Plainsman-Evetts-Haley/dp/0806114533/ref=mp_s_a_1_1
https://www.amazon.com/Charles-Goodnight-Plainsman-Evetts-Haley/dp/0806114533/ref=mp_s_a_1_1
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Id like to see some land that ain't been settled yet before I take up the rockin chair.
Aye God, Woodrow, it's been quite a party ain't it.
Robert Duvall was one of the best to ever ply his trade. Rest well sir.
Robert Duvall was one of the best to ever ply his trade. Rest well sir.
Well, you've always got your hoors....
The funniest line I think was Woodrow to Gus, "I can just see what kind of herd you and Jake Spoon would round up. A herd of *****s."
Edit: I guess Texags censors the common synonym for prostitutes.
Edit: I guess Texags censors the common synonym for prostitutes.
MattGigEm said:
If you really like the book you should read all four in the series. Lonesome Dove is #3. They are all good reads and fill in all of the details and back stories you miss. The other three are not as good Lonesome Dove but are definately worth reading. The others in chronological order are:
Dead Man's Walk
Comanche Moon
Lonesome Dove
Streets of Laredo
I bought them all from half priced books used.
I sit around and tell my wife, this is what happened with Newt, and this is who Woodrow ended up living with like it is real life.
The other books add so much more depth and history to the story.
powerbiscuit said:
it's been probably been 15 years since I read it and have since lost the book....I remember thinking that the scene in the saloon was quite a bit different in the book from the movie...
but I could be, and probably am, confusing scenes....
I have asked for the book again this year and look forward to re-reading it...
also on the Christmas list is "Gone To Texas" (I think that's the name of it), but it's the book that "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is based upon...hopefully that will be a pretty good read as well....hopefully I mentioned it early enough that someone was able to find it...
It was quite a bit different. The movie kept some of the highlights but significantly changed it and shrunk it down time wise.
Quite a few things in the movie are different from the book, but that's the nature of making a movie. The book is so much better (and the movie is damn good, make no mistake about it) because McMurtry goes into a lot of the background, details and thought processes you just can't convey in a movie.
The scene where Monkey John and Dog Face ambush Gus out on the prairie and he shoots Monkey John in the gut while he is dancing is also different from the book by quite a bit. But made for good cinema versus how the book was written.
schmellba99 said:powerbiscuit said:
it's been probably been 15 years since I read it and have since lost the book....I remember thinking that the scene in the saloon was quite a bit different in the book from the movie...
but I could be, and probably am, confusing scenes....
I have asked for the book again this year and look forward to re-reading it...
also on the Christmas list is "Gone To Texas" (I think that's the name of it), but it's the book that "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is based upon...hopefully that will be a pretty good read as well....hopefully I mentioned it early enough that someone was able to find it...
It was quite a bit different. The movie kept some of the highlights but significantly changed it and shrunk it down time wise.
Quite a few things in the movie are different from the book, but that's the nature of making a movie. The book is so much better (and the movie is damn good, make no mistake about it) because McMurtry goes into a lot of the background, details and thought processes you just can't convey in a movie.
The scene where Monkey John and Dog Face ambush Gus out on the prairie and he shoots Monkey John in the gut while he is dancing is also different from the book by quite a bit. But made for good cinema versus how the book was written.
I finally read the book a couple years ago.And have read it ten times since. The miniseries was great, but doesn't do the story justice imho.
The book does an impeccable job of capturing the human experience of every character.
What I found fascinating from the book that wasn't in the movie:
1. The history & dynamic between Gus and Call and calls thoughts about duty after gus's death
2. Lorrena's backstory and inner monologue. McMurtry understood women. lol
3. Gus's vanity and pettiness. Having to be the center of attention, jealous of pocampo. At every turn trying to **** Jake.
4. Creation of the hat creek sign. Humorous how it all got put together. The Wilbarger scenes may be my favorite dialogue.
Of course I don't know if I would enjoy the book as much without seeing the movie first and having a face to put with the characters. Gus may be the best
Portrayal by an actor in a movie ever. RIP
I always laugh about what he said about Texans in the movie Geronimo playing Al Seiber.
AgFutureman said:
You broke the law Jake.
If you ride with an outlaw, you die like an outlaw.
"Jake's too leaky of a vessel to put much hope in"
"Jake's always been a drifter. Any wind can blow him."
I would always remind my kids "the lesson of Jake Spoon". How easy it is to get caught up in the wrong crowd, and before you know it, it's too late.
powerbiscuit said:
…also on the Christmas list is "Gone To Texas" (I think that's the name of it), but it's the book that "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is based upon...hopefully that will be a pretty good read as well....hopefully I mentioned it early enough that someone was able to find it...
You are right, "Gone to Texas" was originally published as "The Rebel Outlaw: Josey Wales", then republished later under the new name.
That's the only western I love as much as "Lonesome Dove" and maybe the only one which I think the movie is an upgrade over the book. In the book, Josey's Indian friend was a serious character. The character played by Chief Dan George in the movie was awesome ( "I notice when you get to disliking someone they're not around long either").
I'm afraid Clint might be the next of the great ones to leave.
McInnis said:
The funniest line I think was Woodrow to Gus, "I can just see what kind of herd you and Jake Spoon would round up. A herd of *****s."
Edit: I guess Texags censors the common synonym for prostitutes.
Yeah, it got me too. Had to change the wording a bit.
McInnis said:
The funniest line I think was Woodrow to Gus, "I can just see what kind of herd you and Jake Spoon would round up. A herd of *****s."
Edit: I guess Texags censors the common synonym for prostitutes.
Texas 1836 said:Quote:
It's not dying I'm talking about, it's living.
And I think my favorite from the book/movie ...
Woodrow CallQuote:
I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it.
These are by far my 2 favorite quotes from the movie.
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