That is why, in general, a roundabout should have at least a 30 foot radius. If two cars approach the roundabout at about the same time, the car to the right goes first. If the car on the left is entering the roundabout then the car on the right yields. With a 30 foot radius, there is time for errors to be corrected.Cartographer said:
Y'all are funny.
If car too close, slow to stop, if necessary, at yield. if car also entering at other entrance or traveling in lane beyond your entrance, go.
chickencoupe16 said:
We need exponentially more roundabouts in this country. Not so sure about the diverging diamonds but I don't hate it as much as I used to. On that topic...
Is any lane here allowed to make a right turn on red?
GSS said:You do whatever you want, for your example. Mine is about roundabout use....chickencoupe16 said:
So if at a T-intersection there is a yield sign on the right (curb) and not on the left (roadway), I only yield to traffic from the right?
chickencoupe16 said:GSS said:You do whatever you want, for your example. Mine is about roundabout use....chickencoupe16 said:
So if at a T-intersection there is a yield sign on the right (curb) and not on the left (roadway), I only yield to traffic from the right?
And yet it still doesn't make sense.
GSS said:chickencoupe16 said:GSS said:You do whatever you want, for your example. Mine is about roundabout use....chickencoupe16 said:
So if at a T-intersection there is a yield sign on the right (curb) and not on the left (roadway), I only yield to traffic from the right?
And yet it still doesn't make sense.
Then you may be sitting at your T-intersection for a while, till you decide what to do..
doubledog said:
WJB is one of the main thoroughfare to downtown Bryan, it cannot stay the way they designed it.
It is one of those things that looks good on paper, but sucks when actually built.
I give it a year and it will be back they way it should be.
doubledog said:
WJB is one of the main thoroughfare to downtown Bryan, it cannot stay the way they designed it.
It is one of those things that looks good on paper, but sucks when actually built.
I give it a year and it will be back they way it should be.
PS3D said:doubledog said:
WJB is one of the main thoroughfare to downtown Bryan, it cannot stay the way they designed it.
It is one of those things that looks good on paper, but sucks when actually built.
I give it a year and it will be back they way it should be.
Don't bet on it, city engineer Paul Kaspar has swallowed the Kool-Aid when it comes to anti-vehicular ideas like "traffic calming" (specifically citing flawed studies of narrower lanes), see source. As long as he's in charge WJB will be unusable for the time being.
etmydst said:PS3D said:doubledog said:
WJB is one of the main thoroughfare to downtown Bryan, it cannot stay the way they designed it.
It is one of those things that looks good on paper, but sucks when actually built.
I give it a year and it will be back they way it should be.
Don't bet on it, city engineer Paul Kaspar has swallowed the Kool-Aid when it comes to anti-vehicular ideas like "traffic calming" (specifically citing flawed studies of narrower lanes), see source. As long as he's in charge WJB will be unusable for the time being.
Are you a licensed engineer?
etmydst said:PS3D said:doubledog said:
WJB is one of the main thoroughfare to downtown Bryan, it cannot stay the way they designed it.
It is one of those things that looks good on paper, but sucks when actually built.
I give it a year and it will be back they way it should be.
Don't bet on it, city engineer Paul Kaspar has swallowed the Kool-Aid when it comes to anti-vehicular ideas like "traffic calming" (specifically citing flawed studies of narrower lanes), see source. As long as he's in charge WJB will be unusable for the time being.
Are you a licensed engineer? If not, you're attempting to practice engineering with the statements you are making without the expertise to do so.
It's fine to have an opinion but the misleading statements are problematic. Simply put, you have no idea what you're talking about.
As as far as your disparaging remarks about the city engineer, its clear you have no idea what guides a roadway project. I suspect the public that gave their opinions about the project wanted the cars to actually drive the speed limit in front of their houses and the park. If so, that would lead to using accepted design standards design to achieve those goals. Traffic calming does work. I've driven WJB at the speed limit and slowed down enough to stay in my lane through the roundabout, and it worked just fine. Its okay for you to not like the design, but your comments are uniformed and over the line.
By the time this is all said and done it will be well under 35. The problem is it's a solution to an invented problem. Speed limits are designed to be put in place for the road around them (like how you wouldn't take a sharp 90 degree curve at 60 mph). Even small towns could have faster limits but that's how they make their money. Arbitrarily having a 35 mph speed limit then crippling the road to match is, at best, cart-before-the-horse type thinking.Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
Proof that narrower lanes don't lead to drivers typically reducing their speed?
PS3D said:By the time this is all said and done it will be well under 35. The problem is it's a solution to an invented problem. Speed limits are designed to be put in place for the road around them (like how you wouldn't take a sharp 90 degree curve at 60 mph). Even small towns could have faster limits but that's how they make their money. Arbitrarily having a 35 mph speed limit then crippling the road to match is, at best, cart-before-the-horse type thinking.Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
Proof that narrower lanes don't lead to drivers typically reducing their speed?
Aggie_Boomin 21 said:Not at all what I asked. You claimed reducing lane width doesn't cause traffic to adjust and slow down, I was curious to see your source on this as this affects my job.PS3D said:By the time this is all said and done it will be well under 35. The problem is it's a solution to an invented problem. Speed limits are designed to be put in place for the road around them (like how you wouldn't take a sharp 90 degree curve at 60 mph). Even small towns could have faster limits but that's how they make their money. Arbitrarily having a 35 mph speed limit then crippling the road to match is, at best, cart-before-the-horse type thinking.Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
Proof that narrower lanes don't lead to drivers typically reducing their speed?
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city engineer Paul Kaspar has swallowed the Kool-Aid when it comes to anti-vehicular ideas like "traffic calming" (specifically citing flawed studies of narrower lanes)
Traffic calming is one of those authoritarian terms designed to disguise the intent, kind of like Democratic Republic of Germany which was actually communist, not democratic or a republic.Stucco said:
Traffic calming "works." Speed bumps "work" too. It just isn't ideal to spend a bunch of money to ultimately reduce the throughput of a road.
Roundabouts work only when there's hardly any traffic. The ones at Arrington work fine because it's not a busy road. If you have 3-4 cars trying to enter you're going to slam on the brakes anyway.woodiewood said:
I love them all as anything that allows me to not have to stop at an intersection is great. If people would learn how to manage a roundabout, they would also love them.
Yep. I supect you could have put a s...load of speed bumps on WJB for 1/10,000th the cost of the road upgrade cost if that was the purpose of all the work.Stucco said:
Traffic calming "works." Speed bumps "work" too. It just isn't ideal to spend a bunch of money to ultimately reduce the throughput of a road.
I go through three to four roundabouts in BCS multiple times a week and never have an issues. Yes, I do have to slow down, some people also stop at four-way stop sign intersections.PS3D said:Roundabouts work only when there's hardly any traffic. The ones at Arrington work fine because it's not a busy road. If you have 3-4 cars trying to enter you're going to slam on the brakes anyway.woodiewood said:
I love them all as anything that allows me to not have to stop at an intersection is great. If people would learn how to manage a roundabout, they would also love them.
You can play around with this simple traffic simulator. Low traffic means no one has to stop, just slow down a bit. Increase that and no one's having a good time.
